hmm.. took a while to figure out how to put this.

Well, first things first, you need to decide whether u're going:

1. Dual Wielding 1H DH or
2. 2H Crossbow with Quiver or
3. 1H with Quiver or
4. Bow wit Quiver

Then, u figure out whether you wanna go glass canon, hybrid or tank DH. (You fix your AR here base on your choice)

Once you figure out what you want there, your gear requirements changes.

If you're talking active/passive skills wise. Also depends on how you want to equip your DH. So, the type of weapon dictates what type of gears you get but your style dictates what type of weapons you get.

Then IAS is your best friend. You can check out Shin's DH. very tanky and if is too much for you, drop some AR.

HA is good for low MP levels where you can one shot the mobs but Bola shot is better on higher levels and some say users (not sure about that).

Shadow Power Gloom is a must unless u're a monk or barb tanky la.

Rapid fire? hmm, don't think anyone here would use that skill for a hatred spender. Plenty out there that does more dmg that rapid fire.

I don't know much about caltrops or spike traps. I think wcling and wkkay uses them. Maybe later they'll give you some insight on the skills.

Don't worry about it. Enjoy the DH if you ever roll one.

I got a question here but please don't take it personal.

You as a DH player, we know our gears are expensive but the the thing is, when i see a barb or to some extent wiz gears, they look decent but the DPS is very high.

Can someone tell me why? My guess would be either i don't know much about the gears or there's some hidden skills that makes their DPS boost. OR is it something else???

There's some idiot on the EU server buying all the top notch manticores and reselling them from 2.5b to 3b each.

Don't use a NAT slayer for off hand. Danetta is better at the off hand. I don't think is going expensive now. 1k DPS, + dis, socket and base crit shouldn't be expensive.

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Added on November 8, 2012, 3:41 pmYeah but the hardcore DW in Europe always argue that DW is much more fun and better. Well, if you have IAS to go with the Manti, than u'll gonna beat any DW out there. Plus, the DML gives you so much VIT and bonuses that you can't ignore.

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 8 2012, 03:41 PM

Glad to hear that. The EU community here are also bias towards manticore but some are using DW. Check this dude out, on my friend list and he loves the DW build. Can't stop championing it. http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/prod-2134/hero/14982274

The thing with DW is that it heavily favors hatred regen and disc regen with the NS passive. I don't know about the damage range yet as i've yet to use one but i feel manticore kicks DW build anytime of the day due to the much more solid damage output. Don't be fooled by a DW having more DPS on paper than u if u're using a manticore because CC is also factored into DPS. My feel with DW is that the DPS is there is base on a hypothetical DPS and the manticore is too but to a lesser extent.

Hmm, very hard to answer that. Do u mean like left click attacks? Different mobs have different HP as well.

Well, you should really upgrade your quiver. That's the biggest gain you can gain so far. And one more thing, if u're insisting on going DW or 1H with quiver, make sure you get as much average damage possible on rings and amulets. I see lots of dual wielders in europe using rings with IAS, CC, DEX and smth else but not average damage. Don't do that.

You can stack the nats set so i think is higher than 77.

I think AS of 2.5 is just nice. Don't need to go above that. Well, that's what i see most DW users in Europe go for.

Very nice calamity you have, how much does it cost?

199 sounds fair to me. Well, i'm at 2.08 AS and i stun ubers no problem.

Wow, invested in mempo and vile ward first. Nice.

Well, which choice really depends on your play style. With option 2 you are probably gonna have the lowest damage of all 3 options but the highest CC. Option 1 gives you the fasters AS and option 3 gives you raw dmg.

Just so u know, manticores users are not slow. I'm at 2.08 AS. Don't think that's slow. Is just that you have to focus on AS more than others.

Normally, i'll tell you to upgrade your quiver first but here i think your boots should go first. Try to get the 2p natalya set for the 7 percent CC. DML try to get with 20IAS (with disc even better).

Rings if u go manticore, get them with average damage, IAS, CC and DEX. I think CD here is the least important because CD give on rings are very little. Amulets swap IAS with CD.

p.s: Your WD is very very nice. The carving knife i know is very expensive !

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 9 2012, 11:43 AM

Nah, is a pleasure to help another fellow DH. We should reclaim our spot as the most imba hero like our days during before AS was nerf and nether tentacles nerf as well..

Well..

1. Well, yeah get the NAT shoes with the cloak is cheapest combination cuz if u want to go with ice climbers and yet get the 7percent CC, you probably need a NAT ring and a nice one is going to cost a lot. Get vit on the boots as well. It'll help out eventually.

and besides, once u start crafting hellfire rings, u're probably gonna use it for the bonus exp. A NAT ring with CC, IAS, DEX and Average Damage is gonna cost a lot. My current ring (the wailing host) with those stats with 4 percent to elite is 120mil only. So yea, don't get the NAT ring unless you have gold to burn.

2. DML with 20 IAS and disc if possible. Oh, before buying your DML, u need to decide whether u want to use Bola Shot or Hungering Arrow. THen buy the DML with either Bola, HA or Elemental Arrow bonus. Unless you wanna go with entangling shot la.

3. Yeah, am a fan of average damage as well. Gives you insane DPS. I think unless we have billions CD comes last on rings cuz a CC and CD ring with say 30 CD is not as good as a ring with CC and IAS for a manticore user. We can pump CD using a 2 socket manticore =)

4. Oh, get the NAT clock with Disc.

p.s: Man, your WD is very very nice. I'm thinking of rolling one as well. That WEP alone is already mahal. I think 800mil minimum right?

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 9 2012, 12:24 PM

Oh btw, if you like IAS and damage, you can check my build. Is heavily geared towards IAS but kinda low on the CD part.

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Added on November 9, 2012, 12:28 pmAhh, on the EU server, the prices are crazy for that knife.

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 9 2012, 12:28 PM

Hungering? hmm, the most t expensive bonus on a DML. Haha.

Yeah, i bought that witching for 265mil.

Well, i'm trying to save up on a 1.2k 2 socket manticore as well. Cost too much.

Good luck with your DH.

You're a litany fan. I'm a wailing host fan. =)

Yeah, agree the ring is not worth the investment. And Embrace is good. Don't really see other alternatives to embrace cuz of the disc on it.

ANy lacuni users?

Boy upgrading from this point onwards is gonna be costly. I was confuse between witching hour and inna's as well. I don't think you need the witching hour as you hit as fast as i do but this is tricky because you have no CD on your amulet.

On belts, don't get the WH just for the sake of it.

Ever considered dropping NAT reflection to get The Wailing Host? (AVG DMG, DEX, CC and IAS) - my favorite. If you do not want to change that, maybe upgrade your embrace.

But at this point, is dangerous to upgrade cuz each upgrade is gonna be costly. If u're gonna buy smth, make sure you think how that piece is going to go with your other parts. Don't think of it as an individual piece but as a group instead.

Worth getting? I already have 24percent MS. And a DEX/VIT with 5.5CC or DEX/AR with 5.5CC is so expensive.

@wKkay,

Are u using Lacuni? Seems like it since u're using DD as pants. Or how do u maintain 24 percent MS?