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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V30, with <3s

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post Sep 7 2012, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 7 2012, 01:00 PM)
have u try to monitor ur afr when ur car is running above 3k???where the car will be running in close loop???
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No no no I mean I can't get the actual measured AFR reading from the scanner. I can only see the commanded AFR.
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post Sep 7 2012, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 7 2012, 01:21 PM)
i tot ur scanner is showing the reading???sumth like 12-15??

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I thought so too, but it is only showing the figure that the ECU is trying to maintain (14.71).

It is not showing the figure of the actual AFR from the sensor.

So what I see is

AFR (commanded) = 14.71
AFR (measured) = no data

So far the AFR© does not change while driving. I'll try again later.

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post Sep 7 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 7 2012, 01:32 PM)
coz i couldnt find ur posted image not long ago,lol..now i understand.....maybe ur scanner is confused,hahahaha,not so smart like a dyno machine.....ur scanner could be saying dat when the car is warming up,open loop,intake air is not metered and is on open loop,then once the car already moving,finished warming up,closed loop ad,then o2 sensors kicks in and have reading,but til u whack above 3k,it again running open loop,so ur scanner will like ah~~~~i am confused,4get it la,i cannot brain it,juz make it afr reading when the car is running close loop la, rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif

p/s:now after seeing ur image,yea,it oni can shows the afr when ur car is in closed loop,but not open loop,hehehehe
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Lolololol

All I wanted to know is whether injectors cutoff when engine braking tongue.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Sep 7 2012, 03:18 PM)
Yesterday managed to borrow OBD2 wifi from my colleague and test it in Saga FLX SE. Here's a screen shot of vacuum reading during normal working temperature (properly warm-up).

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Does this means my car makan fuel?
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Ayam using Torque Pro.

Negative pressure = vacuum, you can still read vacuum with that gauge it will make you look even gangnam laugh.gif It should be the same gauge, but you might need to set it up properly.
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post Sep 7 2012, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Sep 7 2012, 04:53 PM)
Can you explain more what do you mean by set it up properly??
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Set up the units, max and minimum figure etc. Sorry never used that app before so dont have any step by step guide...
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post Sep 7 2012, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 7 2012, 04:57 PM)
ohhh..... didnt ask them whn can be done ar?
tht gauge cannot be use to measure vacuum, if not mistaken thts only show boost pressure for force induction vehicle...  cool2.gif
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You can by reading the PSI figure at the bottom (-9.2) and knows what it means in terms of vacuum pressure. But if you only look at the gauge of course kenot la difficult la laugh.gif

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post Sep 7 2012, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 7 2012, 05:01 PM)
i thought u all talking about the gauge mar...lolz
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Most of my gauges are digital numerical display also, coz my phone screen is so tiny, trying to look at the needle might make me go blind or accident laugh.gif laugh.gif

But hor, I think a physical vacuum gauge is more macho flex.gif

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post Sep 7 2012, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 7 2012, 05:12 PM)
urs cannot view like this ke? user posted image

haha.. but urs cannot fit real wan... too bad~!
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Kenot wor. Dowan fancy fancy wan, just can see the figures enuff dy.


Added on September 7, 2012, 5:27 pm
QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Sep 7 2012, 05:11 PM)
COnfirmed is bonnet sensor problem coz if i push my bonnet it able to lock by remote but when i lift my hand from the bonnet it will trigger the alarm sad.gif Now using manual door like (like old car how we lock the door)
I stepped 2 time 1st time soft brake (with 1st gear) it not slow down then i free gear lift the brake and brake again but sudden it rush in front rclxub.gif \

Sigh need claim for the brake but call COES they said only week day can claim sigh have to take leave to do it next week
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Press brake will accelerate?? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif If press brake it won't stop I understand la....but press brake it accelerate I first time hear

As for the bonnet, you can temporarily stick a small piece of foam on top of the switch so that it can be pushed down by the bonnet.

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post Sep 7 2012, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Robottoes @ Sep 7 2012, 06:25 PM)
CVT
Hmmm can't be cause been driving the old Perdana some time before switching to Saga
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I dunno how you drive your Perdana, but the Campro CVT does not require the throttle to be press too deep. A light press and you are already on the way. I believe you would tend to press more because the throttle response is laggy, causing you to misunderstood it as not enough throttle

eg. Press throttle -> "VROOOMM" for half a second -> car starts to move. That's where your petrol go.

The Saga CVT is compounded by the fact that from standstill you have to wait for the clutch to close. For example you're holding your footbrake at the traffic light, when it turns green, on an AT car you would straight lift off the brakes and press the throttle; On a CVT, pressing the brakes opens the clutch, similiar to how you would press on the clutch in a manual car if are holding your brakes so that the car don't stall, in a CVT this is automatic. If you straight tekan after lifting off the brakes , the clutch is not closed yet, so you are basically free-revving your engine and burning petrol pointlessly.

The correct way is to lift off the brakes, wait for the car to begin creeping forward, THEN only gently tekan the throttle. It's not as slow as it sounds, you just have to get used to it.

Other than that, when already moving don't constantly keep too much pressure on the throttle. The CVT can happily cruise at 80-90km/h with just small throttle pressure. If need to accelerate, press slightly deeper.

If you don't already realize, driving a CVT is different from driving a AT car. If I drive my sister's Vios as gentle as I drive my FLX, the Vios will gladly roll backwards on a slope. doh.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 06:49 PM)
Dude brows.gif before they cover paint, get those f***er put an extra layer of anti rust 1st lar. Meanwhile, go get a huge layer of dampening material from cushion shop, faster go stuck all over the fender lar brows.gif Next time you have no more sound from the front left side of the car whistling.gif

FYI, 10mm dampening sheet only cost 28 bucks / square meter icon_idea.gif
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Lol !!

Next time when driving, left ear hear "MMMMmmmm", right ear hear "RROOOAOAARRRRRR" laugh.gif

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post Sep 7 2012, 06:56 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 06:54 PM)
By the way, your neighbour looks like go langgar toll booth  doh.gif
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I think that car flipped on to it's side or turtled hmm.gif The A-pillar looks bent.
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post Sep 7 2012, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 7 2012, 07:03 PM)
but just now i go drive no sound also... lols
the car flipped + turtled... LOL !
yea... windscreen also pecah... worst than mine...
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Ape cerita saga turtle tu?
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post Sep 7 2012, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 7 2012, 07:13 PM)
avoid bang one car but still bang the back side end there then flipped... 3 rolls but owner and passenger alive...
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Quite tough lolz

Luckily not corner til turtle, else we gaga owners will join the turtle brotherhood. Still can fix ah? flex.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Sep 7 2012, 10:00 PM)
Hai.. Too bz so lazy to read back from unknown page..

YEAHHHHH no more krek krek sound  thumbup.gif so nice la CoSE.. This is culprit..
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Engine mounting hmm.gif Replace under warranty?

But congrats thumbup.gif

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post Sep 7 2012, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Sep 7 2012, 09:28 PM)
From this angle looks nasty laugh.gif I tot he langgar the boom gate
Saman me for driving 80 kah? Can't even catch up with a white smoked 130Y ka?
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Saman you for holding phone while driving whistling.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(vampirewong @ Sep 7 2012, 05:46 PM)
Where is the bonnet switch located?
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It is tragic indeed what happened to that black Gaga, nonetheless we must learn to make something good out of something terrible. In this case, it help educate vampirewong as to the exact location of the bonnet switch flex.gif


Added on September 7, 2012, 10:15 pm
QUOTE(asrul @ Sep 7 2012, 10:11 PM)
Why front left rim..On the outer side, got oily therw?

Might be brake bocor?
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Send to SC to check. No matter we answer yes or no, you still need to visit SC, so better get them to check properly.

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post Sep 7 2012, 10:22 PM

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Speaking of the alarm's bonnet switch, I remember when Calvin_kenni came to 3Max factory to install FSB/RSB.

He park his car in front of the factory, then V12k ask him to pop the hood to install FS. He pull the lever inside the car, we open his hood, he came out and close the driver door.....then proceeded to press the remote to lock the door laugh.gif laugh.gif

beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep beep thumbup.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:23 PM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Sep 7 2012, 10:20 PM)
Btw he said it was gear box mounting..
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Yep, that side holds the gearbox. There are 4 of them holding the engine+gearbox assembly.
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:25 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 7 2012, 10:24 PM)
dunno yet... if wan can plan... but i think mostly sri petaling will be the next TT spot... smile.gif
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When?
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 7 2012, 10:25 PM)
see majority lor... i can help plan... but still waiting my car to be done la... next week ?
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Jom cheers.gif


Added on September 7, 2012, 10:28 pm
QUOTE(asrul @ Sep 7 2012, 10:27 PM)
Any sc will do right? I mean proton sc.
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Yep.

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