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 Oil & Gas Career v4, Technical Sharing & Career Opportunities

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post Jan 26 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Jan 24 2013, 05:55 AM)
Bsides, will the edu fees + cost of living there be too expensive to sustain. I thought of applying financial aids but not sure if they open up for international students. even for a 2 yrs twinning degree,an average amount 46k USD / year seems expensive man.
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US uni now very expensive la ..... are you going using FAMA scholarship (i.e. Father & Mother) or some sort of JPA/Petronas loans? If you cannot afford it, I would recommend doing Petroleum Engineering in UTM Skudai.
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post Jan 27 2013, 02:44 AM

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QUOTE(acgerlok7 @ Jan 26 2013, 06:40 PM)
Im using FAMA scholarship, but well, i will strive hard for at least a partial financial aid/scholarship.. cos im being told im not eligible for UTM edi.. they only xcept STPM 4.0 students and also matriks students, im neither both.
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Hmmm. A cheaper option would be Curtin University in Mir S'wak and also Herriott-Watt in Putrajaya. 45K USD per year is brutal. I know my friend is up to here with one kid in Purdue and 2 in the UK so tuition fees alone for his kids are close to 120K USD per year.
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post Jan 27 2013, 03:22 PM

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What is SHE?
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post Jan 27 2013, 03:34 PM

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Ahhh .... no wonder I am confused. I think most companies still call it HSE.
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post Jan 29 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(noruazumi @ Jan 29 2013, 07:07 AM)
Speaking of Rapid Project, last week I heard rumors that this project kena called-off or some sort.
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The latest news is that BASF & Petronas ended their HOA due to unability to come to an agreement on the terms. So BASF pull out. Today heard that Qatar Sovereign Fund will invest 5 Billon in RAPID so I thin the project is still proceeding as normal.
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post Feb 4 2013, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(barneysteinsson @ Feb 4 2013, 09:37 AM)
hi guys i have one question

is there any chance for a bio grad to enter o&g sector ?
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One of the EOR possibility is in Microbial EOR so yes, there is always an opportunity for you to work in the O&G business.
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post Feb 16 2013, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(viole @ Feb 16 2013, 08:27 AM)
thanks for the motivation. as i have one more sem till intern to boost up my grade, its kind of do-or-die mission biggrin.gif
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Is it a requirment for your degree to have an internship? I would concentrate on making sure I finished the last 3 semesters with a GPA of above 3.5 to boost up my GPA if internship is not a must. Prioritization is also important in life.
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post Feb 20 2013, 06:23 PM

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QUOTE(Jacobs @ Feb 20 2013, 01:10 PM)
What is RTO? Means name is better than the workscope?
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Real-Time Operator maybe?
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post Mar 4 2013, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(Baldy @ Mar 4 2013, 10:25 AM)
Anybody know of any gas turbine jobs  vacancies  in malaysia?
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You will need to look for companies that provides compressor technology to the Oil/Gas platform or you can apply for the operators (Petronas/Talisman/Shell/Exxon) that operates the rigs, they will have the Turbo-Machinery department which should fit your experiences.
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post Mar 6 2013, 04:00 PM

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For those interested to get an overview of the industry and the current Talent supply & demand, this is a good read. A study commissioned by TalentCorp and conducted by PwC.

http://www.talentcorp.com.my/2013/01/10/st...l-gas-sector-2/
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post Mar 6 2013, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(mangoman @ Mar 6 2013, 02:35 PM)
Thanks for the sharing. I'm surprise to see that the most wanted personnel in O&G now is electrical and instrumentation engineer!
Haha.
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I think this is mostly due to the number of downstream projects that teh country is undertaking .....
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post Mar 9 2013, 03:09 PM

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If you take the scholarship, then serve the bond. The scholarship could have been better spent on someone who is willing to come back otherwise.

Petronas now takes no quarter for those who break their bonds, previously they allow for those people to pay in monthly installment but now if you break the bond, you will need to pay in one lump sum the amount Petronas has spent on you which is fair in my opinion.

Again, do not sign the scholarship if you're not willing to serve. It's like taking a housing loan but you have no intention of paying back, you shouldn't whine when the bank foreclose on the house.
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post Mar 9 2013, 08:57 PM

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QUOTE(lel @ Mar 9 2013, 03:15 PM)
Hi guys.

I'm a new guy in O&G industry and currently working as geophysicist with main responsibility of processing seismic data until migration and data QC. Most of my work are done by using ProMAX (Landmark Halliburton) software, and sometimes I use SeisVision or Kingdom for data interpretation.

I'm quite curios about the advancement of my career, since I only use ProMax to process seismic data. From what I've known, there are a lot of other processing softwares. Different companies may use different softwares. So, if someday I want to switch to a different company, will it be difficult for me to make the jump if that company does not use ProMax as their processing software?

Thanks. happy.gif
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Obviously moving to a different company that uses a different processing software will be difficult at first but at the end of the day, ProMax or Omega or etc are just tools. The most important is your understanding of the basic concept of the seismic processing work. Your velocity model your inversion or coherence understanding, those are what companies look for.
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post Mar 11 2013, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(SmokerBamboo @ Mar 10 2013, 10:24 AM)
Yea ppl are being stereotyping. You give a house loan to a student graduated from secondary school and tell him everything nice about the loan. Big chance he would take it and regret when he really understand the whole situation.
Yea maybe to all of the righteous gentlemen here, we are the kacang lupa kulit. But hey, not everyone share the same story and some of us have our own reasons.
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I am not stereotyping. Which part of what I said is not true? Maybe the housing loan example is not proper but the principle is still the same. If they have absolutely no plans to work for Petronas, why did you accept the scholarship/loan offer in the first place? That scholarship/loan could have been given to some deserving students who is willing to come back and work with Petronas? Out of the 400 or so scholarships that were given out each year, more than 20,000 applications were received. Why is it okay for some of these people who have no qualms about taking the scholarship but can give so many excuses about not returning.

Using the excuse that you were a secondary student is no excuse at all. Don't tell me your parents didn't go through the loan agreement? Or the guarantor didn't go through as well?

If you are willing to break the bond to work for a better paying company, then please pay up. I have absolutely no problem with people who is willing to pay back the amount spent on them. What I have an issue is those who think that they are entitled to the loan/scholarship and feels absolutely no need to pay back. I applaud Petronas who will haul the parents and guarantor to court for the breach in contract.

Don't sign anything if you are not willing to follow through.
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post Mar 12 2013, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(MilopingZz @ Mar 11 2013, 05:00 PM)
hey guys, is it better to take the petroleum engineering course locally or overseas? if study overseas for example like Australia and then join the oil companies there, is this okay? salary outside higher right?
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Depends. Does it make economic sense for you to do it overseas? If you can finacially afford it and if your long term plans are for you to work overseas, then maybe. But I know of a lot of excellent professionals who did their degree locally (UTM/UM/UKM) and worked in Malaysia (we do have one of the best O&G industry in the world .... otherwise, companies from overseas won't be trying their best to poach us) for the first 10 years and then moved to major O&G companies overseas.
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Wow some strong opinion there young padawan.

So what I can understand from your rant is that, you despise Petronas for giving you the opportunity to study in UTP (I assume) and for allowing your parents to not worry about paying the tuition fees and your living allowances and in the end when you realised that the industry you're getting into is such a competitive industry where some companies are willing to pay such good salary for fresh grad, you felt entrapped by the bond that you signed. You despise Petronas for giving you the opportunity to be in the industry but not paying you what you "deserved".

So tell me, what makes you so "special" that Petronas (a company of 50 thousand staff) must bend over backwards for you? Did you discover the Kikeh field (a colleague of mine did when he was in Murphy) when you were in University? Did you come up with a process in your final year thesis that saved the industry billion of ringgits that you term yourself deserving of a higher salary to justify why you think the bond that you committed to when you passed your SPM with flying colors are nothing more than toilet paper?

So a Dato' told your family that don't worry, if Petronas gives you a scholarship/loan, that means you will get a job with them (and from what I read in your rant, that's exactly what happened), and that's Petronas fault for giving you a job in the end?

And finally because you're pissed with Petronas and pissed with me for pointing this out that a contract is a contract is a contract, you signed up with LYN and took a handle supposedly to spit me in the eye saying that hey, I left Petronas so I shouldn't be a hypocrite and tell others to stay ....

Open up a dictionary first and look up the definition of hypocrisy before taking that kind of handle. It's beyond pathetic. The issue or the principle I was talking about is that you signed a contract with Petronas whereby you will be bonded with the company for an X amount of years and in return, Petronas will pay for your tuition, your living allowance and book fees thus giving you the opportunity to study in one of the top university.

It is a simple contract, so if you are not willing to pay back the amount that Petronas has spent on you, then serve the bond. You are given a job with Petronas, where you are paid RM4,000 a month (ask myhug or preakzz how much they are getting after close to 18 months trying to get into this industry) and you say that this RM4000 (increasing to RM5,000, a 25% increment after the first year) is not what you deserved? Read back your rant and see why I cannot see the feeble justification you're giving me about why you're being treated like a forced labor/slave.

If you think you deserved (that is your word, not mine) to be paid higher for some other reason you're not telling us, then by all means break the bond BUT what I am saying is, pay up the amount that Petronas has spent on you. It is that simple. But of course you are not willing to pay the amount, because at the end of the day, you all this while, believed that you "deserved" that scholarship/loan and you deserved to be able to work with the highest bidder and you couldn't care less about the amount that Petronas has spent on you.

The definition of hypocrisy is telling others to do what you yourself didn't do. Serving the bond and leaving the company are 2 different things. I was bonded for 10 years eventhough I finished my degree a semester early (so in simple math it should have been a 9 year bond), I was NOT given a position in Petronas within the first 5 months of my return and managed to secure a position with ExxonMobil which at the time was paying almost 40% higher than what Petronas was paying at the time. 2 weeks before I can request for a released from my Scholarship, Petronas got wind of my job offer with ExxonMobil and immediately offered me a position. A contract is a contract is a contract.

I spent the next 10 years working in Petronas and I SERVED MY BOND. I left after my 10 years is up. I left the company having SERVED MY BOND.

There is no contract saying that if Petronas trained me, sent me to attend courses, then they have a right to hold me to a bond. So don't play that game with me.

I never said that you or any of the scholars should stay in Petronas, my main argument is that you have a bond to served, either serve it or pay the amount Petronas has spent on you. Simple.

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post Mar 16 2013, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(huongwk22 @ Mar 15 2013, 05:36 PM)
I am from Miri but currently studying in Johor. Anyone here can offer me intern? smile.gif It is not a must for me to intern in some big company as long as i can learn some useful knowledge during my internship. I had applied to several company but most of them do not entertain my email and  tried to follow up on my application but she (HR/ Admin) said that her boss still haven't make any decision.
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I attended a talk with Talent Corp the other day and they told me that they have systems in place where you can apply for internships with companies that are registered with Talent Corp. Talent Corp is not just focusing on Malaysians working abroad, their main aim is to also cultivate Malaysian in Malaysia talents and also grow the local graduates talent pool. So I would recommend not just for you but for those who are interested to have a look at

http://pemandu.gov.my

There's a link where you can apply for internships for the year 2013.

Good Luck!
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post Mar 16 2013, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(maninyellow @ Mar 16 2013, 07:51 AM)
Years ago, I attended the 'ässessment day' of petronas scholarship. Their staff clearly stated it is a study loan & BOND during the opening remarks. I walked away because i felt deceived. Ended up in one of the top public engineering sch in malaysia, graduated with first class honors, it took me 18 months to land a job in OnG. If i were given second chance to go back to that moment, i would've chosen the same path. Out of so many scholarships out there for grabs, i'm surprised to see there are huge amounts of people took the STUDY LOAN and whine later. Petronas is a business entity, they invested in human development, they want return. There's no free lunch in this world.
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Petronas is not perfect and I know first hand how convoluted their HR Policies are. I would personally say that it's downright stupid sometimes. But the issue we are discussing is the principle of the scholarship/loan and the bond that entails. You have every right to b1tch and whine about the company, it would be weird if you don't but that doesn't change the fact that you are obligated to fulfill your contract with the company either by serving the bond or by repaying the amount Petronas has spent on you. It does not change the situation one iota. So if you cannot afford to pay back the company, then look at it as a glass half full and learn as much as you can, take advantage of the "opportunity" you have in the system (i.e. networking, enhancing your technical skills) because whatever beef I had with the company, I also have to give credit where it is due. I wouldn't be where I am today if not for Petronas.

One note of caution, you can be paid a huge amount of money but if you get a shitty slave driver of a boss, not worth it at all. So take the positives and after you have completed your bond/obligation and if you still feel that you're not appreciated and there are better opportunities out there .... go for it. My last drawn basic salary with Petronas was less than 7K after 10 years working with the company. So think about that when some of the fresh grads are getting a starting salary of 4K increasing to 5K after one year. But with the experience I gained in Petronas, I am earning close to 700K a year now. There is no career where I am now but I'm okay with that. There are always pros and cons in anything you want to do so always take the positives and if you can handle the negatives, you're good to go.
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post Mar 16 2013, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(khyrule_anuar @ Mar 16 2013, 10:11 AM)
is it chemical engineering can apply for this internship application??
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I believe so. No harm applying.
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post Mar 18 2013, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(win44 @ Mar 18 2013, 09:31 AM)
Yikes! Thats very high!
..it looks like i have to rethink my strategy, if i am to reach where you are.
I assume that is pre-tax. Coz if it is after tax, haha, my mind cant process those numbers right now. lol
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I work in the middle east so tax free.

I wouldn't be here today without the training I received and the projects that was entrusted to me by Petronas so don't get me wrong, I don't hate Petronas at all. If you read some of the research done by consultants, people leave their bosses and not the company. I have several goals in my career, earn tons of money, give the best education possible for my kids and return to Petronas once the kids graduate from University ..... some of my colleague who were ex-petronas (we form the majority of the Malaysian expats in my company) have the same aim.

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