Got the beta.

Thanks for the heads up.

Now, left Hawken.

Nope, you cant.

Dont really like the game, to be honest. Cant customise and it is really grindy.

So, this is another pay to enjoy or dont pay to suffer game then?

Thanks for killing my childhood, Piranha Games. Now hope Hawken doesnt screw itself up like End of Nations or Mechwarrior Online.

I'll probably wont be playing Mechwarrior Online until the full release of the game is out. The way the beta is now, does feel a little bit disappointing to me but a beta is beta, things are meant to be broken and unfinished. The way the game is quite depressing to play. I played the closed beta and it doesnt even feel as fun as Mechwarrior 4 with terrible performance issues.

Still, i am hoping that this game will have a nice balance between paying players and free players. I will pay for the game in one way or another, but if they are expecting me to pay a 4 figure price to fully enjoy the game, then, sorry, i wont be playing this.

Free to play is a very difficult game to develop where if you emphasize on the paying side too much, you'll get pay to win like those awful asian MMOs. One the other hand, if you focus too much on giving out free stuff, you'll run into the problem of not earning enough money. One of the new free to play game, Auto Club Revolution ran into this problem because the free cars are actually the best cars in the game.

Yes, i have played it recently and it is still pay to enjoy/win garbage. Just like Hawken or Planetside 2 to a certain extend.

I sincerely hope the free to play bubble burst soon. These kind of money grabbing games should not even exist in the first place.

Hawken is running on an Unreal 3 engine. It just not optimised.

Not like Mechwarrior Online is running any better. It is also as laggy as Hawken.

No offense, MWO doesnt even feel like playing a Mech Warrior game with all these pay wall covering most of the content. I like customising my mechs back in older mechwarriors or just charge into a battle and have fun. In MWO, you cant really do that because you need to pay up or grind for new chassis or weapons. If not, cough up tonnes of C Bills to fix your mech every match. The payment model is very intrusive, to be honest and being a free player, it is just so difficult to enjoy. My principle towards free to play games is, if i cant even enjoy the game as a free to play player, i wont be paying them because that would mean that i have to be paying for microtransaction continuously to enjoy it.

Coming as a person who loved Mechwarrior, MWO is just garbage. It could just beta is beta crap, but if they keep it this way, they wont be seeing a cent from me. I know some free to play games sucked when they are in open beta, namely Tribes Ascend that actually became much better after release, i do hope MWO will be like this too.

I am not playing much of Project CARS at the moment, until i save enough money for a full member access. It is kinda underwhelming playing the game as a Junior as so many content are locked to higher membership so, i stopped playing. Project CARS has been kickstarted since late last year, and it has been going on for more than a year now. It is pretty good, but it feels much more like a sim than a console racing game so this game might not be suitable for everyone. Very happy with the progress so far, as SMS has been quite transparent so far. You can join the development of Project CARS at http://www.wmdportal.com/

I'll probably wont be opening a thread, as i think, not many people will be interested in it. If you want to, i can open it.

I did pledged in a few other kickstarter projects, such as Project Eternity, Planetary Annihilation, Star Citizen, Nekro, Grim Dawn and Distance. Hopefully they will turn out to be good as i am getting very tired with publisher's meddling in game development or great franchise being ruined by free to play model. I think not every game works well with free to play model, some games worked very well, like League of Legends or Dota 2, while others just terrible. It is mainly due to the implementation though.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 28 2012, 08:29 PM

I am not saying the gameplay is terrible, as to be honest, most free to play these days have very solid and fun gameplay. The whole atmosphere, graphics and the feel of piloting a huge stompy mech is awesome. The problem lies on the business model where it feels like it just want to rip your money from your wallet for some small content. Paying 20USD for a Mech isnt really acceptable for me, as this is just ridiculous. It cost more than a movie ticket, them park tickets, food and so on. Games should not be this expensive, to be honest, and these microtransaction will inflate the cost of playing a game to the point that is absurd. There are people out there who have spent 4 to 5 figures on a free to play game. If it is that case, i might as well spent my thousand of dollars on investments than putting them in a game for a few "special" mechs. I dont mind paying some money for a free to play, but the idea of paying for small contents continuously is ridiculous.

After the whole sky high repair bills, i doubt i want to play this game anymore, as it feels like they want you to buy your way out or stick to trial mechs. I understand their logic of putting this system where it is to prevent paid users steam roll free users with paid mechs and loadouts, but the implementation is terrible, im afraid. The long grind is quite painful too.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Oct 29 2012, 11:36 AM

Hawken's Deathmatch is downright awful but Team Deathmatch, Siege and Missile Control are pretty decent. I find Siege to be really fun.

You still can invest in Project CARS, but better do it quick as they might be closing funding soon.

The final game will be a full priced retail game. Originally a F2P, but the backers didnt like it, so, they changed it to selling it one off with expansions later on. There should be about 50+ unique models on release.

The game is horrible anyway. Why bother?

Mechwarrior 4 and Mech Commander 1 & 2 are free to download and play these days, might as well play those.

No campaign isn't the only issue with the game.

The problem lies on its aggressive business model to drive sales of microtrasactions while endless "founder" packs being sold. Not to mention, it is a very hostile game for free players.

If they expect me to pay up $30 just for a mech or force me to grind for one like a second job. no thanks. I'll still to mech warrior 4.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 23 2014, 09:36 PM

Fine with you doesnt mean its fine with me.

Good luck putting up the shitty business model.

Games should not be a second job. It should be fun to play without being forced to spend money.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Aug 24 2014, 01:11 AM

Putting gameplay content behind a long and painful grinding wall is forcing people to pay up. You are deliberately making the experience painful so that people will pay money for content.