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 Demon Hunter V2, Patch 1.05 - More survivabilities!

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MOBAJOBG
post Nov 26 2012, 12:48 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Nov 26 2012, 02:59 AM)
Yeah, that reason is why I go for tanky build.. less kiting, more shooting (since kiting = 0 damage dealt regardless of your dps)
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I'm learning much from your DH build selection and is constantly improving my own DH in the process; Thks, appreciates it lots for the crash and impactful course!

Tonite, I'll swap out Vault -Tumble (which was hardly used at all) with Sentry -GT for just Boss and uber kill objectives only ...hehehe. Perhaps, I might consider to try Companion -Bat instead of Boar in another kill test to generate sufficient supply of hatred to produce sentries timely.

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post Nov 26 2012, 03:40 PM

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Why not just use punishment?

I'll try this MP10 diablo/azmodan madness soon.

P.s: I need a 100mil loan..
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post Nov 26 2012, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 26 2012, 03:40 PM)
Why not just use punishment?

I'll try this MP10 diablo/azmodan madness soon.

P.s: I need a 100mil loan..
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Thks for the tip!

Preparation -Punishment to the rescue of full hatred restoration in an instant hopefully, my DISC replenishment can keep up and support it in addition to the spamming of perma-gloom continuously else got to find a 20% ias DML in gAH or RMAH to do the job.

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post Nov 26 2012, 07:41 PM

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Hi guys,

Remember we have a DH here using a LS manticore, I wanna ask is it worth it? The life steal. Please advice!
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post Nov 26 2012, 07:49 PM

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BS is better if you use manticore , calamity for HA ?
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post Nov 26 2012, 07:59 PM

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Anyone tried spike trap sticky trap farming? How's you guys' experience, i used it for today's farming, quite fun actually when a group of mobs surrounded me, i just stick a trap or 2 to random mobs and when they died, kabooooommm!!! lol...
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post Nov 26 2012, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 26 2012, 07:41 PM)
Hi guys,

Remember we have a DH here using a LS manticore, I wanna ask is it worth it? The life steal. Please advice!
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Damn hell its worth it... no need gloom much...
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post Nov 26 2012, 09:10 PM

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guys does chance to stun on hit stack with thunderball from bola shot ? coz i wanna stun lock ubers haha
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(MOBAJOBG @ Nov 26 2012, 12:48 PM)
I'm learning much from your DH build selection and is constantly improving my own DH in the process; Thks, appreciates it lots for the crash and impactful course!

Tonite, I'll swap out Vault -Tumble (which was hardly used at all) with Sentry -GT for just Boss and uber kill objectives only ...hehehe. Perhaps, I might consider to try Companion -Bat instead of Boar in another kill test to generate sufficient supply of hatred to produce sentries timely.
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Haha, I'm improving mine too by looking at others. Currently aiming at these two players as my target:

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/revrac-.../Revrac/3316454
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/beast-1...arless/17456233

Crazy, crazy stats they have.

Anyway I've tried MP10 Azmodan once, around 2m 37s.. can't beat your timing sad.gif

And I went to try tanking two MP10 packs at once.. and it's crazy, I can't survive. Need more EHP cry.gif

It was

Succubus Champ Pack with Reflect Damage, Frozen, Descrator, XXXX
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Phase Beast Champ Pack with Fire Chain, Health Link, Avenger, XXXXXX

Forgot the last affix of the packs. Tankable but have to kite when 3 stack of Descrators; also if kena chain-frozen and gloom expires + trap's gone = instadeath. cry.gif

This post has been edited by polarzbearz: Nov 26 2012, 10:34 PM
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Nov 26 2012, 08:14 PM)
Damn hell its worth it... no need gloom much...
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Only 2.2.. Big difference?
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Nov 26 2012, 10:12 PM)
Haha, I'm improving mine too by looking at others. Currently aiming at these two players as my target:

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/revrac-.../Revrac/3316454
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/beast-1...arless/17456233

Crazy, crazy stats they have.
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Dayum! shocking.gif That's gonna cost USD 3000 to build i guess. hmm.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:45 PM

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To achieve such EHP, you have to sacrifice the following:

1. Attack Speed
2. Discipline

I honestly believe an EHP ranging from 500-600k is enough. The mitigation from your HP, AR, gloom and GT is and should be in the 90% region easily.

I mean, if u're gonna stack that much EHP at the expense of (1) and (2), do you longer see the purpose of playing DH? No proc? no disc pool, hence just tanking hits. no that fast shooting feel. Is that what you really want?

I know is a matter of choice and this is just my opinion on the way i want to build my DH. No offense intended.
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 26 2012, 10:45 PM)
To achieve such EHP, you have to sacrifice the following:

1. Attack Speed
2. Discipline

I honestly believe an EHP ranging from 500-600k is enough. The mitigation from your HP, AR, gloom and GT is and should be in the 90% region easily.

I mean, if u're gonna stack that much EHP at the expense of (1) and (2), do you longer see the purpose of playing DH? No proc? no disc pool, hence just tanking hits. no that fast shooting feel. Is that what you really want?

I know is a matter of choice and this is just my opinion on the way i want to build my DH. No offense intended.
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I like your opinion thumbup.gif DH is about insane DPS or DPS machine, only when they want play solo farming at higher MP only need EHP build, 500K - 600K should be in comfort zone already. I'm still ~400K ish cry.gif how to reach polar bear's level?
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post Nov 26 2012, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(dante1989 @ Nov 26 2012, 09:10 PM)
guys does chance to stun on hit stack with thunderball from bola shot ? coz i wanna stun lock ubers haha
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no point to invest in additional stun... better u increase attk speed into your existing 35% chance to stun...

QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 26 2012, 10:19 PM)
Only 2.2.. Big difference?
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ya....

for low mp farming... no need gloom at all... save your disipline for perma vaulting

for high mp no need waste gloom much on trash mobs
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Nov 26 2012, 10:59 PM)
no point to invest in additional stun... better u increase attk speed into your existing 35% chance to stun...
ya....

for low mp farming... no need gloom at all... save your disipline for perma vaulting

for high mp no need waste gloom much on trash mobs
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but i think LS only gonna benefit HA users. The delay on bola is aduh...


Added on November 26, 2012, 11:02 pm
QUOTE(trunksku @ Nov 26 2012, 10:56 PM)
I like your opinion  thumbup.gif  DH is about insane DPS or DPS machine, only when they want play solo farming at higher MP only need EHP build, 500K - 600K should be in comfort zone already. I'm still ~400K ish  cry.gif  how to reach polar bear's level?
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I have 500k and is comfortable enough to do like mp6 solo without GT. I think with GT, you can push it another 2 ranks. If you wanna follow polar, drop some AS then and compensate it with AR and HP.

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post Nov 26 2012, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 26 2012, 10:45 PM)
To achieve such EHP, you have to sacrifice the following:

1. Attack Speed
2. Discipline

I honestly believe an EHP ranging from 500-600k is enough. The mitigation from your HP, AR, gloom and GT is and should be in the 90% region easily.

I mean, if u're gonna stack that much EHP at the expense of (1) and (2), do you longer see the purpose of playing DH? No proc? no disc pool, hence just tanking hits. no that fast shooting feel. Is that what you really want?

I know is a matter of choice and this is just my opinion on the way i want to build my DH. No offense intended.
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Well said! thumbup.gif Going for EHP certainly limits the cap of the achievable DPS due to the lack of ASPD / Crit Chance in some items, and also the max disc.
But since everyone will have different preferences, can't say much on it as long as it's to each of his/her own. laugh.gif
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post Nov 26 2012, 11:25 PM

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My DH has managed to make a Diablo kill in 9 mins too and so, there is no urgency to buy a 20% ias DML yet.

The build to engage boss and uber fight is as follows;-

Active skills
Bola Shots -TB (credit goes to one of wKkaY post)
Sentry -GT (credit goes to one of polarzbearz post)
Grenades -SG
Shadow Power -Gloom
M4D -ME (credit goes to one of d3dragonslayer post)
Cluster Arrow -LoF (credit goes to one of 2890 post)

Passive skills
Archery
Night Stalker
Grenadier

Pictars screenshots are available;-

Diablo
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Attached Image perma-gloom & sentries 2x & Cluster Arrows 1x per/sec
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Attached Image My DH vital stats

Azmodan
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This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Nov 27 2012, 01:26 AM
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post Nov 27 2012, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 26 2012, 11:00 PM)
but i think LS only gonna benefit HA users. The delay on bola is aduh...
try it Bro... get a cheap 1.1k Dps manticore with ls for less than 10 mill smile.gif

bola with imminent doom..higher Dps means higher ls returns. the best thing is if u kana stun or nightmare.. your bola is still regenerating ls 2s after .. if u think about it the delay is good in its own ways..... when urgently need life instantly then use impale or cluster lfb.
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post Nov 27 2012, 12:36 AM

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Which one?

One gives me 50k DPS boost, the other 22k DPS boost.

My friend says LS on high MP is insane on a DH.

Guys????


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post Nov 27 2012, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(2890 @ Nov 27 2012, 12:36 AM)
Which one?

One gives me 50k DPS boost, the other 22k DPS boost.

My friend says LS on high MP is insane on a DH.

Guys????
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if me, i'll go for higher DPS boost one, because that's what makes Demon Hunter unique, DPS for the win, i know the LS one is seducing, If can buy both la. haha.

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