Hey guys, just wondering if anyone here uses a calamity with quiv's. I'm considering a switch from manticore's to cal's as I'm loving the attack speed. Any pros and cons to changing? As a lot of ppl has discussed over the blizz forums, it seems that the Archery passive for single wield bow is too small of a bonus compared to bow and xbow. Do you feel that it is very significant? Thx in advance

sayang, i'm looking for a DML with multishot for the collection and would have bought it from you if i could.

If you got a DH friend, try this.

One of you go strafe: rocket storm and the other multishot: fire at will. The synergy is just so nice and gives you very efficient farming.

calamity is lovely to use... just get a cheap one and try out.. the con is you will lose dps... the pro is that it feels nicer and better discipline regen (easier and faster to crit) which means better survivability

10 CC is small? I'm not sure cuz i've never tried calamity + quiver set up. i've always been a manticore user.

The pros i think would be the very fast hatred regen and better procs with NS. The cons would be that calamity + quiver set up imo gives you the lowest DPS output as you're losing out on the DPS from a danetta's offhand.

Calamity + quiver is kinda like have more survivability from a DW as you benefit from the DML's stats but least powerful.

What's your final goal? calamity + quiver?

i'm a Cala + DML user (i think moba is another)

Pros:
faster resource regen (hatred & disc from NS passive)
higher crit chance (from Archery passive)
the best part of having insane ias is that u can almost perma-stun mobs using grenade/stun grenades (best used in conjuction with spike trap/echoing blast)

Cons:
low dps & also lower crit hit dmg (unless u go dw with open socket cala + danetta @ rare hxbow with open socket)

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Sophien...1/hero/12557910

guyz, may i ask, should i go for inna favor and temperance or DML ?

if inna change means i will forfeiting around 330 vitality, with my current hp ard 65k i am afraid it will drop...

2.) what does the 8% holy damage mean? does it worth much ?

thanks...

Oh, simple.

Get a inna's favor with AR roll on it. Try to get one with 8% elemental bonus. Don't settle for 7% as maybe in the future you're gonna change it again. Long story short, u're saving more money by getting the 8%.

Then, get an inna temperance with VIT instead of AR as it tends to be cheaper as well. Again, don't settle for 8% AS. Get one with 9% AS. The pants roll either >100 dex and <100 vit or <100 dex and >100 vit. I think more VIT better.

DML maybe can wait once you get the pants upgraded. I personally think you should first focus on the temperance.

8% holy damage adds to your overall black/non-elemental damage. So that's quite a lot since you are using a Calamity (black weapon)

thanks again for your advice...
checked in AH, cost around 50 M to get a decent one..

don use sharpshooter..you don gain dps from it..
that skill is the worst ..even worst then steady aim..
just a thought...

I might probably go with calamity + quiver set up. Quiver stats are just too epic to pass up especially with the amount of vit and CC that you can gain from it. I think the archery passive being weak relates to quiver already giving a 10% CC boost, unless a person is dual wielding crossbow's, the archery passive is not significant as it is quite easily gain from quiver and accessories as well as armor. Nat's set already provides a 7.0 bonus CC by having 2 sets so I think that is why there is a debate on the passive having a very small impact for hand crossbows which I kinda agree. I've already made a comparison on D3 calculators and definitely I'm looking at losing DPS. I see a lot of the pros but the cons, in order to not lose too much dps, I kinda need a high end Cal and by the gods, they are freakin mahal.

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Added on December 28, 2012, 11:08 amYeah, I've heard about perma stunning mobs with grenades or bola's with insane IAS output. That's what really got me interested with the Cals set up. I've actually tried it with my Windforce and eventhough it is slower in comparison, it still stunned the hell out of bosses. I can't imagine having a calamity.

This post has been edited by Deckard Cain: Dec 28 2012, 12:41 PM

You may ask me again tonight, thks.

I am Calamity + DML DH.

tried Manticore 2Slot but changed to Calamity not long ago.
after switched to Calamity u will never switch back

using Echoblast + Bolashot(stun) .
most the Elite just permanent stun there and die~

thank you ...arikato...terima kasih....kam sia...toh cheh neh.....

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Added on December 28, 2012, 2:20 pmbut do remember u only stun 1 mobs (bola shot rune ball lightning)at the time if use bola
in high mp i think its not very good practice..

On uber yah it work very well..loving it ..like mcdonald

but for higher mp7 or mp8 try use volatile if u have 40% cc and above
u can almost perma gloom for better survivability.




This post has been edited by lksing78: Dec 28 2012, 02:20 PM

wanna ask, 1OS dex manticore better or 2OS int manticore?

for the same dps I find 1 os manticore cheaper.
end game of course high dps 2os manticore better.

in your case I would think the 1 os manticore better since the 2os is int roll. do the dps calc check

This post has been edited by wlcling: Dec 28 2012, 02:40 PM

to stun more than 1 mob .. use Grenades/Stun Grenades
Throw out three grenades that explode for 95% weapon damage as Fire each.
Hurl grenades that have a 25% chance to Stun enemies for 1.5 seconds.
with high ias from Cala u can stun a lot of mobs by throwing grenades around u used properly with EB will also give enough Disc to perma gloom (GT + Gloom + SG + EB = no kiting lolz)

The vid features my DH throwing grenades, blasting Cluster Arrow once per/sec and perma-gloom with the help of kalamati. See if you like it or not!

By the way, I use Perfectionist instead of Archery in mp10 games.


This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Dec 28 2012, 02:57 PM

i'll trade one of my kidney for your Cala moba lolz j/k great vid btw

moba calamity i use it my dream only...lol

mobo, can't peep your calamity at your profile.
Please show me your weapon.