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newguy2016
post Jun 9 2016, 04:50 PM

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hi guys, tumpang tanya some question about service apartment since silk also in same property type. Do anyone know how much will be your property quit rent and assessment rate?
Im been doing some research myself and found that the rate can range from rm20,000 - rm35,000 per year!

check this link:
http://www.durianproperty.com.my/classifie...Mr-Jeson-Chiew/

im actually looking to buy a service apartment around balakong and sg long but been hold back by these concern. I mean, i could deal with higher utility rate but not ten of thousand for assessment bill.

Any sharing will be good.
newguy2016
post Jun 9 2016, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(eek-1 @ Jun 9 2016, 05:00 PM)
6% of 35k = RM2k assessment tax per year.
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thanks for the information! how about the quit rent?
newguy2016
post Jun 13 2016, 09:14 AM

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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 11 2016, 09:46 PM)
I check with MPKJ already... Cukai Pintu is under residential rate because its applicable under HDA, the shops are under commercial rate. DBKL on the other hand places a different set of requirements for their Cukai Pintu, go check with each Majlis Perbandaran first but as i know under DBKL ones are super expensive for some niche areas.

Property assessment tax or cukai pintu, is imposed by your local authority on every household to finance the construction and maintenance of public infrastructure, cleaning services and upgrading works in the area under its jurisdiction. The tax is calculated based on the (estimated) annual rental value of a property (what the property can be reasonably rented for, multiply by 12 months), and then multiplied by a set of rates. This set of rates is determined by local authorities, generally at a rate of 4% for residential units and 10% for commercial property.

If a residential property’s annual rental value amounts to RM12, 000 per annum (RM1, 000 per month), the current 4% rate would amount to a tax of RM480 in a year. Annual rental value of a property varies according to factors such as market rate, location and condition of the property.

More info you can call MPKJ

If you have any questions, please email to btm@mpkj.gov.my or contact:

Name    : En. Kamarul Izlan bin Sulaiman
Unit        : Corporate Planning and Public Relation Unit
No. Tel  : 03-87377899 ext : 7009
Email    :izlan@mpkj.gov.my
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Superb explanation Xin. I will contact Mr Kamarul for further details if required. Im impressed with the knowledge that you guys had and willingness to share it. No regret to create an accounts here and keep posting.

Thanks again Xin !

newguy2016
post Jun 17 2016, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 11 2016, 09:46 PM)
I check with MPKJ already... Cukai Pintu is under residential rate because its applicable under HDA, the shops are under commercial rate. DBKL on the other hand places a different set of requirements for their Cukai Pintu, go check with each Majlis Perbandaran first but as i know under DBKL ones are super expensive for some niche areas.

Property assessment tax or cukai pintu, is imposed by your local authority on every household to finance the construction and maintenance of public infrastructure, cleaning services and upgrading works in the area under its jurisdiction. The tax is calculated based on the (estimated) annual rental value of a property (what the property can be reasonably rented for, multiply by 12 months), and then multiplied by a set of rates. This set of rates is determined by local authorities, generally at a rate of 4% for residential units and 10% for commercial property.

If a residential property’s annual rental value amounts to RM12, 000 per annum (RM1, 000 per month), the current 4% rate would amount to a tax of RM480 in a year. Annual rental value of a property varies according to factors such as market rate, location and condition of the property.

More info you can call MPKJ

If you have any questions, please email to btm@mpkj.gov.my or contact:

Name    : En. Kamarul Izlan bin Sulaiman
Unit        : Corporate Planning and Public Relation Unit
No. Tel  : 03-87377899 ext : 7009
Email    :izlan@mpkj.gov.my
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Been calling for few days and not even a single call been answer by someone from general line and ext. Did anybody actually "working" in MPKJ building? i know its puasa month but come on....pick up the damn phone call!

newguy2016
post Jun 28 2016, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(xin @ Jun 11 2016, 09:46 PM)
I check with MPKJ already... Cukai Pintu is under residential rate because its applicable under HDA, the shops are under commercial rate. DBKL on the other hand places a different set of requirements for their Cukai Pintu, go check with each Majlis Perbandaran first but as i know under DBKL ones are super expensive for some niche areas.

Property assessment tax or cukai pintu, is imposed by your local authority on every household to finance the construction and maintenance of public infrastructure, cleaning services and upgrading works in the area under its jurisdiction. The tax is calculated based on the (estimated) annual rental value of a property (what the property can be reasonably rented for, multiply by 12 months), and then multiplied by a set of rates. This set of rates is determined by local authorities, generally at a rate of 4% for residential units and 10% for commercial property.

If a residential property’s annual rental value amounts to RM12, 000 per annum (RM1, 000 per month), the current 4% rate would amount to a tax of RM480 in a year. Annual rental value of a property varies according to factors such as market rate, location and condition of the property.

More info you can call MPKJ

If you have any questions, please email to btm@mpkj.gov.my or contact:

Name    : En. Kamarul Izlan bin Sulaiman
Unit        : Corporate Planning and Public Relation Unit
No. Tel  : 03-87377899 ext : 7009
Email    :izlan@mpkj.gov.my
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I manage to called up and I get a different answer from MPKJ. The person who answered my call is Miss Mahirah from Jabatan Penilaian.

The bad news:
She confirmed that all service apartment will be charge under commercial rate at 8.8% x Nilai Tahunan.
When i ask for example, she mention for YouCity project confirm under commercial rate.

The good news:
The Nilai tahunan are still based on 1980's rate which take YouCity as example; the yearly fees are only around RM 500 ++.
Around RM41.66 per month by using RM 500 per year.





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post Jun 28 2016, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(Fairview @ Jun 28 2016, 03:07 PM)
Thanks Newguy2016 for your information.

Finally the truth is out.  All the time we have maintained that Service Apartnment like Silk Residence the Cukai Pintu (Assessment) will be based on Commercial Rate and not Residential Rate as Service Apartment Title is Commercial Title. Unfortunately Assessment (Cukai Pintu) based on Commercial is much higher as compared to Residential.  Well the 2nd half of 2016 is coming all property owners will soon receive their billings for Assessment and no more guessing of the amount.

People like Peri .... Peri who is ultra kiasu and in denial mode and sturbbornly refuses to accept this simple fact.

The true fact prevail.

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FairView bro.
To be honest, my intention are not to proof who is right or wrong but more for information sharing so that everyone understand and make the best decision on their purchases.

At least we know that its not a blood sucking amount numbering to thousand's per year.

So for me, RM 500 ++ per year are still manageable even though its more expensive by 30 % - 50% compare to residential rate?

Im been looking to invest for project like Landmark, Saville , YouCity, Resident etc. Service apartment type also.....sien nia.
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post Jun 28 2016, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Jun 28 2016, 03:50 PM)
you intention is good. but we do know what is his or her ultimate ill intention behind.

i think might be missed the ship now regretted did not buy any last time those kind of jelly thing
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Hi Peri-peri,

Since you are here, could share with me also the current utility rate for Silk Resident? agak-agak higher by how much?

Thanks in advance.
newguy2016
post Jun 28 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Jun 28 2016, 04:04 PM)
BTW, anyone is submitting interest to purchase the extra car park for sale @ CHS?

RM20k with 10% rebate. High or not?

They have yet called me to tender
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hmm.gif hmm.gif

Just divert the topic abit, last month SA for Landmark@Sg. Long giving extra 2 car park for unit level 28 - 38.

Its from the same developer if not mistaken.

Quite tempting for me to book a unit....but again...its a service apartment.
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post Aug 4 2016, 08:53 AM

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Is the workmanship from CHS really that bad? my gosh. CHS are like launch few project at the same time. Really worry for all the buyers.
Its not like more on-going project, the quality will get better kind of thing. Worse is, its the other way round.
newguy2016
post Aug 7 2016, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(applebee @ Aug 7 2016, 12:16 AM)
It is RM2.84 per m3.
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Just check this link: http://www.syabas.com.my/consumer/water-bill-water-tariff

Do you need to pay the minimum bill of RM 36.00 under commercial rate?
Beside i dont think SA is entitled for the free first 20 m3 water by Selangor gov right?
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post Aug 7 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ Aug 7 2016, 09:46 AM)
Is Silk Residence under service apartment category?

all service apartment under commercial tariff. Pay more for TNB electricity rate.

if Under Tariff B (Low Voltage Commercial Tariff) is 32.3 sen/kWh

Under Tariff A (residential/domestic) is from 21.8  sen/kWh

which means extra 48% more expensive compared to normal residential rate.

u may refer to your TNB bill for your Tariff.

Wonder why people want to buy service apartment that is outside CBD area.
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This is the trend and if you look at all the development along the highway and mrt project. Most of it under commercial title.
Beside it hv chance to change it to residential rate. It just a matter of how and when.

Some statement in the market saying " if a residence is under commercial title, once there is 60% occupancy of that said property, the developer can apply for changing the utilities fees to follow residential rate.".
Need to further clarified.

This post has been edited by newguy2016: Aug 8 2016, 05:02 PM
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post Aug 9 2016, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 9 2016, 09:40 AM)
rm 6 per month, quite standard. i received the bill last month
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Great! the bill only minimum charge only 6 ringgit.
Bout the minimum billed of RM 36.00 refer to Syabas rate table.
Beside, its a question and not a statement.

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post Aug 9 2016, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Aug 9 2016, 11:52 AM)
i see, no problem bro. we share share here.  flex.gif
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Im almost done with my research on this SA property type.
Now only left the TNB rate confirmation, then I could decide and consider my purchase.
Its really take alot of my time to consider the trade-off of higher cost setback vs location, affordability, potential growth etc..
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post Aug 27 2016, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(brianklc @ Aug 27 2016, 02:23 PM)
I feel very surprised tht Fairview come here and attack but defend Shamelin Soho till last drop of blood...
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Hahaha. You also notice that. Beside i think SS also under commercial title with leasehold. The leasehold not even 99 year also if not mistaken.
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post Dec 7 2016, 09:45 AM

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If not mistaken, 1 or 2 project will be vp by next year or early 2018 along that stretch of hw.

Its not a choice matter now, its do or die.
Owner need to grab what ever tenant available in market now before the next supply hit the market.

I think it will be good if someone can offer a piece of advise to those owner that are struggling with limited holding power. Any other option for them instead of choosing mr black?

Note: im not a owners in Silk resident. just an observer in prop around this area.

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post Dec 9 2016, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(tikaram @ Dec 7 2016, 10:08 AM)
It is suicide act rent to trouble maker Mr black bcs good tenant will run to development that don't have trouble maker mr black n this further depress rental growth.
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Can I know what is the usual problem with these type of tenant? Im really green in this area.

Crime? noisy? used to harass other female resident? damage to property?

Based on what i heard from my friend, its really depend on luck also thou finding a good one will be tough.

1st story - rented to a China Chinese students near UCSI. Police come and busted the group for doing credit card frauds in da house. Luckily owner can provide all the doc for rental and able to escape charges.
Moral of da story: not only mr black will cause problem to owner.

2nd story- rented to an african family. No prob at all and good pay master for 2 years now if not mistaken.



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post Dec 14 2016, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(peri peri @ Dec 12 2016, 04:18 PM)
8 Jan 17 will have first agm to select Committee.

Is ur tnb bill every month min charges RM2.78 only?
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The bill stated the tariff A - Domestic Tariff with the minimum bill at RM 3.00.
Very very good news to the owner!

Seem like CHS really able to kao tim and convert the rate to residential rate.

Beside, wish you all the best on the coming AGM.

 

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