The "Adds x% elemental damage" on the SoJ or whatever other gears contributes to the non-elemental range of the weapon. So u won't benefit that much if u're using a manticore (smaller range compared to a black weapon)

hope that helps!

if u r on a budget, change helm to andi visage, if u r not, go for mempo.

Other parts are pretty okay and is about getting similar ones but with better rolls.


let's go one at a time since upgrading is never cheap..

1. Quiver - DML or Danetta as offhand
- Determine whether you want to use HA or Bola and find a quiver with HA or Bola bonus. Cluster arrow reduction is also very sexy.
- Always try to get 20% AS on the quiver.
- Get a quiver with +DISC or double roll on DEX and VIT

p.s: I think 1H + quiver combination is the lousiest of all. So try to get a Danetta with OS as the offhand. One with + DISC, socket, DEX and base CHD.

2. Solace combination
- IMO, the best combination here would be Bloody Footprints + Embrace
- For Natalya Boots, get one with DEX and VIT if possible
- For Embrace, you have two option but make sure you sync it with your DML:
i) If you decide to get +DISC on your DML, you also get +DISC on your embrace
ii) If you went with double roll on DEX and VIT on your DML, you get +AR on your embrace

3. Pants / Belts / Bracers
- Basically, there are a few choices here. Depth diggers/Rare pants + The Witching Hour + Lacuni combination, inna's temperance + Inna's favor + Rare Bracers combination.
- What you wear here is determined by your weapon (calamity or manticore)
i) If you chooses to use calamity, the +% elemental bonus and dex bonus from inna's set would benefit you more. So get inna's temperance and inna's favor if you go for calamity since AS is not a problem here.
ii) If you choose to use manticore, a pants with as much DEX, VIT, AR and 2OS is preferred. Here, you get Lacuni and TWH belt (for more AS).

p.s: Some rares roll extremely high DEX, VIT, AR and 2OS.
p.s.s: The DD + WH + Lacuni combination is much more expensive than the later.

4. Rings / Amulets
- Since i'm a manticore user, i always go for the following combination on rings if possible and if my EHP allows me.
+ xx-xx dmg
+ DEX
+ 8/9% AS
+ <4.5CC

Bonuses like AR on rings and amulets are welcome. If you like set/legendary items, the wailing host is a good ring (my personal favorite)

5. Gloves
- Get trifecta gloves if possible but is gonna cost. If you can't afford it get one with either the following two combination AS, CC and CHD. I think this is determined by what weapon you use again.

6. Shoulders
- Current BIS is Vile Ward.

7. Helms
- Current BIS is Mempo of Twilight


This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 18 2012, 02:03 PM

don't change ur belt. Change ur helm first. Your manticore DH needs more AS.

lol no need la.

Let's get this to 2.5k post and we start a new version with better organization of the thread. Now damn messy la..

Places for DH that you can get LOH:

1. Weapon (LS too)
2. Amulets
3. Rings

Reasons why we don't get them (at least for me la):

Weapon:
- 3% LS manticore instead of a 100% emerald slot? I pick the later.

Amulets/Rings:
- We want trifectas or replace AS with AR. Getting LOH on it is a waste of roll. I'm sure all DH out there wants: AS, CC, CHD, DEX, AR, AVG DMG and VIT on their amulet or rings. We can't have all so we try to get the most possible.

The main reason why we don't get LOH or LS is cuz we have op gloom. Most of us build our DH around gloom. So we get like 400 AR and that's enough when you pop gloom. Unless you go monk style on a DH, i think LS/LOH is not needed.

p.s: I have 456 AR and i sometimes can afford to slack of 2 to 3 seconds without gloom. But don't try this at home la. Some affixes rapes me without gloom.

So far i think only two DH here uses LOH and LS.

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 18 2012, 04:01 PM

do u gain much life back from the LS on your weapon?

heh, i like those town pads too. very nice farming gear i think.

I got pickup radius on shoulder, ring and bracer to pick up globes and gold easier.

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 18 2012, 04:09 PM

The best way to refill DISC and HP is through Spike Trap: Echoing Blast. Or Cluster Arrows if you have the reduction cost rolls on your gears.

but i think Traps still much much better.

275% weapon damage * 3 * 3 = IMBA.

cuz it has the lowest DPS range of the three combinations. That 20 cc boost is like paper DPS. Is like having 1k DPS manticore with 2 OS and a 1.2k DPS with 1 OS. I think the later is better cuz u're boosting REAL damage.

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 18 2012, 04:49 PM

Yeah i still prefer LfB but until i can afford a DML with -5 cluster arrow cost and SoJ, got no choice really to stick with Echoing Blast.

Besides, Echoing Blast syncs well with NS. LfB too but again, i need the gears for it.

Yeah 20AS, 10CC and 10 DISC with Bola or Cluster is what i want. Susah la.

oh one more thing, anyone can explain to me what's the difference between Anathema and Beastly Bombs?

Yeah I used to use dark cloud too for low mp farms but ditch it for LfB. Instant kill is fun.

So ur understanding is BB is scattered as anathema is focus? Hmm.. I have no clue

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Added on December 20, 2012, 7:09 pmNext Patch

DML - Poison skills deals 15% more damage

Passives:

Archery: give AS please.
Steady Aim: Needs some love. Is practically useless.
Sharpshooter: Mannnn.. How do we even fix it?

Actives:
Cluster Arrows: Pls, 50 hatred is TOO MUCH. I say 40 would be great (tho i wish we will get 30 but that's too much).
LfB needs a rework. HOTA is kicking it's ass.

Any ideas from you guys as well??

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 20 2012, 07:09 PM

Wow..

@Wlcling

Your archery buff to DW is insane!

but the steady aim, kinda cool!

DH class needs some love man. Serious need of love.

When to buy a SoJ with -5 to CA and DML with -5 to CA.

First run tried cluster bombs, not easy to aim but when it hits, very nice damage. Then tried LfB, also very nice but overall i think echoing blast much more powerful. Sigh.

Nah I don't do ubers. Just farming.

Oh btw, MF cap at 325 ka?

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Added on December 23, 2012, 11:15 pmOh btw, cluster bomb best on azmodan. I tried it I got a very good personal time(62sec) with grenadier, SoJ and DML.

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 23 2012, 11:15 PM

eh sure ka 300? why i see 325? yeah on MP1. I even went to buy a lacuni with MF + pickup radius for 5mil. Then realize the MF i have still same regardless of the lacuni.

but yeah, i tried multishot is fun. i remember you using it last time as well.

and yeap echo blast with gloom is sick. My only complain is echo blast has a delay and sucks on moving targets.

That's mine. Try to get a better one. The +9 disc annoys me A LOT.

cold dmg? NICE!!! if u have no other elemental bonus. The cold damage gives a snare effect. Never had luck with Cold dmg SoJ. Normally poison/holy/arcane. Please let me know whether the snare on the cold SoJ is obvious or not.

Well, do u have a spike trap SoJ? If you do, how many percent?

I have:

Spike Trap: 9% (cloak) + 12% (SoJ)

Bola Shot: 5% (DML) + 12% (SoJ)

For me, spike deals max 1.4mil and bola deals max 800k (imminent doom).

lol i never knew. I don't give a rat ass about MF.

And yeah, i'm a SoJ and DML collector as well. I have 12% to Spike, 12% to bola and -5 to CA on SoJ and -5 to CA, 5% to Bola and 14% to elemental on DML. XD

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Added on December 24, 2012, 1:45 amyeah but no slot for cull of the weak man. Can u find a slot?

This post has been edited by 2890: Dec 24 2012, 01:45 AM

Armor -> all types of amor

Select bonus vs elites then the skill you want e.g: spike trap.

If u want say CA, u can't so u select max disc and it reduce the SoJ to DH SoJ only. GL