and dares is one of those bad apples of his kind~

haha yes it is!!!
sometime i can sense my passenger start find something to grab on.
and i will start slowing down

ok lets stop here

YESSS~~!!

kumbang hamsap tua

No need to change anything. I learnt new things with the GaGa Evil Twin. He went added fender bar + ARB, and now his car handle better than my car liao. According to our discussion, 3MAX extra 2 point that hooked on fender should work similar as ULAR fender bar, but with 3MAX, we got it as a package with less rigidity but totally discounted the risk of door cannot open if hit into accident. So, I give an extra star to 3MAX. As of what fender bar does, sendiri baca

Disagree with ULAR ARB waste time waste money saying(used to think that too). It has its function and do help in handling under FULL TORSION STRESS. Sapu corner at 80kmh, pulling side brakes, gymkhana, all these needed a proper ARB in place to achieve better timing. However, agree with the waste time waste money saying when I'm not using it(which 99% of the time is true I'm not using the bar at all). Besides, ULAR designed the ARB to hook UNDER the torsion beam with out flexibility....hmmm.... will it tear the torsion beam?

He didn't convince me to put. I put poison in myself. Both are safety reason. I was going to sleeve my fender, but totally forgot that's my major directive and went install bars

Can not use. Give it to me.
CAN LAR!!! NO SIDE EFFECT!

Err... the engine oil sensor hor, as long as got oil pass by it will not send signal to your indicator. So, as long as there is sufficient oil to fill up your oil filter, you dont get to see the indicator light up. Just changed mine for RM20. Leaking Think last time I duck down and pretend machine savvy infront of pretty neighbor, accidently tripped myself that time TERbent the damn thing

i installed the 3max FSB & 3max RSB at the same time..
in fact prior to the installation of the bars, i did swerve left and right on road at 60kmh near the 3max factory there.. (swerve like those f1 drivers before starting any f1 race, but slow slow aje )

after that went to install the both the bars at the same time..
then immediately go do the same swerving test on the same stretch of road..

result? immediate good feeling from the handling of the car.. it feels that the car is much pointy to wherever direction i steered and the back of the car follows tightly with the front.. it feels more responsive

and on the way back to melaka.. i purposely pass by the same pot holes along Jalan Ayer Keroh after existing from tol ayer keroh.

results? prior to the bars, i always brake and go slower on these pot holes.. and it feels that the other side of the tyre that is not kena-ing the pot hole is trying so badly to get some poor grip the other side road to balance out the car from this uneven surface.. in short it means once hit the potholes, the car shakes vigorously for around 2 seconds before recovering/becoming stable again

after the bars installation, i go with a higher speed along these pot holes, to maximise the feelings felt before and after installing the bars. (i know this is bad for my absorbers, but just did it once to test)
Immediately, i can feel that the car get stabilised faster than before (maybe in 1 to 2 seconds)

my only guess (i don't know whether this is true) is that, the tyre that kena the pothole transmit all the vibrations to another tyre faster as both sides of the strut towers are connected by the bars, and therefore the bars actually transmit the vibrations to the other side of the suspension that tarak kena pot hole, and this in turn press down both tayar on the road, so both the tyres can grip the road faster.. and this is how the bars provide a better grip on the road.. not sure about how true is this, just my rough guess

anyway just go install it and feel it yourself lar..
my conclusion? definitely worth every single penny of it..

TQ very much, Bro!!
Yu juz said what needed 2b said...

And yup, there are alwaz bad apples in every basket...
So many factors come into play here, too...

So, everyone, pls alwaz refrain from going down that kinda road, ok?
Tks a meg 4all co-operation in making this thread a great healthy thread to be!!

after so many comment on strut bar...

i sked my immune system will be invaded by poison

Tks a meg, Bro...for answers 2my queries!!

Now me hv more data in my "data bank" upstairs...
The common driver needs 2select wat's good 4his own needs, True?

Hv read abt some peeps who, after getting their cars, go fix the FULL set of bars!
Feel wat they wld get wld be a very UNcomfortable car for daily use...esp so for his passengers/fmly!!

come back here

Read this with open mind. Must understand I'm not trying to criticize.

1) I buy spring from you, I went tayar shop ask him to change spring for me. Below is some of the T&C applied:
a. Bcoz you not buy spring from me, I charge RM50 instead of RM25
b. If spring got problem, need to tukar balik, I double charge. Meaning RM50x2
c. After spring got problem, or spoilt during installation, lu sendiri tanggung

2) Assume if I also buy bodykit from you, I went accessories shop ask them to hook up for me
a. Bcoz you not buy bodykit from me, I charge RM200 instead of RM0 pasang fee(dunno got that much discount from you or not?)
b. If bodykit pasang salah need to take out and repasang again, I double charge. Meaning RM200x2
c. After pasang if bodykit got pecah/senget/bad surface/cant paint, lu sendiri tanggung

Worse of all, had to trouble find a painter to paint the bodykit. Later the fella yau cum and say this and that dun wanto tanggung here and there. And I understand your problem also, ARE YOU GOING TO TANGGUNG?! But its an irony. Consumer always want the seller bear all responsibility, but they forgot the ultimate decision maker is the consumer itself. Don't get angry ya, merely voicing out a consumer thought for you

2yu, Bro!

Takes a really BIG man 2admit that he himself has bad in him!!

Me rber something our late TAR said in one incident...re stoning punishment in Islam IINM...

"Let he who has NOT sinned, throw the first stone!!"

ALL of us are NOT 100% good...and that's a fact!!

Dude, nobody able to poison you. RSB is a FEELING. People call it placebo, I call it a steel strip that link both end of the backseat support. Nobody able to give you that kind of feeling. You try my car, you try dares car, any car with RSB you try, you wouldn't feel much different anyway because you're not familiar with our car. The only time you get to shock yourself and piss with your butt hole is to hook the damn thing up your back seat, for the 1st time you move your car FUH! Then you fall in love with your car all over again

I'm the 1st guinea pig, then dares follow by Luke. Now Zeone just did a write up on previous thread V28. Just now Calvin also give his feed back. Everyone of us was shocked by the weird but good feelings after RSB being braced onto the backseat.



So, if you sked kena poison? Its easy, just forget about it. Don't even bother to try it on our cars. Because ultimately you'll put down the RM130 to try it out by yourself, and for the 1st time you drive, you'll be shouting like a mad person in the car After that you also start posting saying "FUAH!!! HOU LAN GENG AR MY ASS NOW STICK WITH 3MAX BAR!" See?! Talk so much kok also no use geh! You mah already installed firestorm? mieza was saying only change tyre until end of the M5 life, in the end within 2 weeks change ady


This post has been edited by davidke20: Aug 24 2012, 06:34 PM

GPMM belum ade Firestorm, I think he installed FSB oni IINM.

dont have yet? then its about time

dun worry, i wont blame u but for sure ur rear spring installation is mahal!!! i did my iswara ngv spring at my mechanic only rm20...

that is why i conclude everything as network, not service.

when is your time?

Yo why using me as an example

I just don't know.. After install rsb, it seems like my tyre cannot catch up with improvement.. It scare me if this improvement give false feeling.. when you think your car is safe to do it more while actually it can't.. After watching the video of accident at corner, I straight away thinking "I should change my tyre NOW.."

Hey guys.
Izzit normal that mine air con is blowing some mist every now and then?
one more thing. Mine compressor is kicking in even i didnt switch the air con on.
Is it normal too?

Aircon blowers blow out "mist" bcoz the evaporator (cooling coils) is very cold AND air flow is restricted ie too little air is passing thru those coils/passing too slowly...

Normally, me wld sayl yr evaporator needs cleaning/ blower is not operating @its correct speed ....
However, since yu said the compressor is kicking in even if yu din switch on the aircon, then probably something is faulty in the aircon system...wiring, etc.

Hv the sys checked by reliable aircon ppl.
Ok, Bro?

This post has been edited by zeone: Aug 24 2012, 08:23 PM