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kparam77
post Sep 5 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(umapathy @ Sep 4 2012, 07:07 PM)
Thanks for the input.

What  is the minimum commitment for PRS monthly? In this case ING which already started.

Thanks
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get this month personal money, well explained abt PRS.


Added on September 5, 2012, 3:53 pm
QUOTE(kparam77 @ Sep 5 2012, 03:50 PM)
get this month personal money, well explained abt PRS.
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SHARING ONLY.



Who is PPA? - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/about/background/



FAQs on PRS... http://www.ppa.my/index.php/how-prs-works/faqs-on-prs/



Role of the SC in regulating PPA - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/how-prs-works/...regulating-ppa/



Getting advice - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/how-prs-works/getting-advice/



Who are PRS Providers - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/providers-and-...-prs-providers/



Benefits of PRS - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/how-prs-works/benefits-of-prs/



Tax incentives - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/how-prs-works/tax-incentives/



Joining PRS - http://www.ppa.my/index.php/how-prs-works/joining-prs/

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kparam77
post Dec 7 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 6 2012, 10:22 PM)
ok, i got the breakdown liao.
taking growth fund as an example.

hwang is charging 0 entry fees, 0 exit fees, management fees of 1.8% + trustee fees of 0.4%; PPA is taking another 0.4% as management fees; transfer fees at rm50 per transaction to other providers

PB is charging 3% upfront fees (entry fees), 0 exit fees, management fees of 1.5%, trustee fees of 0.6%; PPA is taking another 0.4% as management fees; transfer fees at rm25 per transaction to other providers

so basically it boils down to fund performance as the difference is quite minor.
any advice on which of these perform better historically?

fyi, cimb is at management fees of 1.4% + trustee fees of 0.4%. transfer at rm75.

cheers!
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go for default option. u can avoid any manual transfer in future. or, choose which fund is match with ur risk tolerance. just stick with the fund until u retire.

market always volitile,u just need to ride with market. regular contribution is better way compare with lump sump, if u not sure abt market directions.

historically?

PRS is new to market, so, no past record. but basicaly, its a UT. so, read the relevant documents, the asset allocation, local, oversea. and u can compare similar pure UT funds in the market. u can get some clear picture.

get a PRS consultant to brief/guides you.

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kparam77
post Dec 7 2012, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(turbopips @ Dec 7 2012, 02:39 PM)
i spoke to a PRS agent and apparently i was encouraged to buy their unit trust instead. In fact i was told that it is the government that put a mandatory for these banks to set up this PRS and they had no choice but to accept the government offer.

Also the fund size according to the agent will be very small, whereby only higher income tax payers will buy and max will only be RM3k.
Imagine in reality who and how many ppl in Malaysia really pay tax? This times RM3k/year and then divided into 8 funds approved by government.
Therefore the PRS fund size is very small for each bank and also no historical proven record.

I really into this PRS as it give 26% returns every year (via income tax). on the other hand, i am worried that with PRS given at lowest priority among the other unit trust by the 8 banks, the capability of fund managers assigned by the bank may not generate any growth of money.

Any thoughts?
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both pure UT and PRS(UT as well) has pros and cons respectively. u need to understand it first. the most important how much risk u willing to take. PRS is not only for tax payers. tax reliaef only for 10 yrs.

and there are many ppls dont hv epf, so, they will may make use this scheme with lower SC.

if the stament is correct...government that put a mandatory....... should thanks for it, becasue, what they done is good job.
1. understand abt saving is important for malaysian.
2. understand tht EPF money is not enuf for retirment,


its not abt the fund size.........., smaller size easy to manage than bigger size. u can ask any FM. sure PRS FM are experience one. do you think, the management will assign fresh FM. even the PRS agent need hv at least 3 yrs experiance as UT agent.

my tought only.


kparam77
post Dec 10 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Dec 10 2012, 04:24 PM)
It is a shame the PRS doesnt count in mutual gold status... It is similiar to UT EPF investment, they should make it the same to gain mutual gold status. Just my thought..
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its a beginning only, who knows in the future, entitle pulak.
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post Dec 20 2012, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Dec 20 2012, 03:44 PM)
let's just all agree on the following, shall we?
1. if all things being equal, hwang beats PM in the short term while PM wins in the long term
2. everything else doesn't matter as spreadsheet have proven that the differences is MARGINAL and ultimately it is the fund performances that matter.

good discussion you all. met some new friends here. cheers!


Added on December 20, 2012, 3:47 pm

1stly, you are not a syt
2ndly, you do not offer PM which i'm keen to take

so sorry abang bkwu, both product and wow factor also does not fulfill. my $$ cannot go to you.  cry.gif
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if u still love PM, maybe i can help u. but NO empty promise here.... its all DEPEND.......... HOW THE FUND PERFORM.

if u want the tax relief for 2012, sign up now with rm3k. or else, u can do DDI instead of lump sump rm3k. or if u need better entry for 3k lump sum, better wait for GE.

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post Dec 21 2012, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Dec 21 2012, 11:07 AM)
Called HwangIM, the Head of Branch suggested to invest in their conservative funds cos market is a bit peak"ish" and to switch when market corrected. Most Asian stockmarkets are at their tops except China.
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this is wat i try to tell in post Post #175..... wait for better time for better entry.

 

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