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 PROTON SAGA BLM, FL, FLX CLUB V30, with <3s

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post Sep 6 2012, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 6 2012, 05:43 PM)
dunno lar.. next week go check lar...

dares been buttseck by fubar

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That's too thin to be me. Probably GPMM hmm.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 6 2012, 06:16 PM)
wat converter? next week only can check...
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Torque konverter
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post Sep 6 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(Robottoes @ Sep 6 2012, 06:47 PM)
Hey my dad just traded in a Perdana V6 for this 1.3 FLX exec like 2 months ago and i've noticed that the Saga consumes WAAYY TOO much petrol since the first week itself ( 10+L / 100km )

Is it normal or does the car have any problems in regards to fuel consumption? The old Perdana infact saves way more fuel compared to this car
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How much KM has it run? This is not normal FC for the FLX exec.


Added on September 6, 2012, 7:56 pm
QUOTE(redshark_999 @ Sep 6 2012, 07:41 PM)
omg! jz checked tire pressure jz now, 45 45 for front and 34 34 for back and have been running at least 1000km on it -.-"

this is gonna burn the thread faster rite? thx god no tire burst or whatsoever-.-
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Well at least now you know. unsure.gif

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post Sep 6 2012, 08:16 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 6 2012, 08:11 PM)
Overinflation is at least better than underinflation. Overinflation doesn't eat up the thread faster, just uneven. Speaking about driving risk, underinflation is dangerous.

Btw, tyre pressure is to be measured when tyre is cool. i.e. Measure on the morning after you stopped the car for the entire night. A driven car will raise the tyre pressure significantly when measured.
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Overinflation also makes the tire more prone to swelling if you happen to hit a pothole or a bump.
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post Sep 6 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(r3apers @ Sep 6 2012, 09:26 PM)
hmm.gif  hmm.gif  had juz driving with my gaga for about 10-15 min around my house... auto shift and mannual shift no problem liao, power also back to normal... doh.gif  doh.gif

next week really need to ask CoSe to check thoroughly.... shakehead.gif
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I just remembered a member at the Preve thread who's wife's BLM had a problem similiar to yours, D blinking and no power.

In the end replace TCU under warranty.
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post Sep 6 2012, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(kenjilew @ Sep 6 2012, 09:37 PM)
TCU = traction control unit ? i become noob adi...
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Transmission Control Unit.

ECU control Engine
TCU control gearbox....
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post Sep 6 2012, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(eqmal197 @ Sep 6 2012, 09:58 PM)
question to flx se driver

do our variant have traction control?  hmm.gif
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No


Added on September 6, 2012, 10:02 pmWhich reminds me of my visit to the Mazda showroom.

I ask the SA if the M2 ade ESC or TC, he jawab me "Got ABS sure got ESC and TC wan!! those cars that advertise ABS but didn't advertise ESC is because their ESC cannot be turned on and off!!"


I so happy coz according to his explanation, my Gaga also have ESC and TC lor thumbup.gif

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post Sep 6 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(V12Kompressor @ Sep 6 2012, 10:04 PM)
he mistaken it with EBD and BA issit? lolz

but then, BA also not a standard item that comes together with ABS.
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EBD and BA cannot switch off also lololol doh.gif
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post Sep 6 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(SiuYi @ Sep 6 2012, 11:11 PM)
yumi ask me ask u go bedroom nao!
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LOLOLOLOL pwned by wifu ph34r.gif

go bedroom buat ape ya? hmm.gif


Added on September 6, 2012, 11:28 pm
QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 6 2012, 11:19 PM)
Cabut fius brows.gif
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Dan replace with FS brows.gif Firestormed brakes...fuhh

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post Sep 7 2012, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Sep 7 2012, 12:39 AM)
Really sui loh .... accident .. the myveeeeee dented but my front bumper's lari tempat and dunno why i unable to lock my car now (By press door unlock/lock button it will beep 3 times but not lock my door) by pressing the alarm button it will lock my car but with alarm bunyi. Tried to reset but still useless, dunno it is because i installed the ABL sad.gif

Beside have to go complaint the brake  mad.gif ald fully braked but the car move more fast than never brake luckily i pull hand brake fast enuf if not more serious shit (and i'm in free gear position).

The myveeeeeeeeeeee
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Check your front bonnet is properly closed.
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post Sep 7 2012, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(Robottoes @ Sep 6 2012, 11:32 PM)
almost 4000 already, checked for leaks but tak ada
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Forgot to ask. MT or CVT?


Added on September 7, 2012, 1:14 am
QUOTE(garybenjamin @ Sep 7 2012, 12:52 AM)
Checked i open it and closed it again but still cannot lock mayb the front bonnet's sensor there got problem sad.gif
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If you're sure all the other doors+bootlid is closed properly, then probably it is. I don't believe it is related to the ABL though since the ABL module is installed in the boot.

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post Sep 7 2012, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Sep 7 2012, 10:17 AM)
Oic...the OBD2 is plugging in to where or which part?


Added on September 7, 2012, 10:19 amI also want to know what much is it?Is quite interested....
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=113&t=1792872

See got other FLX owners interested, bulk lar.
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 7 2012, 10:24 AM)
how come gajah use leg to buttseck dares instead of using xxxx?  hmm.gif

poisonous tered...  icon_question.gif

hope good news will come here around end of SEP  whistling.gif
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Ming ming is you, why say me whistling.gif I wish I am so skinny whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(GP mad man @ Sep 7 2012, 10:30 AM)
i also hope i m so skinny  cry.gif
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If not you then is that fella whose head can fit into David's wheel well rclxms.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(mieza @ Sep 7 2012, 10:52 AM)
Proton Saga FLX SE only right? I wonder why you all need vacuum gauge.. Speedometer pon susah mau tengok..
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If it works for FLX SE then it should work for FLX. Siape FLX wanna test? Come come TT


Added on September 7, 2012, 11:07 am
QUOTE(lhwj @ Sep 7 2012, 10:50 AM)
I got a third theory. The brakes is powered by engine vacuum right? If you tekan throttle until vacuum gauge points at 0, means there's no vacuum to power your brakes shocking.gif
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The second you lift of throttle vacuum will return ma. Unless you heel toe or press brake with your left foot lar

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post Sep 7 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(Noobdao @ Sep 7 2012, 11:12 AM)

Who want to be white mouse 1st?Btw, ur car is FLX SE right?If I not mistaken....
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Yar

Thats why I ask siape FLX mau cuba lar, since I ady know SE can use
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(iskazulka @ Sep 7 2012, 11:27 AM)
MIEZA.
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Hers is FLX SE, no need to test sleep.gif
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post Sep 7 2012, 11:50 AM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 7 2012, 11:30 AM)
The injector response time is quick enough to start again when the RPM goes a specified ECU threshold.

You can also see someone mentioned: "DFCO was a requirement for all OBD II vehicles. So anything post 1996 should have it."
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2184765

I haven't found Persona's parameter for injection duty cycle from OBD2, but at least I can see the engine entering open loop mode during the fuel cut, suggesting that the ECU does not monitor AFR anymore while rolling down the hill.
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Since getting the OBD scanner, I notice my car goes into open loop in 2 situations - cold start and deceleration (engine braking)

Open loop doesn't mean the ECU is not monitoring AFR, it only means it is ignoring the O2 sensors. It will continue to inject fuel based on the MAF sensor input. This mode is to make sure enough fuel is injected to prevent the engine from running lean.

That's why during cold start it goes into open loop so that more fuel is injected to warm up the engine. Same goes for WOT driving to ensure the engine does no run lean. I assume the same is happening when engine braking, because the ECU needs to inject more fuel to prevent the engine running lean, hence it has to ignore the O2 sensors aka invoking open loop mode.

P/S: OR it could mean it is ignoring the O2 sensors so that it can cut off fuel hmm.gif But all in all going into open loop is not enough to conclude that it has in fact cut of fuel supply.


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post Sep 7 2012, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Sep 7 2012, 11:57 AM)
Means the engine will never running lean during in gear downhill because ECU will inject 'adequate' amount of fuel to prevent it from happen?
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Added on September 7, 2012, 12:06 pmOH shet. I retract part of my statement.

Open loop can also happen when the injectors are shut off.

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post Sep 7 2012, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Sep 7 2012, 12:30 PM)
O2 sensors gives lambda value, which the ECU uses it to monitor AFR. Open loop does not conclude fuel cut, but for fuel cut to be allowed, the ECU needs to enter open loop.
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QUOTE(Mahihi @ Sep 7 2012, 12:32 PM)
ur statement juz now make me blur,it against the things dat i know previously,but now u cancel it off,lol..... icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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Sorry I confuse dy. I always thought AFR is measured via MAF sensor and injector flow rate. I'm curious though, if our cars do monitor the AFR, how come we could not get a measured AFR reading from the scanner?

So is there anyway to ascertain that fuel has in fact been cut? or we need the scangauge as shown in mahihi's video?

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