because FFP will ensure the rich remain rich and the poor remain poor. No more cinderella story like whats happening with man city and chelsea.

if a poor club become good one season, they will be raided by the rich club and they have to sell.

i on the other hand think chelsea's win was incredible considering the circumstances...

i think even abramovic must be pinching himself and ask..what did we just win again?...really?

I also feel the same when i read new revelations how the US actually knew but hushed up soviet's accountability for the katyn masacre.

JFT 20k.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Sep 12 2012, 11:26 PM

no la. i sincerely thinks the similarity between Katyn and Hillsborough is uncanny.

The new evidence about Roosevelt cover up even came on the same day as the publication of the report by the Hillsborough Independent Panel.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19552745

i always felt a deep sorrow when people from around the world unjustiably lost their lives. As with family members of Hillsboro, family members of Katyn's POW must have felt a deep sence of relief when Soviet admit to their wrong doing after blaming the Nazis for five decades.

But with this new evidence, justice will not prevails for Jerzey Dudek and co until Barrack Obama aplologize on behalf of the US and maybe David Cameron also should follow suit.

JFT 20k.

i expect the families to start million pound damage claim against the goverment.

quite the same story with me two... only sub 2004 for 97/98. and "strange looking dude with reddish hair launch the ball in with a long throw." with Alessandro del Piero. And of course Liverpool with Juventus.

CM2 97/98 was the best ever. I go from knowing nothing about football to memorizing the first eleven for all the team league in just one semester break.

I took Leyton Orient BTW. Becase the name sounds cool.

i think both players should be sent off....

+1

i dont really blame players in this situation. they did not intentionally break the rules. i despise players who intentionally pull players's shirt more.



but what they did are dangerous and both should be red carded.



really though call for hasley to make.

This post has been edited by aressandro10: Sep 24 2012, 01:07 AM

both of the players are at fault. the ref have every right to send both of them off.. i think hasley is wrong to let Evans stay on the field but Shelvey clearly cannot complain about his card.

the thing is despite the relegation position, Liverpool really are playing good football this season.


the bubble of loserness will burst sooner or later. And when that happen, liverpool will slingshot forward as long as poeple dont give up beforehand.

I think shelvey red card is because he stud touched evans leg. Isnt that kinda thing almost killed rooney thw last time.

Btw there is no neutral place here in this lounge so if people want to talk about liverpool positively or negatively this should be the place.

The idea is if you cannot gurantee you opponents safety while lunging into the tackle ( there are alot of hard tackles done safely using correct technique ), than you should pull out of it. Of course, granted, that there are very limited opportunity for that judgement process to happen being Shelvey in a Liverpool vs Man United match at Anfield.

BUt still, never mind if the blades can cut an artery or something, Shelvey's leg was visually in full momentum in perpinducular to Evan's shin bone. if he cannot control his momentum any further, not much more force needed to break those bone. Football mut not only be save, but it must also appear to be save as well. Thats the referee job and Selvey left the referee no choice...

Saying that, Evan's lunge was equally dangerous as well. Both should be red carded IMO. The ref took time to judge the situation carefully and made the correct call on Shelvey but dissapointingly choked on Evans.

Good one. That is actually standard SOP everywhere really.