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post Dec 19 2012, 11:41 AM

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What are the chances of those who do not preorder to get a 920 of their own come launch day (21st or 24th?).

I've just got my first taste of the 920 in Auckland 3 days ago, and I'm liking it. Before, I took a "Wait and see" approach as I'm not excited much about Nokia but am smitten by the W8 UI. Also have asked around Nokia store in LYP and they require an RM200 deposit non-refundable for a unit, in which at that time, without a demo unit, I'm not going to pay until I had a test drive.

Since this is coming too close to launch already (I'm assuming 21st) and I've not preordered, hence the question. Anyone?
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post Dec 19 2012, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 19 2012, 06:41 AM)
What are the chances of those who do not preorder to get a 920 of their own come launch day (21st or 24th?).

I've just got my first taste of the 920 in Auckland 3 days ago, and I'm liking it. Before, I took a "Wait and see" approach as I'm not excited much about Nokia but am smitten by the W8 UI. Also have asked around Nokia store in LYP and they require an RM200 deposit non-refundable for a unit, in which at that time, without a demo unit, I'm not going to pay until I had a test drive.

Since this is coming too close to launch already (I'm assuming 21st) and I've not preordered, hence the question. Anyone?
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string, I thought you're with Jellybean? Or was it ICS? All I would say is to wait while until Nokia solves it's distribution issues. I suspect there's not much stock in the first place. I pre-ordered from Nokia Saudi and until today never received it, ended up buying it from the exclusive mobile provider here (luckily they have the sell it outright option and luckily Yellow is not a very popular color in Saudi). January is the date Nokia says that they should be able to solve the supply side problem and by then PR1.1 should be pre-installed which should fix the daylight camera issue as well and some of the Portico features.


Added on December 19, 2012, 12:27 pm
QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Dec 19 2012, 06:34 AM)
the nokia music iinm detects the simcard origin.... i believe when 820/920 officially release here, all the features should be available locally
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Correct. It says that Location must be enabled for it to work and in the terms & conditions, it will detect the simcard origin and will enable/disable Mix Radio based on the Simcard.

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post Dec 19 2012, 12:31 PM

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I'm not getting this and ditching the rest. All three will find much and equal use by me.

If that's the case, I'll try my luck on launch day, .......whenever that is.
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post Dec 19 2012, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Dec 19 2012, 07:31 AM)
I'm not getting this and ditching the rest. All three will find much and equal use by me.

If that's the case, I'll try my luck on launch day, .......whenever that is.
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Sweet, then you can be the point me for the 3 devices and ecosystem comparison. Did you get the iPhone 5 as well? Launch day is supposed to be day after tomorrow (the 21st).
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post Dec 19 2012, 12:35 PM

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iOS = iPhone 5. Android = DROID DNA. WP8 = Lumia 920.

Are they launching on 21st at Pavilion like last time?
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post Dec 19 2012, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(lkhoe @ Dec 19 2012, 11:25 AM)
I got this not so much coz its WP8 but coz this version by Nokia has better build, body, character, exclusive apps and great hardware. Can't say the same for both my S3 and Iphone4.

Playing with it for a week or so, here's what i can gather:
1. Apps are more integrated. Good example is People App combines the best of whatsapp, social networking sites, emails, and phone numbers into one convenient place.

2. Nokia apps are awesome. Together with Office, its Drive and Maps are 2nd to none and even has voice navigation no less. All free! The other stuff like cinemagraph and city lens are great to have too. AFAIK, no one else in the market has this kind of bundle.

3. Nokia Music not available in Malaysia, but I understand previous nokia phones sold here have it, so just a matter of time? My UK set removes all features once detected I'm in msia, so limited to own music you upload into it. With this app fully enabled, the 920 is da bomb.

4. Nokia Pureview is not bad, but its not to say damn good. I understand a software update is coming to rectify this issue mainly for daylight shots. Low light and image stabilization capability is the best of best.

5. My Android S3 lags quite often even after upgraded to JellyBean. 920 smooth.

6. Windows apps still lacking in quality and quantity for sure but otherwise the 920 is more than functional enough for most people's needs!

7. 920 got character I reckon. Its the color options and build quality that mostly enticed me. Iphone has very outdated design now.

8. Battery life on S3 now is very bad. Dunno, but last time my korean LG batteries got pregnant by itself. So its probably due for change.

The thing to take away is that I'd prefer a great phone that serves its purpose at doing things great. Everything else that could be done better in a tablet (I have galaxy 7.7, ipad mini and ipad2) or laptop should stay that way. Its a smartphone after all and to make it a be all and end all for everything may not be practical or desirable.
After all, how much of the stuff in the phone do we actually fully utilize anyway.
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Thanks for your in-depth insight. I share your sentiments and think you have hit the nail on the head.

I just have one question. The People App is only linkable to those with Windows phones only, right?

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Dec 19 2012, 12:41 PM)
Thanks for your in-depth insight. I share your sentiments and think you have hit the nail on the head.

I just have one question. The People App is only linkable to those with Windows phones only, right?
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No... People app/live tile basically your phone contact book
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post Dec 19 2012, 12:52 PM

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i dont get the impact of google disabling the Active Sync protocol thingy. WP8 does not support IMAP or POP protocols at all? my company's email is based on IMAP protocol...this could be a problem
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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Dec 19 2012, 12:52 PM)
No... People app/live tile basically your phone contact book
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Oh, so this is basically a special feature of the SMS function? Unlike independent social network apps like Whatsapp, etc.?
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post Dec 19 2012, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Dec 19 2012, 01:00 PM)
Oh, so this is basically a special feature of the SMS function? Unlike independent social network apps like Whatsapp, etc.?
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It takes elements of other social apps like facebook, hotmail and whatsapp, and combines it together with your phonebook into one seamless profile.

To answer your prev question, there is one feature of People hub that requires another WP8 to communicate, which is the Rooms/Group section. Like whatsapp but built specifically for windows 8 phone users only.
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QUOTE(lkhoe @ Dec 19 2012, 01:21 PM)
It takes elements of other social apps like facebook, hotmail and whatsapp, and combines it together with your phonebook into one seamless profile.

To answer your prev question, there is one feature of People hub that requires another WP8 to communicate, which is the Rooms/Group section. Like whatsapp but built specifically for windows 8 phone users only.
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Actually, you can add non-wp8 user into both Rooms & Groups, except there will be limitiation on Room feature but not Group
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post Dec 19 2012, 04:11 PM

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I don't know what the heck happened but after I updated Nokia Music, I have Mix radio .... wohooooooo!!!!! Not compalining. There is still an issue when my 920 gets really hot and the battery drains like 15% in 20 minutes while using the 3G to browse etc .... one thread in Microsoft answers says that you should open ALL apps one at a time and say yes to the Terms & Conditions yada yada and supposedly this will solve the battery drain and heating up issue. I don't see the logic in that but at this point, I'm willing to try anything. If it still fails, I'm sending this to the Care Centre and have Nokia take a look on why the device is heating up so fast and drains the battery in the process.
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QUOTE(lkhoe @ Dec 19 2012, 01:21 PM)
It takes elements of other social apps like facebook, hotmail and whatsapp, and combines it together with your phonebook into one seamless profile.

To answer your prev question, there is one feature of People hub that requires another WP8 to communicate, which is the Rooms/Group section. Like whatsapp but built specifically for windows 8 phone users only.
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Thanks. It's good to have any information which can assist towards a good decision.


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QUOTE(kuroneko0509 @ Dec 19 2012, 01:41 PM)
Actually, you can add non-wp8 user into both Rooms & Groups, except there will be limitiation on Room feature but not Group
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Thanks to you as well. The information helps.

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post Dec 19 2012, 04:31 PM

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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Dec 19 2012, 04:14 PM)
Thanks. It's good to have any information which can assist towards a good decision.


Added on December 19, 2012, 4:15 pm
Thanks to you as well. The information helps.
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hello, patrick!! moving to WP?? and yeah im the one who whatsapps you using wp.


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post Dec 19 2012, 04:49 PM

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Guys, I wanna ask is there a task manager for the WP8 ? As in like how you wanna close and application or switch an application previously open. Thanks
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post Dec 19 2012, 05:18 PM

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i have more than 10apps suspended in background and not even bother to close it. (no lag at all) if i want to go back to my earlier apps i just hit and hold the back button then scroll between my apps.

here's how windowphone multitasking work


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post Dec 19 2012, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(prash @ Dec 19 2012, 12:52 PM)
i dont get the impact of google disabling the Active Sync protocol thingy. WP8 does not support IMAP or POP protocols at all? my company's email is based on IMAP protocol...this could be a problem
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Google is also doing away with POP3. It will be replaced by self-signed certificates, I don't really know what it means, but meh.

The IMAP from Google isn't an industry standard IMAP protocol. Google has tweaked it so much that Microsoft really has to study (like Apple did) its API in order to implement a Google IMAP on Windows Phone. Standard IMAP protocols are supported on Windows Phone, that's not an issue. Google is a different beast altogether.


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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Dec 19 2012, 05:18 PM)
i have more than 10apps suspended in background and not even bother to close it. (no lag at all)  if i want to go back to my earlier apps i just hit and hold the back button then scroll between my apps.

here's how windowphone multitasking work


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On Windows Phone 7.5, you can only have up to 5 apps running at a time. 10 is a little exaggerated LOL.

Anything more than 5 will be terminated in a first open first close basis.

From 7.8 onwards, it's 8 I believe.


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QUOTE(Evirober @ Dec 19 2012, 04:49 PM)
Guys, I wanna ask is there a task manager for the WP8 ? As in like how you wanna close and application or switch an application previously open. Thanks
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There's no need of a task manager like Android requires. All apps are suspended when you navigate away, using minimal resource (simply put, not enough to impact your experience on other apps). So, you don't really need to close an app. You can keep apps running and still won't feel a thing.

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im on 7.8 and custom of course, so there's no limit. laugh.gif


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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Dec 19 2012, 05:49 PM)
im on 7.8 and custom of course, so there's no limit.  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif no wonder
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QUOTE(evilpuppy @ Dec 19 2012, 04:31 PM)
hello, patrick!! moving to WP?? and yeah im the one who whatsapps you using wp.
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Well, you actually let me lose a few hours of sleep when you did not respond to my reply. Thought I forgot about a long lost friend.

Anyway, I am presently using an S3 after a few years on iOS. Yeah, thinking of switching to Windows. And toiling over whether to get an 8X or a 920. Decisions, decisions!.

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