HA is good for low MP levels where you can one shot the mobs but Bola shot is better on higher levels and some say users (not sure about that).

Shadow Power Gloom is a must unless u're a monk or barb tanky la.

Rapid fire? hmm, don't think anyone here would use that skill for a hatred spender. Plenty out there that does more dmg that rapid fire.

I don't know much about caltrops or spike traps. I think wcling and wkkay uses them. Maybe later they'll give you some insight on the skills.

Don't worry about it. Enjoy the DH if you ever roll one.

wow.. pro barb rolling into dh..

anyway as for build, guess the most important skill would be gloom. dh usually don't bother LoH/LS because of this. then preparation. without discipline -> cant gloom -> die easily (especially when dealing with elites running out of disc).

common damage output would be hungering arrow and elemental arrow. ball lightning gives great aoe it's good for farming.

bola shot is getting more famous as they buff its radius in new patch.

for passive usually people use archery + steady aim for dps boost. night stalker is good for disc regen. dh just run like a chicken when out of disc

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Added on November 7, 2012, 6:00 pmi use rapid fire when lvling (<lvl60). and impale for bosses.

now i use Caltrops:Bait the Trap for dps boost. that 10% crit is pretty OP too. only condition is that when i have enough place to slot in (when there's another dh use Marked of Death i will switch to this)

This post has been edited by d3dragonslayer: Nov 7 2012, 06:01 PM

I got a question here but please don't take it personal.

You as a DH player, we know our gears are expensive but the the thing is, when i see a barb or to some extent wiz gears, they look decent but the DPS is very high.

Can someone tell me why? My guess would be either i don't know much about the gears or there's some hidden skills that makes their DPS boost. OR is it something else???

I suggest you use your 1-60 leveling time to try out all the available skills For the most popular skills, you can refer to the DH section of http://www.diabloprogress.com/top_skills/stat_heroscore_500

The basic one that everyone can agree with is anything with hungering arrow + ball lightning. These two skills are pretty powerful but more importantly, they are very forgiving when it comes to sloppy shooting accuracy

haha, bought a windforce to try mp 10....c the knock back good or no...
but my dps drop 22 k...


This post has been edited by shin6619: Nov 7 2012, 08:34 PM

wiz...
got glass cannon passive.. increase 15% Dps
also got magic weapon active skill for 10%Dps
also got familiar active skill for I think 15% Dps
... 2 active skills slots and 1 passive to increase Dps so much!

barb...
got ruthless passive... cc increase 5% and cd increase 50%
got weapons master.. something like dh's archery passive... but barbs can DUAL-WIELD! one axe one sword means 10%cc, 15% increase weapon dmg, and not forgetting the usual dual wield advantage of 15% ias... oops don't forget each weapon can socket for CD!!!
got few other passives that further increase Dps.. but not sure popular or not

DH..
archery passive...
steady aim.. 20% Dps but now that so easily aggro creeps this gets redundant in high mp farming.

see? DHs quite crappy.. luckily they can vault around for low mp farming that's all Hehe...


This post has been edited by wlcling: Nov 7 2012, 10:08 PM

i like windforce a lot, but the dps is too damn low even with 100cridmg ==
use trail of cinder to c the knock back on phasebeast elite ==
can lock the phase beast and make it dance ^^
more effective than using grenade in my opinion ==

There's some idiot on the EU server buying all the top notch manticores and reselling them from 2.5b to 3b each.

may i ask, at what dmg without SS can hit mp2 like tofu?currently at 144k with SA + A...200k can hit mp2 like tofu?if can i need to upgrade so can lvl faster >.<

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Added on November 8, 2012, 10:01 amif not, better keep the gold,since prices are dropping anyways

This post has been edited by keanoppy: Nov 8 2012, 10:01 AM

not to mention they got buffed form - wotb and archon.. more dps..

also cant underestimate monk as they got alot buff active skill - MoC, blinding flash, blazing wrath, deadly reach... MoC which is the most imba one, if one can keep spamming MoC their dps can incrase 20-30% (on avg) based on this skill itself.. so by comparing monk with others based on dps itself also not fair to them..

as for dh, the active skill can think of would be Caltrops that incrase cc & Marked of Death.. Caltrops doesn't not really suit dh playstyle since they need to vault around most of the time, and Marked of Death for me i'll only use it during party.. so basically yea.. only Achery+Steady Aim..

Thanks for all the DH sifus responses and inputs. Therefore, I've got an idea of the challenges ahead to expect by DH.

I've just started rolling a DH yesterday that certainly likes to perform frequent acrobatic Vault away from fights, lol and is L10 now ...trying to survive, so far so good.

I simply love to use caltrops, hungering arrow 2x & Impale then rinse and repeat until elite is dead. If any elites manage to come near too close for comfort then just vault away, problem solve kekeke.

This post has been edited by MOBAJOBG: Nov 8 2012, 11:56 AM

DH gears super expensive!!!!! stuck here and cannot move up oledi without hundred hundred mils...

My 1st char is a DH who is stuck playing pub games @ lower mp. Tried to play higher mp cannot survive bcos too glassy. Buying gear to improve ehp will cost me an arm & a leg, so just depend on lucky drops (recent one was a Nat Embrace with +max discpline). Switched from Manticore + DML to Calamity + DML & luvin it (faster hatred regen due to hcbow speed, higher CC from archery passive n Caltrops/Bait the Trap which in turn gives better discpline regen from Night Stalker passive) the % chance of Marked for Death is also sweeeet.

p/s: anybody got an affordable Nat Slayer with open socket for sale/trade? Wanna try switch to 2 hcbow n compare against using dml.

This post has been edited by Gecko: Nov 8 2012, 01:29 PM

Just got back to playing my DH. Took a break from D3 during patch 1.0.3.

I currently still have my old Natalya's Wrath Set that gives 2 Disc Regen. How is this armor faring now ever since they introduced MP10 and the new Natalya's Solace Set. Was thinking of selling my Wrath set and get a Solace Set.

My first toon is a DH. Currently sitting at 122k DPS w/o SS and no enchantress buff and speed farming solo MP1 only with almost maxed MF 398% after all buffs. Tried MP3, takes too long and have to kite more often so...just sticking to MP1. IMHO, farming keys it would be better using a melee ( I use my monk to farm at MP6 for keys).

As for 1 hand bows, I tried but trust me you will go back to a the manti. I have a nice set of 1k plus Dannetas with Revenge socketed. Sure the speed and the bonus to CC (I got mine to 68%CC) is great..but the damage range is just too inconsisent for me..critting at 60-180k means you may have to crit twice before a trash mob dies whereas,, with a manti..usually crits at 150k above so..1 shot crit the white mob dies.

Yep. My progression partner who is a barb gets his upgrades for 50m and less, while I'm looking at 100m for any significant upgrade

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Added on November 8, 2012, 3:01 pmWhat's your definition of tofu? Clear what route, in how many minutes?

Don't use a NAT slayer for off hand. Danetta is better at the off hand. I don't think is going expensive now. 1k DPS, + dis, socket and base crit shouldn't be expensive.

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Added on November 8, 2012, 3:41 pmYeah but the hardcore DW in Europe always argue that DW is much more fun and better. Well, if you have IAS to go with the Manti, than u'll gonna beat any DW out there. Plus, the DML gives you so much VIT and bonuses that you can't ignore.

This post has been edited by 2890: Nov 8 2012, 03:41 PM

my 1st char is a barb. then i switch to dh. damn.

jzu farm out this, juz curios is soj useful ?
reduce my dps 33kdps (17% dmg according to dps calculator), but add 25% dmg to elites ==


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Agree! but until i drop a 2 socket manti @ can afford to buy 1, i will stick to Calamity just for fast farming mp1. I myself farm keys using my WD who hv higher survivability on mp5-6. Truthfully i enjoy playing my DH more plus its less stress on the fingers too compared to my WD Back during D2 days Amazon was my fav, did all the builds from Bowazon, Javazon n Tankazon.