Hi all, i've been following this forum since i was in uni. now that i've graduated (results are ok, 3+) and really looking fwd to join this mostly-talked industry O&G. been hearing quite interesting stories - engineering, field works & massive exposures that i can gain...

for short, i graduated from local u in chem eng but i dont really like doing all those simulations, datasheets, etc...(boring....!). i led various projects while in uni with a long-list of extra-curriculars involvement.

now, looking to start my career in this field as a project engineer (yeah, i know you will be saying that i'm dumb! ). Construction management would be a real challenge for me... so if any ol-timers are willing to guide me thru, zillions of appreciations go to you...!

would appreciate some sort of expert advice on the future that i may have in O&G. people describe me as eager (but a talented manager though... )... english, hmm not bad i'd say...

i envy u... TYS123 congrats....

from what i gathered (with limited experience of coz), O&G industry is all about safety & automation; PLC & DCS play important part in achieving this - they are like the nerve system of a processing plant (refineries, petrochem, etc.), offshore platform, and floating facilities as well...

if you like to work with logics control and programming, i guess you are taking your very first right step... money is good for a specialist in this field, esp with major vendors like honeywell, siemens, abb, etc..

good luck

What do u mean by specialization abgkik? Technically i'd say that i can cope. But being project engineer is like a 'jack-of all trades', it inspire me much... My uncle is a project manager now.... Won't specializing in one field will make u static? According to him, u can climb the ladder faster if u r in the project management, especially in a dynamic work environment like construction (for O&G i mean). Your statement is like an insult to PE's... But salary-wise, do you think PE can't get much? My PM uncle said that u can get salary increment 'exponentially' if you are good enough..

I'd value ur advice since u r an otaimer here... Hehe

Thanks abgkik. So u would suggest that i start my career by doing process engineering? U reckon that later i can be a project engineer? Afred that im gonna get stuck...

A valid point there abgkik..
But will i get that chance if the company is hiring me as a grad engineer? I dont have the patience...

Abgkik is a UTM senior? Wow!!
I wonder how much u r getting now Is there any salary difference between local and o/seas grad?
What is the typical increment per year & promotion?

That means i have no chance of getting ur recommendation as well? Darn it!...

5-10% sounds not much... say im gonna get rm2500, meaning +rm125 per year.. And i dont think these companies are kind enuff to give yearly promotion...
I shudn't be an engineer then...

Oceanography? What is that? Study about the ocean?
U can try fishing here... But not O&G sis...

Abgkik agree?

"Oceanography" here refers to marine science (according to Wikipedia)... Nothing mentioned abt Ocean engineering.
And Civil Engineering grad won't be a drilling engineer, closest would be geophysicist i guess.. (With major in geo-- something...

I found this quote from an article on the net.

"Without knowing the actual work required, how is it possible to determine if someone is competent and motivated to do the actual work"

Full article http://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article...kes-of-all-time

Google can't answer everything...

Anyway, for reading pleasure on FPSO subject you can try www.theplatforma.org which is very informative. This was suggested by my uncle.

MOPU does not differ much i guess? But how your boss gave u those questions? If your company is doing MOPU, there must be history in archive somewhere... Not fair for a freshie maa...

Btw, is there a vacancy? I'm looking for a job. MOPU sounds tempting...

The junior cannot 'tahan' la tu... Haha
Bossy supervisor who wanna show off is always least preferred by any juniors...

Bros, care to explain what is a 'watertight door'?
Whoever the guy was, may Allah rest his soul in peace. Amin.

What? Abgkik 'office boy' only??

Lucky him. I would do the same if i cannot 'tahan' u as my senior...

Anyway, is Bumi Armada a good place to start a career? Is there any loyalty benefits for employee who works> 3 years? You shd understand what gen Y expects in term of climbing a career ladder; we are eager.. And cannot go slow...

Talent is very subjective i'd say...
We value ourselves highly, and the eagerness is something that the older gens failed to take advantage of... We won't rate ourselves as 'office boy'... No offence abgkik..

I guess competition is quite high out there and we Gen Y are in for a fight. The workplace shouldn't be a place for complacent pals... Gen X and baby-boomers should take this positively as we are not kids anymore, give us some responsibility and we shall deliver to your expectations... We are open to criticism and we are also free to express our opinions regardless of how old you are...

So now, who want to take me in their company?

Wahh.. Cannot tahan la with ur statement...
"Action louder than speak", really?