Hey guys, just wondering if anyone here uses a calamity with quiv's. I'm considering a switch from manticore's to cal's as I'm loving the attack speed. Any pros and cons to changing? As a lot of ppl has discussed over the blizz forums, it seems that the Archery passive for single wield bow is too small of a bonus compared to bow and xbow. Do you feel that it is very significant? Thx in advance

I might probably go with calamity + quiver set up. Quiver stats are just too epic to pass up especially with the amount of vit and CC that you can gain from it. I think the archery passive being weak relates to quiver already giving a 10% CC boost, unless a person is dual wielding crossbow's, the archery passive is not significant as it is quite easily gain from quiver and accessories as well as armor. Nat's set already provides a 7.0 bonus CC by having 2 sets so I think that is why there is a debate on the passive having a very small impact for hand crossbows which I kinda agree. I've already made a comparison on D3 calculators and definitely I'm looking at losing DPS. I see a lot of the pros but the cons, in order to not lose too much dps, I kinda need a high end Cal and by the gods, they are freakin mahal.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 11:08 amYeah, I've heard about perma stunning mobs with grenades or bola's with insane IAS output. That's what really got me interested with the Cals set up. I've actually tried it with my Windforce and eventhough it is slower in comparison, it still stunned the hell out of bosses. I can't imagine having a calamity.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 28 2012, 12:41 PM

@MOBA Thx for the vid. Seems really credible using a calamity. I love the mass spamming of grenades while hatred/ disc regens like crazy. How much IAS are you running on? The tough part is splashing out gold for the Cals. I was actually saving up to get the Mempo's with CC but I'm itching to get a calamity. Decisions... decisions.. this one's a tough call.

I still love my manticore. Damage output is big but at the same I'd love to have a Calamity as well. I think it's fun to play around with when you have both of the best. It'll be great to play around with builds when farming gets boring but 1st, have to save up. Things are just so bloody expensive these days. It's been a while since i got my 100million lottery drop.

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Added on December 29, 2012, 7:23 pmWorth the 1bill and truly an epic Cal.

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Added on December 29, 2012, 7:25 pmI still keep my 1280 socketed windforce only my scoundrel is using it. It's definitely great for solo runs. Knockback with cinder, yeah, that ones awesome. Procs like mad.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 29 2012, 07:25 PM

SS is only paper dps. You get 100% crit chance for 1 second then it goes back to whatever Crit Chance % you have. For instance if you have 20% crit chance. SS will give 100% crit chance for 1sec then it goes back to your 20% and you have to slowly wait for it to go back up to 100%. To know your real damage or unbuffed damage, try not using SS, Archery or Steady aim. Then only you will know what your real damage output is. It's better to rely on getting Crit Chance from gears. That way you will constantly crit. I would say at 40% and above. When you're at 50%, you'll only see yellow numbers.

That's a really good number but do you feel that it is sufficient? Of course most ppl would want to aim for higher cc which is well above 50%. Try to hit 50% without sacrificing CD or IAS. I'm running at 57% and I wish I could go higher but it's going to cost me quite a lot.

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Added on December 29, 2012, 8:47 pmYes, to make it simple, SS shows you your DPS if you had 100% crit chance and it only lasts for 1 second. I'm not saying SS is not useful, it actually is when you have very very low crit chance and you just started to gear up. It's ok to use SS but as you progress you will realize that you need more crit chance from gear instead so that you constantly crit. Also, SS is just a waste of passive skill. You could always use that 1 slot for perfectionist, vengence or nightstalker. All very good passives.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 29 2012, 08:47 PM

1st go to your option, then go to gameplay then look for Elective mode. Tick the box. After you've done that accept then go to your rain of vengence skill and right click. You will see that you will be able to choose any skills you want by clicking the left and right arrow.

I think it the vid Moba did with Ghom, he was using cluster bomb if I'm not mistaken. Anyway, yeah, cluster would be great with Cal for the hatred regen. That's skill takes a hell lot of hatred. I still like mantis especially when there's sufficient IAS. Sometimes when I do public runs, It's kinda sad seeing some guys using Mantis but takes so long to get one shot. I wonder how they do solos. I normally go hungering + multishot ( fire at will ). I've tried the strafe build a few times. Feels like I'm a WW DH but very nice build for XP farming no doubt. Quick and efficient.

Yeah I know it's slightly overkill, so for my trifecta amulet, I'm gonna get one with less CC as the price for lower CC is so much cheaper. That 2CC is like 20-30 million difference. Sometimes I wonder how people really price their items. 1CC = 10 mil. I would probably stick around 55 max. For some reason I still feel that I don't crit often enough but maybe its just me.

I think DML would be the better upgrade. Amu prices ranges too randomly. I'm actually waiting for a good deal. Don't want to buy by mistake. Luckily we have diabloprogress to make comparison or else too much math to do. These days, I'm more careful with what I buy. Funds are hard to come by. I've made to many bad buys in the past.

Looking good really. What is your current hp and armor? 150 unbuffed is pretty good even for mp3 speed farming. I like bola shot but for fast farming, u would want to multi hit instead and if you're running mp0 or 1 with that kind of DPS, might as well go for multishot fire at will. You can practically one shot all the white mobs for sure. If you're using a manti with 2 socket, don't worry too much about CD, personally I think 40+ CC is good enough with at least 1.8 AS. Having a ring or amulet with all 3 is very unaffordable. Try to balance it out with maybe amulet with just CC and IAS or ring with CC or IAS and if you're going to use lots of hatred then maybe use bat companion for regen. Passive wise, for lower mp i wouldn't worry about using archery or steady aim. Maybe use vengeance for Discipline but if you're using 1 handed bow then go for Nightstalker as you will be critting lots and it will help you with disc regen. I use tactical vault so that i can leap and run faster for speed farming. OR You could always go DH WW build aka Strafe

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Added on December 30, 2012, 6:04 pmCan I haz your bola shot SOJ pweaseeeeeee... Anyway, lovely collection. The only thing I collect is 1 of each Legendary. Still missing a few.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 30 2012, 06:04 PM

@Bboydora

Sorry I misread there and 150k dps unbuffed with 400+ AR? It's gonna cost you and if you're going to farm, it's going to take a while. maybe try to get 80k 1st. That's more then good for mp0-1. What's your main btw?

@2890

Thx and yeah unfortunately you play on EU. What got you to pick EU server instead.

Btw, something i rolled today. Price on the AH is insanely stupid and I wouldn't pay for it but kinda of a decent roll.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 30 2012, 08:40 PM

@2890

No wonder you picked EU server. Well, won't be selling it yet. Buddy of mine is borrowing it. Pity him. Played so long Plvl60 and having a hard time getting drops and upgrades. Most of his stuff are gotten from my decent rolls.

@Bboy

Yeah I have a barb too, played till plvl11 and got really bored of it. I think if I started as a barb it would've been fun but playing DH is too much fun that other classes kinda seems boring. Good choice though

@Gecko

yeah the pic wasn't there eariler. I made a mistake and then edited it with pic. lul

I haz a sekrit that kinda gives me a drop every single run. No it's not the Alkaizer. Just a theory i'm testing that improved my droprates.

Just to show an example. My findings after I posted that Manti's. I can't super guarantee that it will rain legs but it does for me every single run.

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Added on December 30, 2012, 9:23 pmSince you showed urs, i'll share mine

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 30 2012, 09:23 PM

I kinda find it hard to agree with the MF thing. maybe it works for some ppl but if i'm rolling get this : 2 STAT ON A LEVEL 62 RARE AMULET OR RING really shows how broken MF is and it's happened to me way too many times. Btw, back to the farming legs tip. Ok this is gonna be a weird one, have you guys ever noticed some runs you do are just filled with crazy number of Elites? Well, these are special servers that have a very high density of mobs and elites. The secret is finding these servers. I theorized it based on a blue post made in the forums. He said that there are such thing as higher density servers and with that comes a better chance of dropping legendary. Now, I use Keep 2 as my benchmark. I'll do Keep 2 and finish the whole map to see how many elites there are. What I'm looking for is 4-5 Elites. Best is 5 and I can guarantee you this, you'll be seeing elites on every single map more then you normally do and monster density as well. KILL EVERYTHING coz the white for some reason drops leg. And another thing i can guarantee, you'll see archon drop like you've never seen before. Ok, 2nd theory, now i've tried this as high as mp 7 and my findings, do lower MP. For some reason, if you can 1 shot everything the chance of the leg drop is much bigger. I do mp 2 and that manti, butcher sickle and vile is dropped on that MP. Good luck and let me know ur findings.

Hmmm.. never tried arreat but sounds legit. Maybe because I've been doing keep 2 and only trust keep 2 but in a way its kind of the same thing. I'll give Arreat a try but yes, it does really make a difference for me that is. Hence why I mentioned I can't guarantee legendary because it still a lottery thing but it works for me as I get a drop or more every single run. Maybe 1 or 2 without any but the number of elite and density of monster is 1 can guarantee for sure. I can relate to my friend who's tried it but agreed that it's raining yellows and elites but based on just 2 runs he didn't get any legs. Still luck based but I think it's better chance at getting legendary.

Yeah I believe based on the game guide, MF increases the chance of a player getting a 6 affix item and If you miss that one the item generator will proceed to drop it to the 5 affix and so on but with full MF, getting 2 affix on a rare is downright ridiculous. It's like getting a BLUE! That kinda drives me mad. I've never done the amy/ ring collection but my crazy friends filled up 1 whole tab of unid amy/ rings. He went on a rage when not single rolled decently. lul

I remember reading on the netstat thing and yeah I've tried it. Never worked for me but some ppl claimed that it works. Some guy actually made a huge marathon run and reported his finding based on what he believed as lottery server. Never made a difference for me though but yeah, this theory works for me. Gonna try arreat, much shorter run compared to Keep 2. Btw, I'm going to try that theory and kill Azmo. Worth a shot.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 30 2012, 10:24 PM

I started as a DH I meant if i started barb 1st then maybe i will find it fun but when I started a new barb character, I could only play till plvl 11 coz i found it quite boring as i much prefer the vaulting and kiting that DH does best.

Calamity is good but for a start maybe a socketed Windforce? It's cheap for a good dps range and prices are dropping pretty extremely. I got my 1280 socketed windforce for 9 million just to play around with it.

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Added on December 31, 2012, 4:17 amHell yeah. I remember when we were once glass cannon. It took more skill after patch 1.02 when they nerfed smoke screen. We had to vault and kite like crazy. Everything one shotted us no matter how much resist we had. It was all skill and it was damn fun

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 31 2012, 04:17 AM