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MrHunter
post Dec 12 2012, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Dec 11 2012, 11:36 PM)
Not easy!!
1) We have friends around, husband work in CBJ, wife work in KL and kids study in SRJKC in City, unlikely he will move to CBJ

2) Another friend, wife teach in Mutimedia Uni CBJ, husband teach in U Malaya, wife doesnt want to move to CBJ, prefer travelling everyday.

3) Another retired relatives, son work in SIngapore but bought house in CBJ for parents and parents refused to move there, because CBJ limited chuyuk, no temple to pray, no like minded old folks to play chest with them in the open park, nobody exercise tai chi and Wai tan kong in the park.
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Correct. It is not easy. But we are talking about phase 1 after commercial is up. So it could be slightly easier than what we are seeing now in 3yrs time. Having said that, your hypothetical scenarios are not comprehensive enough to cover entire population here. It should 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9..... to cover eg. single who work in cbj, couple both work in cbj without kid, couple one work in cjb one in kajang without kid, couple one work in cjb, one work in puchong/serikembangan/shah alam/Sepang, Pilot or those travel frequently etc. While there are ppls care about foods or taichi but there are also many don't care about this (like me, my wife is fantastic chef). So, there can be many different scenarios that can be favoured to and infavoured to cbj.

Anyway, as i said earlier it will be taking time. I realised nowadays ppls are more mobile than the generation before. I stayed and moved to many places in Klang Valley over years like ampang, cheras, kajang, PJ ss2, subang etc. Ppls will try to improve their standard of living in term of lifestyle or move from shit to better place. And Lifestyle, for different ppls will be different definition..it can be in term of house itself, environment surrounding the housing development, food, shopping mall, traffic, distance to work, density etc. A township will attract those who meet their requirement. Sometimes, it is difficult to assume a place that can fullfill ALL ppls requirements. Every place sure ada their fans. Just like me, I never think that SA is livable 3years ago. But now, it is in pretty good shape (though i still won't live there). So, let's see and revisit this in 3-5years time, it shall give us different perspective (good or bad time will tell).


Added on December 12, 2012, 7:56 pm
QUOTE(fkfk @ Dec 12 2012, 07:26 PM)
Don't your realise high rise condominium not only oversupply in Ccyberjaya but also in other places of klang valley unsure.gif
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Yes highrise seems to be the theme of development. But, landed is getting expensive which means many have no choice but to settle with highrise. When we look at oversupply, we need to know the yearly expansion of population from newbies too. But surely, for specific area, i see oversupply of highrise that can be an issues in term of competition for flipper or rental market. I am more concern on shoebox apartment.

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post Dec 12 2012, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Dec 12 2012, 07:51 PM)
Correct. It is not easy. But we are talking about phase 1 after commercial is up. So it could be slightly easier than what we are seeing now in 3yrs time. Having said that, your hypothetical scenarios are not comprehensive enough to cover entire population here. It should 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9..... to cover eg. single who work in cbj, couple both work in cbj without kid, couple one work in cjb one in kajang without kid, couple one work in cjb, one work in puchong/serikembangan/shah alam/Sepang, Pilot or those travel frequently etc. While there are ppls care about foods or taichi but there are also many don't care about this (like me, my wife is fantastic chef). So, there can be many different scenarios that can be favoured to and infavoured to cbj.
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Can't study on the whole CBJ daytime population unless i have access to the Banci Negara info for CBJ.
My sampling is bias on the first place, need to admit that, and it is called probability convinience sampling, just ask the people that around me. Or purposeful sampling which focus on investors of CBJ not the current residents of CBJ.

i can give sample 4....9....1000 that work in CBJ and do not want to live in CBJ but it defeat the purpose.

The topic is Why u buy (in) Cyberjaya (grammatical error). Instead of everyone sing the same song. It is good to hear the different songs, and different opinions. This is what the forum for.




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post Dec 12 2012, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Dec 12 2012, 07:51 PM)
Correct. It is not easy. But we are talking about phase 1 after commercial is up. So it could be slightly easier than what we are seeing now in 3yrs time. Having said that, your hypothetical scenarios are not comprehensive enough to cover entire population here. It should 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9..... to cover eg. single who work in cbj, couple both work in cbj without kid, couple one work in cjb one in kajang without kid, couple one work in cjb, one work in puchong/serikembangan/shah alam/Sepang, Pilot or those travel frequently etc. While there are ppls care about foods or taichi but there are also many don't care about this (like me, my wife is fantastic chef). So, there can be many different scenarios that can be favoured to and infavoured to cbj.

Anyway, as i said earlier it will be taking time. I realised nowadays ppls are more mobile than the generation before. I stayed and moved to many places in Klang Valley over years like ampang, cheras, kajang, PJ ss2, subang etc. Ppls will try to improve their standard of living in term of lifestyle or move from shit to better place. And Lifestyle, for different ppls will be different definition..it can be in term of house itself, environment surrounding the housing development, food, shopping mall, traffic, distance to work, density etc. A township will attract those who meet their requirement. Sometimes, it is difficult to assume a  place that can fullfill ALL ppls requirements. Every place sure ada their fans. Just like me, I never think that SA is livable 3years ago. But now, it is in pretty good shape (though i still won't live there). So, let's see and  revisit this in 3-5years time, it shall give us different perspective (good or bad time will tell).


Added on December 12, 2012, 7:56 pm
Yes highrise seems to be the theme of development. But, landed is getting expensive which means many have no choice but to settle with highrise. When we look at oversupply, we need to know the yearly expansion of population from newbies too. But surely, for specific area, i see oversupply of highrise that can be an issues in term of competition for flipper or rental market. I am more concern on shoebox apartment.
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post Dec 13 2012, 09:34 AM

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i think ppl who work in cyberjaya can buy or incase ur a flipper r inverstor... those who work within kl r selongor its not worth buying there...
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post Dec 13 2012, 09:38 AM

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Landed is not only getting expensive, but FH landed is getting scarce... and the land side for landed is getting smaller and smaller, look at those zero-lot bungalow, although it is called bungalow but actually look like terrace.

QUOTE(MrHunter @ Dec 12 2012, 07:51 PM)
Correct. It is not easy. But we are talking about phase 1 after commercial is up. So it could be slightly easier than what we are seeing now in 3yrs time. Having said that, your hypothetical scenarios are not comprehensive enough to cover entire population here. It should 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9..... to cover eg. single who work in cbj, couple both work in cbj without kid, couple one work in cjb one in kajang without kid, couple one work in cjb, one work in puchong/serikembangan/shah alam/Sepang, Pilot or those travel frequently etc. While there are ppls care about foods or taichi but there are also many don't care about this (like me, my wife is fantastic chef). So, there can be many different scenarios that can be favoured to and infavoured to cbj.

Anyway, as i said earlier it will be taking time. I realised nowadays ppls are more mobile than the generation before. I stayed and moved to many places in Klang Valley over years like ampang, cheras, kajang, PJ ss2, subang etc. Ppls will try to improve their standard of living in term of lifestyle or move from shit to better place. And Lifestyle, for different ppls will be different definition..it can be in term of house itself, environment surrounding the housing development, food, shopping mall, traffic, distance to work, density etc. A township will attract those who meet their requirement. Sometimes, it is difficult to assume a  place that can fullfill ALL ppls requirements. Every place sure ada their fans. Just like me, I never think that SA is livable 3years ago. But now, it is in pretty good shape (though i still won't live there). So, let's see and  revisit this in 3-5years time, it shall give us different perspective (good or bad time will tell).


Added on December 12, 2012, 7:56 pm
Yes highrise seems to be the theme of development. But, landed is getting expensive which means many have no choice but to settle with highrise. When we look at oversupply, we need to know the yearly expansion of population from newbies too. But surely, for specific area, i see oversupply of highrise that can be an issues in term of competition for flipper or rental market. I am more concern on shoebox apartment.
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post Dec 13 2012, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 13 2012, 09:38 AM)
Landed is not only getting expensive, but FH landed is getting scarce... and the land side for landed is getting smaller and smaller, look at those zero-lot bungalow, although it is called bungalow but actually look like terrace.
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post Dec 13 2012, 09:50 AM

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wah nice!

QUOTE(Soros007 @ Dec 13 2012, 09:41 AM)
Setia Eco Glades Project appeared in Home Finder magazine.
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post Dec 13 2012, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Dec 7 2012, 10:37 PM)
1)expensive RM/PSF
2)super less non halal food
3)super less of alcohol
4)far from anywhere (for thos who haven't come here before)
5)no night life
6)no malls YET
7)less banks
8)too many N*g**** students
9)road too many poth hole LOL unavoidable la anywhere oso same
10)dusty now (every where oso same la)
11)ony got petonas no shell no caltex no bhp no petron (LOL who cares)
12)no this no that no etc etc
When Cyberjaya transforms like Damansara, when HER @ Cyberjaya transforms like Desa ParkCity...

We buy the potential, & we are looking forward for own stay.

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post Dec 13 2012, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Dec 8 2012, 12:27 PM)
take train bagus la
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Agreed.

Especially for fixed office hour worker.

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post Dec 13 2012, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 9 2012, 03:43 PM)
Since cyber is so shitty why r u still living there? Or u r one if the robbers?
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Brother, let them be, many people want cheap & good. U see how hot Eco Hill @ Semenyih is? Because it is cheap.

But when come to Cyberjaya, why many have negative comments? Because HER is not for everyone.

It is just like Desa ParkCity, there is no hot topic, but in real life it is one of the top class.

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post Dec 13 2012, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Dec 9 2012, 10:25 PM)
very special now leow biggrin.gif

they got desparate discount now biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif

5% + 5%
and starting price is 1.4Xm according to Mr Mario @ Mansion Park thread

no longer 1.538M leow.
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The forever true investment theory:

Buy on the RIGHT time, the RIGHT product @ RIGHT place!

The one u mention not the RIGHT product.

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post Dec 13 2012, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(CK15 @ Dec 10 2012, 01:15 PM)
In term of family living in CBJ, Cyberia is the worst place, and not much different for Cyberia Neo and Domain, as all can be classified student house/condos.

If you got chance to stay at D'melor and Cyber Heights, those issues you experienced can cut at least 70%f. The living experience will be much much better if you stay in SG, GR, SEG, SH ....

So, this is not the issue of CBJ, it is the living place you choose...

Btw, the rental in Cyber Heights is around RM2.5k-3.5k. and price around RM300/sqft (can get fire sale/auction unit with cheaper price if you monitor closely)
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Agreed.

How much u pay, is how much u get.

U want top class, u pay a premium.

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QUOTE(cybertechmkteo @ Dec 10 2012, 02:40 PM)
+1 & LIKE X 1000  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

SH, SG, GR, MBTL these gated guarded for family use not really for student use.

but for Cyberheights not so.

a lil run down.
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Cyberjaya is transforming into living place.

I can say, non of us are buying for MSC status.

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QUOTE(aliluya @ Dec 11 2012, 02:16 AM)
Can u share what duration is your short term? ..coz overall i'll be selling it after getting key or waiting key if there is a appreciation..not sure will keep for rental..
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Nowadays highrise is hard to flip, almost every places including Singapore.

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 11 2012, 12:45 PM)
i keep for retirement. another 25-30 years. my god.
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Like!

U are true investor like Soros007.

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QUOTE(MrHunter @ Dec 11 2012, 09:28 PM)
Cyberjaya no need to lure ppl from mk cheras etc to stay there in next few yrs after commercial is up. Need to b realistic. Dpc took 7/8 yrs to pull mk ppls over. Maybe few here n there yes..definitely not flooding in for sure. Most importantly it mus convince the ciber employees to stay there. Thats more than enough for first phsse population. It is muc easier. If it cant even attract them to stay then it ll take timessssss to get population. Next ll b the migrants from puchong n kajang..of course those like spaces n better environment.
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Cyberjaya professional working couple + Puchong rich & upgraders will be the key.

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 11 2012, 09:41 PM)
Be diversify. Buy at diff places, region, country.
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Agreed.

Especially when RM keeps depreciate.

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 11 2012, 10:50 PM)
In Singapore, first property 20% D/P. Second property 40% if loan for first property is still not fully paid.
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Singapore is difficult to own a second properties for working employee.

We are still working hard...

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QUOTE(noblebaby @ Dec 13 2012, 09:50 AM)
wah nice!
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Island unit is superb. Must buy for the rich like u.

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must have lots of luck too tongue.gif

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Island unit is superb. Must buy for the rich like u.
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