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post Aug 28 2012, 12:57 AM, updated 14y ago

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hi.just bought top gear latest magazine
they feature 24 cars,and choose the best

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and the winner is toyota hachi roku

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several reasons why the car won:

-better than expected
-with the price it being sell,its a super bargain,given the capability of the car
-go around corner,better than any car with same category,price range.
-comfortable enough for everyday use,supermarket run etc

u guys agree?

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post Aug 28 2012, 12:57 AM

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uk edition or MY edition ts
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pegi pasar, naik AE86, bawak ikan, WIN?
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post Aug 28 2012, 12:59 AM

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where's dat ahbeng hater?
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QUOTE(queenc @ Aug 28 2012, 12:57 AM)
uk edition or MY edition ts
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malaysia version la sad.gif

uk version,download brows.gif
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post Aug 28 2012, 12:59 AM

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Inb4 GTR better
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QUOTE(YomKippur @ Aug 28 2012, 12:59 AM)
where's dat ahbeng hater?
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sengaja tulis "JDM"
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Aug 28 2012, 12:58 AM)
pegi pasar, naik AE86, bawak ikan, WIN?
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-pegi pasar
-beli ikan
-bawa balik ikan + 'ayam' (if u know what i mean)
-super win
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post Aug 28 2012, 01:01 AM

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where are the korean fanatics? did they even enter topgear?
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QUOTE(WanMB @ Aug 28 2012, 12:59 AM)
Inb4 GTR better
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obviously better

but at that price
with "toyota" badge
with that some-say-hideous looks

but comes with surprising performance
quite a shock

thats why win..i guess
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QUOTE(stix @ Aug 28 2012, 01:01 AM)
where are the korean fanatics? did they even enter topgear?
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owh
among those 24 cars,no korean cars sweat.gif

not good enough...yet i guess

but got suzuki swift
the car that i been promoting endlessly tongue.gif

glad that it gets the credit and appreciation it deserved
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Aug 28 2012, 12:58 AM)
pegi pasar, naik AE86, bawak ikan, WIN?
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ala otai 86 angkut tauhu ok je
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QUOTE(queenc @ Aug 28 2012, 01:04 AM)
waiting for LEXUS badge
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well,buy the subaru counterpart.almost very identical
but with somewhat better badge (jeremy said in the mag)
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:03 AM)
owh
among those 24 cars,no korean cars sweat.gif

not good enough...yet i guess

but got suzuki swift
the car that i been promoting endlessly tongue.gif

glad that it gets the credit and appreciation it deserved
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Korean cars only good on the outside.
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QUOTE(stix @ Aug 28 2012, 01:01 AM)
where are the korean fanatics? did they even enter topgear?
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got leh.. they use em at the celebrity test track.. biggrin.gif
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post Aug 28 2012, 01:06 AM

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VW Scirocco x de ker? Saya minat kete ni.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 28 2012, 01:05 AM)
got leh.. they use em at the celebrity test track.. biggrin.gif
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i think,they getting better
give some more time

then i think,those korean car will be coveted much more by top gear
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post Aug 28 2012, 01:08 AM

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Okay a must buy car..
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post Aug 28 2012, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(coklatua @ Aug 28 2012, 01:06 AM)
VW Scirocco x de ker? Saya minat kete ni.
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well,they cant test all the car available on the face of the earth kan? sweat.gif

but other review site/videos,price the sirocco very much

less practical then golf
cheaper than a golf gti,but offer same performance
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post Aug 28 2012, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(kidmad @ Aug 28 2012, 01:08 AM)
Okay a must buy car..
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i think got a user,k-tard
test drive this hachi roku

he said super ossem
the acceleration
the shift
the cornering

top notch.
with the price its originally given,its a no brainer

but in malaysia
due to the tax
almost double
shit....
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:11 AM)
i think got a user,k-tard
test drive this hachi roku

he said super ossem
the acceleration
the shift
the cornering

top notch.
with the price its originally given,its a no brainer

but in malaysia
due to the tax
almost double
shit....
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i think rm230k is still affordable compared to Lotus Evora. Ok i need to work my ass off. Salary no 5 figure don't think about it. Need a year or 2 to reach. sad.gif and i do agree car is not always about speed. Does it be scirocco actually? When buy really need to test it out tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Aug 28 2012, 01:15 AM)
i think rm230k is still affordable compared to Lotus Evora. Ok i need to work my ass off. Salary no 5 figure don't think about it. Need a year or 2 to reach. sad.gif and i do agree car is not always about speed. Does it be scirocco actually? When buy really need to test it out  tongue.gif
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well...

1)kinda annoying we have to pay much more than other country's citizen for the same damn car

2)lotus kinda not famous with reliability.to buy a lotus for primary car would be....suicidal lol

i do think this is much better than sirocco.this is more...focus on performance.tailored for driving pleasure.
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the verdict doesn't apply here lol

thanks to bolehland price
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 28 2012, 01:18 AM)
the verdict doesn't apply here lol

thanks to bolehland price
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no verdict apply here


1)price not the same

2)some manufacturer produce 'malaysia' version of their car,to cut cost,thus bring down the price due to the tax,rendering the good,quality car become much prone to broke down and less reliable


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aiya u everything read magazine, see top gear show....no real experience tongue.gif

this car very disappointing in terms of malaysian price and its straight line performance... but i also havent driven and sat in the car though tongue.gif

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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:22 AM)
aiya u everything read magazine, see top gear show....no real experience tongue.gif

this car very disappointing in terms of malaysian price and its straight line performance... but i also havent driven and sat in the car though tongue.gif
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lol
u also donno kan

i talk from mag,video,review,and our own ktard test drive experience

i dont read the thread?

the way he told,fuuh...
macam delicious

wait la.i rajin,cari thread tu

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:18 AM)
well...

1)kinda annoying we have to pay much more than other country's citizen for the same damn car

2)lotus kinda not famous with reliability.to buy a lotus for primary car would be....suicidal lol

i do think this is much better than sirocco.this is more...focus on performance.tailored for driving pleasure.
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Sure bo the german ride lose by a mile? 1.4 TSI scirocco was always my choice until these came out.

Sorry FT86 is rm243k hmm.gif This must be compared with 2.0 scirocco. Man i test drive scirocco it's damn awesome. sapu corner is makan kacang putih. FT86 dorno got such agility and handling at the same time or not.
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Aug 28 2012, 01:24 AM)
Sure bo the german ride lose by a mile? 1.4 TSI scirocco was always my choice until these came out.

Sorry FT86 is rm243k  hmm.gif This must be compared with 2.0 scirocco. Man i test drive scirocco it's damn awesome. sapu corner is makan kacang putih. FT86 dorno got such agility and handling at the same time or not.
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well
i cant say much,i never drive nor ride any of those car sweat.gif

but from what i read,and what i heard those who ever drove them

i kinda..convinced that in term of pure pleasure,enjoyment,ft86 much better.if not a lil bit better

but in all-rounder,i think sirocco better.

the ft86 steering too sensitive.thus,i requires precise handling,thus more focus and attention need to be given while driving,thus making u much more tired.compare to a normal car

well,i love sirocco too.much way sexier than ft86

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who cares what shit car better when u dont have $$$ buy?
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QUOTE(myva @ Aug 28 2012, 01:29 AM)
who cares what shit car better when u dont have $$$ buy?
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who cares what shit u spout from that shitty mouth and what shit u type with that shitty hand
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:22 AM)
aiya u everything read magazine, see top gear show....no real experience tongue.gif

this car very disappointing in terms of malaysian price and its straight line performance... but i also havent driven and sat in the car though tongue.gif
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nah tered smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...79&hl=toyota+86

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Almost the same price with Golf GTI, making the purchase decision difficult.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:26 AM)
well
i cant say much,i never drive nor ride any of those car sweat.gif

but from what i read,and what i heard those who ever drove them

i kinda..convinced that in term of pure pleasure,enjoyment,ft86 much better.if not a lil bit better

but in all-rounder,i think sirocco better.

the ft86 steering too sensitive.thus,i requires precise handling,thus more focus and attention need to be given while driving,thus making u much more tired.compare to a normal car

well,i love sirocco too.much way sexier than ft86
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yeah man i everyday droll at my neighbour who park his scirocco beside my savvy sad.gif Im just driving a cheap car atm. Damn my condo itself have 3 scirocco lying around sibeh jelly.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:26 AM)
well
i cant say much,i never drive nor ride any of those car sweat.gif

but from what i read,and what i heard those who ever drove them

i kinda..convinced that in term of pure pleasure,enjoyment,ft86 much better.if not a lil bit better

but in all-rounder,i think sirocco better.

the ft86 steering too sensitive.thus,i requires precise handling,thus more focus and attention need to be given while driving,thus making u much more tired.compare to a normal car

well,i love sirocco too.much way sexier than ft86
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:30 AM)
ive read the thread also last time.... but i think if u want to enjoy the 86 is through corners and bends. for highway or city, forget it, get a VW instead. haha
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QUOTE(DavalPrestor @ Aug 28 2012, 01:31 AM)
Almost the same price with Golf GTI, making the purchase decision difficult.
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well,i think its pretty much to choose between these 2

golf
-i choose practicality and family more than ur own personal,driving pleasure.though gti is not that shabby at all

86
-u self centered-ly want to satisfy ur craving and need of fun whenever u drive.forgot everything else.u,the car,the road.
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:32 AM)
ive read the thread also last time.... but i think if u want to enjoy the 86 is through corners and bends. for highway or city, forget it, get a VW instead. haha
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but of course biggrin.gif

there is a different,between

-buying a good,fun car

and

-buying a common sense,reasonable car that can be use daily

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:29 AM)
who cares what shit u spout from that shitty mouth and what shit u type with that shitty hand
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dream on whistling.gif
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Aug 28 2012, 01:32 AM)
yeah man i everyday droll at my neighbour who park his scirocco beside my savvy sad.gif Im just driving a cheap car atm. Damn my condo itself have 3 scirocco lying around sibeh jelly.
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hehe.i know that feel man

i used to look at sirocco pic
one day,i say one,drove by while im going to willian corner,for dinner

fuuhh
i stop,and stuck in awe
my jaw literally drop
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QUOTE(myva @ Aug 28 2012, 01:36 AM)
dream on  whistling.gif
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kesian,kena smash,terus xtahu nak reply apa sad.gif
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:33 AM)
well,i think its pretty much to choose between these 2

golf
-i choose practicality and family more than ur own personal,driving pleasure.though gti is not that shabby at all

86
-u self centered-ly want to satisfy ur craving and need of fun whenever u drive.forgot everything else.u,the car,the road.
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definitely golf is more practical, with the extra seats, the "auto" gearbox, and quietness in normal drive. it also has the continental feeling of solid, well built material in the interior. also, the turbo engine gives sh1tloads of torque for city driving, making overtaking a breeze. the 86 has a high revving NA engine.

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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Aug 28 2012, 01:37 AM)
2 pintu.. nyesal beli 2 pintu bila dah kawin..
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thats why
kena choose

ur need,ur pleasure

or

other people needs?

regardless which u choose,its ur money that going to be spend tongue.gif

i made up my mind long ago smile.gif
i choose myself,my passion
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:37 AM)
definitely golf is more practical, with the extra seats, the "auto" gearbox, and quietness in normal drive. it also has the continental feeling of solid, well built material in the interior. also, the turbo engine gives sh1tloads of torque for city driving, making overtaking a breeze. the 86 has a high revving NA engine.
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indeed

but high revving is addicting isnt it? tongue.gif

nevertheless,both have their own good points
choose according to ur own personal preferences smile.gif
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:36 AM)
hehe.i know that feel man

i used to look at sirocco pic
one day,i say one,drove by while im going to willian corner,for dinner

fuuhh
i stop,and stuck in awe
my jaw literally drop
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people around me 19-22 years old all driving Golf R, GTI, even audi S4, good thing i can tumpang taxi ride brows.gif
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:39 AM)
people around me 19-22 years old all driving Golf R, GTI, even audi S4, good thing i can tumpang taxi ride brows.gif
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ffuuah?
golf r?
s4?

perrghh
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good taste
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:38 AM)
thats why
kena choose

ur need,ur pleasure

or

other people needs?

regardless which u choose,its ur money that going to be spend tongue.gif

i made up my mind long ago smile.gif
i choose myself,my passion
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if u rich enough, buy both and no need pening kepala brows.gif
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:41 AM)
if u rich enough, buy both and no need pening kepala brows.gif
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the biggest problem of em all biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:40 AM)
ffuuah?
golf r?
s4?

perrghh
good man  thumbup.gif
good taste
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haha, once in a while run with them, very syiok...... rode in the S4, hitting 190kph in cyberjaya
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:42 AM)
haha, once in a while run with them, very syiok...... rode in the S4, hitting 190kph in cyberjaya
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but im guessing golf r better? hmm.gif
much more....'hardcore' isnt it?
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 02:42 AM)
haha, once in a while run with them, very syiok...... rode in the S4, hitting 190kph in cyberjaya
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:43 AM)
but im guessing golf r better? hmm.gif
much more....'hardcore' isnt it?
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better compared to? hmm.gif
audi S4 is like bmw 335i level, one level below m3, one level above A4 2.0T/bmw 330i/merc C300
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:45 AM)
better compared to?  hmm.gif
audi S4 is like bmw 335i level, one level below m3, one level above A4 2.0T/bmw 330i/merc C300
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eh?
s4 lower than m3?
i thought at least the same as m3 hmm.gif

i mean,golf r better than s4
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:36 AM)
kesian,kena smash,terus xtahu nak reply apa sad.gif
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more like a cheap shot from u
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:46 AM)
eh?
s4 lower than m3?
i thought at least the same as m3 hmm.gif

i mean,golf r better than s4
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RS4 = M3
S4 = 335i

S4 if new price should be around RM500k..but only got grey imports year 09-10.. around 300-400k only.

S4 3.0L V6 supercharged 333hp RM500k
Golf R 2.0L 4cyl turbo 255hp RM269k

u do the math
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QUOTE(myva @ Aug 28 2012, 01:48 AM)
more like a cheap shot from u
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eh
u come here,saying those sort of stuff

cheap shot from me? sweat.gif
whatever float ur boat,my man
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 01:49 AM)
RS4 = M3
S4 = 335i

S4 if new price should be around RM500k..but only got grey imports year 09-10.. around 300-400k only.

S4 3.0L V6 supercharged 333hp RM500k
Golf R 2.0L 4cyl turbo 255hp RM269k

u do the math
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hmm....

shoot,forgot the rs line up tongue.gif
yeah..
got ur point smile.gif
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Aug 28 2012, 01:43 AM)
yeah, mcm pak arab and * di cyberjaya..
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 02:54 AM)
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:50 AM)
hmm....

shoot,forgot the rs line up tongue.gif
yeah..
got ur point smile.gif
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so....what else in top gear magazine? hmm.gif need to take a look at 86 someday
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QUOTE(phas3r @ Aug 28 2012, 02:01 AM)
so....what else in top gear magazine? hmm.gif need to take a look at 86 someday
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the review of the 24 cars
then several review individually

consist of

merc a series
malaysia focus's review
camry
audi rs4
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 02:06 AM)
the review of the 24 cars
then several review individually

consist of

merc a series
malaysia focus's review
camry
audi rs4
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hmm donlod where for UK version?
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so....what else in top gear magazine? hmm.gif need to take a look at 86 someday
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2 pintu.. nyesal beli 2 pintu bila dah kawin..
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Transplant engine 4G93 GSR - 10k

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Have sexy time in the car : done


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QUOTE(achilleus @ Aug 28 2012, 02:11 AM)
Bought my 2 door car when i was early 20's and sold it off at late 20's. I was thinking before marriage is the sweet spot to have 2 door cars.

Damage done :

Transplant engine 4G93 GSR - 10k

Audio - 2k

Exterior + tuning stuff put misc  : cincai about 10k including rims + tyre

Have sexy time in the car : done
My 20's is complete.
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putra?
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putra?
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Satria
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too bad umw malaysia sell it at a skyhigh price.
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Satria
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in UK price its worthed...in malaysian price, its not even 1% worthed
and they say comfortable enough for everyday drive meaning an everyday car selling at a VERY premium price
totally not worthed
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QUOTE(proxymate @ Aug 28 2012, 03:40 AM)
and what was the price when u sold it?
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truth is most of /k cant afford any of the car listed....
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I've been eyeing this car since it was announced.

Going to test drive it in September. I'm considering it as a weekend car but only will be getting it next year used (if they announce an open top version, I'll jump at that). Still have to work out the maintenance as japanese cars are not cheap to maintain here.

Being a rear wheel drive should make it more fun than a Scirocco.
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QUOTE(jAkUn @ Aug 28 2012, 12:58 AM)
pegi pasar, naik AE86, bawak ikan, WIN?
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TOYOTA 86 = TOYOTA vios. Unser, Innova and Avanza
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:03 AM)
owh
among those 24 cars,no korean cars sweat.gif

not good enough...yet i guess

but got suzuki swift
the car that i been promoting endlessly tongue.gif

glad that it gets the credit and appreciation it deserved
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swift is surprisingly good.

saw one swift and one 4wd chasing to cameron hilltop.

that swift seems like redlining.....fuh....its good! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif



btw,86 looks better in blue laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:18 AM)
well...

1)kinda annoying we have to pay much more than other country's citizen for the same damn car

2)lotus kinda not famous with reliability.to buy a lotus for primary car would be....suicidal lol

i do think this is much better than sirocco.this is more...focus on performance.tailored for driving pleasure.
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lotus?

can you sit on your car floor? the seat is like 1 inch from the floor laugh.gif laugh.gif

and no cup holder laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:55 AM)
swift is surprisingly good.

saw one swift and one 4wd chasing to cameron hilltop.

that swift seems like redlining.....fuh....its good! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
btw,86 looks better in blue  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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hhaha.. diff car segment comparison..
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Aug 28 2012, 01:32 AM)
yeah man i everyday droll at my neighbour who park his scirocco beside my savvy sad.gif Im just driving a cheap car atm. Damn my condo itself have 3 scirocco lying around sibeh jelly.
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at that price, buy bmw 335(recon), and smoke all of them away brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

u get status and power brows.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:02 AM)
the key like Nissan GTR
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hmm donlod where for UK version?
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QUOTE(queenc @ Aug 28 2012, 01:01 AM)
a bait.... a friggin bait...
man can cook = romantic

but man can cook + drive  brows.gif  brows.gif JDM brows.gif  brows.gif  =  cool2.gif
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lotus?

can you sit on your car floor? the seat is like 1 inch from the floor  laugh.gif  laugh.gif

and no cup holder  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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lool
but evora looks promising.in review,they say its very comfortable to ride
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Aug 28 2012, 07:55 AM)
swift is surprisingly good.

saw one swift and one 4wd chasing to cameron hilltop.

that swift seems like redlining.....fuh....its good! notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
btw,86 looks better in blue  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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fuoohh
swift really good.value for money biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 06:23 AM)
TOYOTA 86 = TOYOTA vios. Unser, Innova and Avanza
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ni bukan jdm ke?
toyota 86=JDMMMMMMMM POWAAHHHHH!!!
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msia here sell how much... affordable my arse
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QUOTE(Jasonist @ Aug 28 2012, 10:30 AM)
msia here sell how much... affordable my arse
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well,its malaysia gov with malaysia tax that being an arse
exorbitantly high

around 260k something

at uk=112k something
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I really gotta know, whats a JDM????
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I really gotta know, whats a JDM????
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ask that ai06 something

im just putting it as bait for him tongue.gif
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Inb4 gtr use for transport petai
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 12:59 AM)
sengaja tulis "JDM"
bait brows.gif
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 10:32 AM)
well,its malaysia gov with malaysia tax that being an arse
exorbitantly high

around 260k something

at uk=112k something
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I guess with part time job, I need 10 years sweat.gif
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QUOTE(farkinid @ Aug 28 2012, 10:36 AM)
I really gotta know, whats a JDM????
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Japan Domestic Market

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QUOTE(alexyeoh @ Aug 28 2012, 11:00 AM)
Japan Domestic Market
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Thanks but I still don't understand whats the hoo haa about this.
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QUOTE(YomKippur @ Aug 28 2012, 10:50 AM)
i think tat guy only makan bait when got proton word.
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the best bait is

"puihh.proton macam shit.vios 100x better"

sure he come
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QUOTE(farkinid @ Aug 28 2012, 11:05 AM)
Thanks but I still don't understand whats the hoo haa about this.
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meaning,a car made in japan

not like,honda or toyota here

which being assemble here.some even have different (read:less) feature than their made-in-japan counterpart

some people,butthurt when people said,lets say,toyota vios is as good as any made in japan,japan car
cuz for that people,vios is not even close to any made in japan,japan car
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QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Aug 28 2012, 10:59 AM)
cry.gif

I guess with part time job, I need 10 years  sweat.gif
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but.. but the 86 is still 200k+ here. At my current salary it will take me ages to own it. But it's still in my list of 'most coveted car'
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QUOTE(St. Orion @ Aug 28 2012, 12:17 PM)
but.. but the 86 is still 200k+ here. At my current salary it will take me ages to own it. But it's still in my list of 'most coveted car'
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as shame
a pity
what a great car we all miss sad.gif

thanks to certain tax,being imposed by certain people
janji ditepati!
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 12:26 PM)
as shame
a pity
what a great car we all miss sad.gif

thanks to certain tax,being imposed by certain people
janji ditepati!
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a great car indeed. thanks to those people we will never enjoy such cars. we will still be stuck with trash cars.
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QUOTE(St. Orion @ Aug 28 2012, 12:28 PM)
a great car indeed. thanks to those people we will never enjoy such cars. we will still be stuck with trash cars.
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here hoping things will change
soon...
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86 in m'sia overpriced le...
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 12:32 PM)
here hoping things will change
soon...
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Normally if Opposition say abolish tax, ISA etc. BN will follow or at least partially address it in a couple of years. If Opposition lose, I hope BN would at least lower the archaic-protectionist tax. I also want to ride a good car.

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My friend bought this car at aus,around 30K AUD only. ;(
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QUOTE(BlueBaby @ Aug 28 2012, 12:40 PM)
My friend bought this car at aus,around 30K AUD only. ;(
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with its performance,this car is like bargain of the century
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QUOTE(BlueBaby @ Aug 28 2012, 12:40 PM)
My friend bought this car at aus,around 30K AUD only. ;(
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30,000.00 AUD = 96,970.97 MYR
OMG! shocking.gif
Under 100K MY, wow.
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Kindly take note of the ultimate purpose for this car
This car is good to bring Taufu around also...

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QUOTE(taitianhin @ Aug 28 2012, 01:52 PM)
Kindly take note of the ultimate purpose for this car
This car is good to bring Taufu around also...
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QUOTE(coklatua @ Aug 28 2012, 01:25 PM)
30,000.00 AUD = 96,970.97 MYR
OMG! shocking.gif
Under 100K MY, wow.
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would it be cheaper if we bought it,lets say at aus
then bring it back here?
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Inspira 86 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 28 2012, 08:03 PM)
Inspira 86 laugh.gif
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it could be a reality
do it proton.do it laugh.gif

call it satria 86
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 12:00 PM)
meaning,a car made in japan

not like,honda or toyota here

which being assemble here.some even have different (read:less) feature than their made-in-japan counterpart

some people,butthurt when people said,lets say,toyota vios is as good as any made in japan,japan car
cuz for that people,vios is not even close to any made in japan,japan car
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Those who own jdm know it.. But ah beng who upgrade from kancil to vios believe his car sure like japan car in japangg
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:32 PM)
Those who own jdm know it.. But ah beng who upgrade from kancil to vios believe his car sure like japan car in japangg
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mai daahhhh laugh.gif
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the problem is Malaysia selling RM250k and UK selling £25k
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the problem is Malaysia selling RM250k and UK selling £25k
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the one and only problem,actually
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Aug 28 2012, 08:42 PM)
the problem is Malaysia selling RM250k and UK selling £25k
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that's why wait for grey imports lor.. GTR 2008 now only 350k or less, last time was like 700k..

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:48 PM)
that's why wait for grey imports lor.. GTR 2008 now only 350k or less, last time was like 700k..
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tax kaw kaw matter
or else Toyota 86 will be a good buy * if price around RM150k
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:48 PM)
that's why wait for grey imports lor.. GTR 2008 now only 350k or less, last time was like 700k..
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gtr=350k?

fffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Aug 28 2012, 08:49 PM)
tax kaw kaw matter
or else Toyota 86 will be a good buy  * if price around RM150k
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should be 121k if im not mistaken
if direct convert from uk
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:48 PM)
that's why wait for grey imports lor.. GTR 2008 now only 350k or less, last time was like 700k..
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now facelift oso 600 700+
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QUOTE(MR_alien @ Aug 28 2012, 08:31 AM)
most keys looks the same nowadays
u can say it look like kia forte's key also can
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Vios n city key oso like that..smile.gif
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Aug 28 2012, 08:52 PM)
that's for the pre facelift

now facelift oso 600 700+
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i tot grey import mostly car aged 5 yrs from japs?
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Aug 28 2012, 08:49 PM)
tax kaw kaw matter
or else Toyota 86 will be a good buy  * if price around RM150k
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Kia forte,ford fiesta oso got tax.. But they reletively cheaper than vios.. Blame tax?
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:55 PM)
Kia forte,ford fiesta oso got tax.. But they reletively cheaper than vios.. Blame tax?
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lol
ni nak kena ni tongue.gif

ford fiesta malaysia xsama with other,like,in uk

uk=made in belgium
malaysia=made in thailand

different interior material

lower making cost
thus lower price,despite the tax
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Toyota86= toyota unser

Fullstop
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:55 PM)
Kia forte,ford fiesta oso got tax.. But they reletively cheaper than vios.. Blame tax?
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Not blame ,
Kia optima selling £20k at UK , selling RM143k at Malaysia
Toyota 86 selling £25k at UK , selling RM250k at Malaysia

think .
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it's a disappointment they didn't include the new 2012 Hyundai Genesis but instead opt for the Suzuki Swift. i guess they still hate the kimchi cars...
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 09:00 PM)
Toyota86= toyota unser

Fullstop
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why?
the reason?
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QUOTE(don^don @ Aug 28 2012, 09:02 PM)
it's a disappointment they didn't include the new 2012 Hyundai Genesis but instead opt for the Suzuki Swift. i guess they still hate the kimchi cars...
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hm..
probably

hope they change their mindset in the future
would love to see the korean car get the credit they (might) deserve
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QUOTE(Hunakadoo @ Aug 28 2012, 09:02 PM)
Not blame ,
Kia optima selling £20k at UK , selling RM143k at Malaysia
Toyota 86 selling £25k at UK , selling RM250k at Malaysia

think .
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My point.. If kia n ford can sell cheaper price .. Why cant toyota(umw)?? All got same tax by gomen maa
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 09:03 PM)
why?
the reason?
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Cant see the front word... Got toyota name

Toyota markx= toyota abanja

Enough said
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 09:04 PM)
My point.. If kia n ford can sell cheaper price .. Why cant toyota(umw)?? All got same tax by gomen maa
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some say,

umw crony,they can put high price,then blame the tax from gov


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can get better recond car at that price
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 09:06 PM)
Cant see the front word... Got toyota name

Toyota markx= toyota abanja

Enough said
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eh?
its not the same

same brand,but different car

so civic=crv?

so saga=exora?

gila
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QUOTE(TOROBO @ Aug 28 2012, 09:06 PM)
can get better recond car at that price
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cant get the same feeling 86 can give biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 09:07 PM)
Toyota86=toyota innova
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not
its not the same
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 09:07 PM)
eh?
its not the same

same brand,but different car

so civic=crv?

so saga=exora?

gila
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Toyota BB= toyota abanja??? Same brand?? Ask japs.. Do they know abanja???
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 09:04 PM)
My point.. If kia n ford can sell cheaper price .. Why cant toyota(umw)?? All got same tax by gomen maa
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in UK the GT86 is priced slightly above (but still competitive) to a Honda CRZ.

but in Malaysia there's a catch. the CRZ is manufactured in Thailand, which makes it into the ASEAN tax region (cheaper than JDM), while the Toyota 86 is manufactured in Japan, thus excluded from the special tax rebate that cars manufactured in Asean region has.

Also, the Toyota 86 currently carries an "exclusive" pricetag because of shortage of supply globally. therefore instead of pricing it at RM199k, which it is supposed to be after JDM taxes, UMW is also 'enjoicing' a premium tax of additional Rm50k. drool.gif
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QUOTE(Ai609 @ Aug 28 2012, 09:09 PM)
Toyota BB= toyota abanja??? Same brand?? Ask japs.. Do they know abanja???
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not
not the same

unser=mpv

86=coupe.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 09:07 PM)
cant get the same feeling 86 can give biggrin.gif
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if anyone can live without all the modern gadgets,I think toyota soarer is a better choice. dunno bout the market price right now though.
last time people say cheap already
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 01:00 AM)
-pegi pasar
-beli ikan
-bawa balik ikan + 'ayam' (if u know what i mean)
-super win
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u mean the ikan sellers amoi daughter rite?
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QUOTE(reshbala @ Aug 28 2012, 10:39 PM)
u mean the ikan sellers  amoi daughter rite?
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correct my fren tongue.gif
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berapa harga?
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 09:12 PM)
not
not the same

unser=mpv

86=coupe.
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mpv also got many types, unser is ladder frame IIRC.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(twilight_fever @ Aug 28 2012, 10:57 PM)
berapa harga?
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shud be 120k smething
but at my
rm260k smethng
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way over budget for most ppl d...haih...can only admire but nt own...
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QUOTE(twilight_fever @ Aug 28 2012, 11:01 PM)
way over budget for most ppl d...haih...can only admire but nt own...
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not that expensive,given its performance....
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ni baru JDM betul.

bukan DNA jepun macam innova/myvi/vios/city!!

GAMPANG!
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Aug 28 2012, 11:12 PM)
ni baru JDM betul.

bukan DNA jepun macam innova/myvi/vios/city!!

GAMPANG!
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dia macam dah tahu la orang nk bait dia
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tak dapat beli kereta, beli majalah kereta pun jadi lah.
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QUOTE(blackorange @ Aug 28 2012, 11:19 PM)
tak dapat beli kereta, beli majalah kereta pun jadi lah.
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 11:18 PM)
dia macam dah tahu la orang nk bait dia
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lol. we accidentally scared him away?
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QUOTE(cracksys @ Aug 28 2012, 11:20 PM)
lol. we accidentally scared him away?
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too much bait and joran,the fish feel somewhat skeptical lol
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If I would spend that much money for a car, I rather spend a bit more and take Golf R.
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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Aug 28 2012, 11:25 PM)
If I would spend that much money for a car, I rather spend a bit more and take Golf R.
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hmm...
im not sure golf r is definitely better than this one
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pipul buy this because it's simply give a great sensation of the rear wheel cars should behave.
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QUOTE(vivakarna @ Aug 28 2012, 11:27 PM)
pipul buy this because it's simply give a great sensation of the rear wheel cars should behave.
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indeed
the throttle response
how it corner

in that aspect,its pretty much the best u could ask,especially at that price
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 11:26 PM)
hmm...
im not sure golf r is definitely better than this one
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Yes, every reviewer said this 86 is driver's car. Boxer front engine, rear wheel drive, limited slip differential, light weight, etc.

But I prefer to have German build quality, practicality, better reliability and that grip from the 4 wheel drive set up.
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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Aug 28 2012, 11:32 PM)
Yes, every reviewer said this 86 is driver's car. Boxer front engine, rear wheel drive, limited slip differential, light weight, etc.

But I prefer to have German build quality, practicality, better reliability and that grip from the 4 wheel drive set up.
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well of course
from the list of the thing u want
golf r definitely better lol
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Aug 28 2012, 11:26 PM)
hmm...
im not sure golf r is definitely better than this one
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saw auntie drove golf R to market, i almost fainted.....its a R....
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QUOTE(harryfoo @ Aug 28 2012, 11:32 PM)
Yes, every reviewer said this 86 is driver's car. Boxer front engine, rear wheel drive, limited slip differential, light weight, etc.

But I prefer to have German build quality, practicality, better reliability and that grip from the 4 wheel drive set up.
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ei uncle, move your myvi. i wan parking.


(happend to my fren who is driving a golf.....)
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QUOTE(stinger82 @ Aug 28 2012, 11:44 PM)
saw auntie drove golf R to market, i almost fainted.....its a R....
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ahahah
feel mortified kan
we wanna buy
no money

they got money
but use to go to market

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QUOTE(twilight_fever @ Aug 28 2012, 10:57 PM)
berapa harga?
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the car,ikan or the amoi?
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Toyota 86 got the POWEERRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

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