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myotgo
post Dec 1 2012, 01:29 AM

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QUOTE(minzisme @ Dec 1 2012, 01:19 AM)
wait for my 3dmark result, i installed  310.54 and lets see how ,testing now
yah sure..i'm done tested fps on nfsmw and assasin creed 3 on v306.00..and the result is sad.gif
now i gladly hear that fps can be increasing by updating driver version
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

will test again
please reconfirm what is the current version, so i can make a test
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post Dec 1 2012, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(minzisme @ Dec 1 2012, 01:19 AM)
now i m doing my 3d mark 11 test, for those people having problem  like cant open or install  any  exe  in win8(wermgr, exe)problem , i found the problem  here, this happened  because i open and using 搜狗拼音,since i closed and hide it , everything  is going fine ,google got more detail about this, i spent 2 hour in google to check how to fix this problem, but i still failed to do so, at last , i typed in chinese in 为什么出现wermgr. exe win8,i found that  a lot people which using 搜狗拼音having  the some problem  with  me ,搜狗拼音 is the major  problem  which causing this ~


Added on December 1, 2012, 1:20 am
wait for my 3dmark result, i installed  310.54 and lets see how ,testing now
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Ok, finger cross. If the beta driver from Nvidia work, good news smile.gif

Yeah, most of the time the problem is not with Win8, but program we install that crash it sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 01:29 AM)
yah sure..i'm done tested fps on nfsmw and assasin creed 3 on v306.00..and the result is  sad.gif
now i gladly hear that fps can be increasing by updating driver version
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

will test again
please reconfirm what is the current version, so i can make a test
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The SLI scalling is very much depend on how well the drivers optimization. If SLI for GT650M is supported by Nvidia site, always use the latest drivers ie 310.64.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win8...eta-driver.html

Pls wait for 3DMark11 from minzisme to verify the 310.54 drivers compatibility.

Do keep your results with default 306 drivers for comparision.

QUOTE(Amal @ Dec 1 2012, 01:02 AM)
You can still upgrade(SSD, RAM, etc) the Y500 in the future.
But you can't do anything to improve the gaming performance on the Y580. Except by overclocking.

Just have to wait for more review on the gaming performance and gaming stability of the GT650M SLI.
Whether the improvement over the GTX660M is worth it or not.
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IMO, its quite worth it for Y500 with
- swappable ultrabay with different options to suit user needs, ie. ODD, HDD, fans, bluray, even additional battery in future if there are demand.
- swap it with additional battery and bring 120W psu(optional) when you needs mobility. swap with GT650M and use 170W psu when you needs extra horse power at home.
- better design/build & bling-bling Red backlit keyboard
- better cooling system & easy maintenance

This post has been edited by ytlay: Dec 1 2012, 02:00 AM
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post Dec 1 2012, 02:00 AM

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QUOTE(ytlay @ Dec 1 2012, 01:47 AM)
The SLI scalling is very much depend on how well the drivers optimization. If SLI for GT650M is supported by Nvidia site, always use the latest drivers ie 310.64.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win8...eta-driver.html

Pls wait for 3DMark11 from minzisme to verify the 310.54 drivers compatibility.

Do keep your results with default 306 drivers for comparision.
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hmn the result is p3569 after installed 310.54
and this is my driver detail check from dxdiag-display
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i dun know why although i haf ardy installed latest driver yesterday ,but the driver version date is still on 21 august? ??or any way to check graphic driver detail again?
http://driverdl.lenovo.com.cn/lenovo/Drive..._NV_VGA_x64.exe

this is the latest lenovo driver for gt650m sli, i had done installed, but dun have any game for testing, so i need someone try i


Added on December 1, 2012, 2:27 am
QUOTE(ytlay @ Dec 1 2012, 01:47 AM)
The SLI scalling is very much depend on how well the drivers optimization. If SLI for GT650M is supported by Nvidia site, always use the latest drivers ie 310.64.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/notebook-win8...eta-driver.html

Pls wait for 3DMark11 from minzisme to verify the 310.54 drivers compatibility.

Do keep your results with default 306 drivers for comparision.
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IMO, its quite worth it for Y500 with
- swappable ultrabay with different options to suit user needs, ie. ODD, HDD, fans, bluray, even additional battery in future if there are demand.
- swap it with additional battery and bring 120W psu(optional) when you needs mobility. swap with GT650M and use 170W psu when you needs extra horse power at home.
- better design/build & bling-bling Red backlit keyboard
- better cooling system & easy maintenance
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and also according to Chinese forum, nvdia official driver also can be use in y500,but just currently no have any latest driver for sli win8 ,but there is latest driver for y500 win7 released 29 November
http://ideapad.it168.com/forum.php?mod=vie...9053&mobile=yes

This post has been edited by minzisme: Dec 1 2012, 02:44 AM
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post Dec 1 2012, 06:31 AM

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QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 01:29 AM)
yah sure..i'm done tested fps on nfsmw and assasin creed 3 on v306.00..and the result is  sad.gif
now i gladly hear that fps can be increasing by updating driver version
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

will test again
please reconfirm what is the current version, so i can make a test
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the current available version from lenovo official wetsite is here
http://driverdl.lenovo.com.cn/le ... Win8_NV_VGA_x64.exe
but it is also 306.00
nsfmw ,assasin creed 3 should get around 30-40 fps in gt650m sli(ultra+1920*1080}
and dun forget to check whether you enable ur sli or not
propeties -nvdia control-set sli and physx
and you will get this
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of course,if after doing all this things,but u re still having lower fps ,you can try to dowload 310.54 to see whether it work or not,hopefully yes~
i have to make myself clear,i always think that driver from lenovo is only to make sure that our system can recognize the gt650m sli,but we still have to keep our driver up to date
think about it, need for speed most wanted released in 30 oct 2012,assasins creed 3 released in 23 november
but the driver we are using which is 306.00 ,was released on august,another way to say that,our driver are too old for those new games.
of course ,this is only what i think ,better wait for confirmation from lenovo


Added on December 1, 2012, 7:27 am
QUOTE(minzisme @ Dec 1 2012, 06:31 AM)
the current available version from lenovo malaysia official wetsite is here
http://support.lenovo.com/en_MY/downloads/default.page?
click the video path ,and you can see Nvidia Video Driver (SLI, Optimus)
1fvl13ww.exe in 233mb,this should be the latest
nsfmw ,assasin creed 3 should get around 30-40 fps in gt650m sli(ultra+1920*1080}
and dun forget to check whether you enable ur sli or not
propeties -nvdia control-set sli and physx
and you will get this
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of course,if after doing all this things,but u re still having lower fps ,you can try to dowload 310.54 to see whether it work or not,hopefully yes~
i have to make myself clear,i always  think that driver from lenovo is only to make sure that our system can recognize the gt650m sli,but we still have to keep our driver up to date
think about it, need for speed most wanted released in 30 oct 2012,assasins creed 3 released in 23 november
but the driver we are using which is 306.00 ,was released on august,another way to say that,our driver are too old for those new games.
of course ,this is only what i think ,better wait for confirmation from lenovo
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post Dec 1 2012, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(ytlay @ Dec 1 2012, 01:47 AM)
+1  thumbup.gif
IMO, its quite worth it for Y500 with
- swappable ultrabay with different options to suit user needs, ie. ODD, HDD, fans, bluray, even additional battery in future if there are demand.
- swap it with additional battery and bring 120W psu(optional) when you needs mobility. swap with GT650M and use 170W psu when you needs extra horse power at home.
- better design/build & bling-bling Red backlit keyboard
- better cooling system & easy maintenance
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Yup, they should introduce additional ultrabay battery in the future like what the fujitsu offers. So, it should be possible to implement.

http://www.fujitsu.com/hk/services/computi...h792/specs.html

Optional bay for Fujitsu SH792:
-Bay Projector
-Bay Battery, 3-cell Li-ion 28Wh, up to 12hrs10mins1 battery life (Standard + Bay Batteries)
-Blu-ray writable drive
-Dual Layer DVD Super Multi writer
-2nd HDD Fitting Kit (w/o SATA HDD)
-Weight Saver

Some more the GT650M fitted in the Y500 is the GDDR5 version.
So, it differ with the GTX660M slightly in core clock(735MHz vs 835MHz) and memory clock(1000MHz vs 1250MHz), of which can easily be ocable.
So if you have trouble with SLI on some games, just insert an ultrabay fan for a better cooling, and OC the GPU to a GTX660M clock, then done, you have an almost identical setup to a Y580, but with better cooling on the system compared to the Y580.
Also, no more worrying on the HDD temp like the brother Y580 is having. smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(nexus2238 @ Nov 30 2012, 11:23 PM)
I love the Y500 design. But you are spending RM800 more.
Suppose you get the Y580. What you can do with RM800:
buy a SSD and swap with HDD, buy a caddy for the HDD and swap with ODD, buy more RAM, upgrade warranty to 3 year on site, buy a cooling pad.
You get a machine that lose out in raw GPU power, less vow factor.
You get a machine that boot faster, run apps much snappier, with better warranty support, and never need to deal with SLI.
Not a bad trade-off. My hands is getting itchy, but Y500 is not a blow out winner over Y580.

And no, to get the SLI working, both GPU must be same model. This is as good as it get. You will not be able to get a "better" ultrabay GPU next time.
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Yep that is the problem, its RM800 more doh.gif but then again what we get here so far in msia is the SLI version highest spec version, I saw a black friday sales last week for Y500 single GPU FHD at around 799USD if not mistaken, thats the same price range with Y580!

So here im hoping we will get the single GPU version of Y500. 660GTX to 650M is not a bad tradeoff, especially u know u can always upgrade it sometimes in the future icon_idea.gif 1 year from now that external 650GT should be in lelong price hehehe. (or simply, order from outside the country. its an ultrabay after all)

I thot this trend also happened with Y580, where they release full spec first for Msia 2 months ago, then slowly we have spec cut here and there to minimize the cost... so im waitin for next month i guess blush.gif
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Wow!!!

Looking at the spec, Y500 possibility is quite limitless.

But I'm happy with my Y580. Likes simplicity. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 1 2012, 12:15 PM

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is it 60 fps is maximum fps value that we can get while playing games?
n what is the minimum fps to run games smoothly?
anyone can clarify this hmm.gif

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post Dec 1 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 12:15 PM)
is it 60 fps is maximum fps we can get while playing games?
n what is the minimum fps to run games smoothly?
anyone can clarify this
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for me, 60 the best,40~45 FPS or more are very good, 30 is playable ,20-30 accepatbale,below 20 =dun try it..u will get dizzy because of that
btw,how many fps u having in need for speed and assasin creed 3?did u try dowload the 310.54 XD


Added on December 1, 2012, 12:40 pm
QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 12:15 PM)
is it 60 fps is maximum fps value that we can get while playing games?
n what is the minimum fps to run games smoothly?
anyone can clarify this hmm.gif
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i5+single gpu gt650m in need for speed
http://ideapad.zol.com.cn/60/160_593451.html
they have 45-60 in ultra setting
dual gpu ,i7 should be better even in FHD

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QUOTE(minzisme @ Dec 1 2012, 12:37 PM)
i5+single gpu gt650m in need for speed
http://ideapad.zol.com.cn/60/160_593451.html
they have 45-60 in ultra setting
dual gpu ,i7 should be better even in FHD
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Those screenshot taken outside the city. hmm.gif

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post Dec 1 2012, 01:57 PM

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driver version is still 306.00,seem like i failed to upgrade to 310.54 via 驱动精灵
will try to dowload it later on

and also according to this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0iigIg-Lqd0
assasin creed 3 in ultra setting in single gt650m ,full hd1080p ,get around 27-45 fps
look like having more fps then y500 dual gt650m graphic card,,lolz,driver problem?hopefully。。。
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post Dec 1 2012, 03:29 PM

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i'm done tested nfsmw , assasin creed 3, fifA 13
set up in all high setting and full hd resolution 1920 x 1080
this is what i get during running a game

gt650 sli
driver version 310.64

nfsmw : 19-21fps
assasin creed 3 : 35-42fps
fifa 13 : 60fps

but i encouter a problem as
-weaak wifi signal strength
-when open cpuz or hwmonitor my touchpad freeze then i restarted the comp then touchpad ok back
-gpuz sometimes freeze i had to force restart comp
-now after installed nvidia v310.64, i can't adjust brightness..

i never installed any driver yet on lenovo sites
do i need to install all the driver since i checked on driver manager my driver are all up to date.

This post has been edited by myotgo: Dec 1 2012, 04:18 PM
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BTW have u all modified the nvidia inf file to make the y500 can install the latest nvidia driver?
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QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 03:29 PM)
i'm done tested nfsmw , assasin creed 3, fifA 13
set up in all high setting and full hd resolution 1920 x 1080
this is what i get during running a game
driver version 310.64
nfsmw : 19-21fps
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Was this in SLI or not?
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QUOTE(CidBunansa @ Dec 1 2012, 04:14 PM)
Was this in SLI or not?
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Unfortunately, NFS Most Wanted does not support SLI as yet.

U can always refer to for games supported by SLI.

SLI-supported Games
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post Dec 1 2012, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 03:29 PM)
i'm done tested nfsmw , assasin creed 3, fifA 13
set up in all high setting and full hd resolution 1920 x 1080
this is what i get during running a game

gt650 sli
driver version 310.64

nfsmw : 19-21fps
assasin creed 3 : 35-42fps
fifa 13 : 60fps

but i encouter a problem as
-weaak wifi signal strength
-when open cpuz or hwmonitor my touchpad freeze then i restarted the comp then touchpad ok back
-gpuz sometimes freeze i had to force restart comp
-now after installed nvidia v310.64, i can't adjust brightness..

i never installed any driver yet on lenovo sites
do i need to install all the driver since i checked on driver manager my driver are all up to date.
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seem like you re having good fps in assasins 3 and fifa,nfsmw also improved by few fps
the reason why the nfsmw having such a low fps is because it havent support by sli tecnology
so the gt650m sli should be fine in driver 310.64
so will you said that 310.64 is better then 306.00?hopefully yes..
you can always upgrade ur others drivers since the system remind you to do so
my driver manager also remind me about that
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can i see your dxdiag display detail shown in pic below
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my graphic card driver version is 9.18.13.600 which same as the official released driver for sli(link shown below)
http://support.lenovo.com/en_MY/downloads/...?DocID=DS032574
and this is my nvdia control panel system information
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it is still 306.00 ,seem like i failed to upgrade to 310.64 yesterday=.=
btw,if you having big issue in 310.64 on future,always try to reinstall this driver http://support.lenovo.com/en_MY/downloads/...?DocID=DS032574


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1)What are the caveats of having the SLI??

I'm sorry for seeming ignorant but I've read thru this post and I know there's a problem but I cant seem to pinpoint it somehow.. icon_question.gif

2)Already kinda made up my mind to get this beastly machine next week so I was wondering if I should get it from jayacom or devour? Any kind person mind linking his profile here? blush.gif


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post Dec 2 2012, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(CidBunansa @ Dec 1 2012, 04:14 PM)
Was this in SLI or not?
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http://answers.ea.com/t5/Need-for-Speed-Mo...p/153748/page/5
there is a sli problem issue in nfsmw, as you can see from the link, gtx680m *3and gtx 690*2 are having only 30fps, but single gpu run around 60,so i m sure that single gt650m will run better then dual gt650m in nfsmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cubH1DmGxdU...be_gdata_player
nfsmw in gt650m high setting +1080p,25-30 fps, more then dual 650


Added on December 2, 2012, 12:22 am
QUOTE(myotgo @ Dec 1 2012, 03:29 PM)
i'm done tested nfsmw , assasin creed 3, fifA 13
set up in all high setting and full hd resolution 1920 x 1080
this is what i get during running a game

gt650 sli
driver version 310.64

nfsmw : 19-21fps
assasin creed 3 : 35-42fps
fifa 13 : 60fps

but i encouter a problem as
-weaak wifi signal strength
-when open cpuz or hwmonitor my touchpad freeze then i restarted the comp then touchpad ok back
-gpuz sometimes freeze i had to force restart comp
-now after installed nvidia v310.64, i can't adjust brightness..

i never installed any driver yet on lenovo sites
do i need to install all the driver since i checked on driver manager my driver are all up to date.
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bro, unfortunately, the 3 game you tested are not supported by sli yet, nfsnw will get low bad fps if you run it in sli according to here
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Need-for-Speed-Mo...p/153748/page/5
so gt650m single will run better then dual gt650 in this game
the fps u are having in assasins creed 3 should be in only single gt650m,it didn't use ur second graphic card as performance
and also max fps for fifa 13 is 60 only
you can test on some sli supported game such as crysis 2,battlefield 3,cod 9


Added on December 2, 2012, 1:27 am
QUOTE(minzisme @ Dec 2 2012, 12:14 AM)
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Need-for-Speed-Mo...p/153748/page/5
there is a sli problem issue  in nfsmw, as you can see from  the link, gtx680m *3and gtx 690*2 are having  only 30fps, but single  gpu run around 60,so i m sure that single gt650m will run better then dual gt650m in nfsmw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cubH1DmGxdU...be_gdata_player
nfsmw in gt650m high  setting +1080p,25-30 fps, more then dual 650


Added on December 2, 2012, 12:22 am
bro, unfortunately, the 3 game  you tested  are not supported by sli yet, nfsnw will get low bad fps if you run it in sli  according  to here 
http://answers.ea.com/t5/Need-for-Speed-Mo...p/153748/page/5
so gt650m single will run better  then dual gt650 in this  game
the fps u are having  in assasins  creed 3 should  be good enought in sli
because  there is also have sli problem  issue in assasin creed 3,fps will drop by 2-5 in sli compare  to single  gpu according  to here
http://www.overclock.net/t/1331728/560ti-s...sassins-creed-3
and also max fps for fifa 13 is 60 only
you can test on some sli supported game such as crysis 2,battlefield 3,cod 9
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QUOTE(cuteyuzikid @ Dec 1 2012, 05:28 PM)
1)What are the caveats of having the SLI??

I'm sorry for seeming ignorant but I've read thru this post and I know there's a problem but I cant seem to pinpoint it somehow..  icon_question.gif

2)Already kinda made up my mind to get this beastly machine next week so I was wondering if I should get it from jayacom or devour? Any kind person mind linking his profile here?  blush.gif
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1. Not problem, just issues laugh.gif
a. Micro suttering. Some gamers don't care, for other it's deal breaker.
b. Not all games support SLI.

2. devour main thread in garage sales
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=98&t=1890950

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