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jonchai
post Oct 21 2012, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Oct 21 2012, 02:11 PM)
R u also develop program other then wp platform.? Android? Ios?
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No. I have a development firm dealing mainly on web. We are also quite new to the mobile space. It is a new venture for us. So, let's just say that our track record is limited smile.gif


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QUOTE(sephirothvr @ Oct 21 2012, 07:21 PM)
share some language as c#?
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If you know C#, then WP will be a breeze rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(liverpool2020 @ Oct 21 2012, 10:30 PM)
I hope the price will below rm 2000 cause i saw the rumoured price in HK is approximate rm 2200 to rm 2400 if not mistaken
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Let's see. I expect it to hover somewhere around 2.1k. They'd be stupid not to launch it during Christmas. Then again, given Nokia's track record, it's hard to say.

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post Oct 21 2012, 11:34 PM

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Wow guys, no contract Lumia 920 only 600USD. That give us some hope for it to fall below RM2k.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_windows_phone_..._-news-4976.php
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Oct 21 2012, 11:34 PM)
Wow guys, no contract Lumia 920 only 600USD. That give us some hope for it to fall below RM2k.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_windows_phone_..._-news-4976.php
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post Oct 22 2012, 01:05 AM

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QUOTE(liverpool2020 @ Oct 22 2012, 12:49 AM)
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just for your info malaysia no 4G
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 01:05 AM)
just for your info malaysia no 4G
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so should be abit cheaper lah!
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post Oct 22 2012, 02:00 AM

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malaysia launching LTE/4G end of the year rite? Maxis & DiGi
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QUOTE(prash @ Oct 22 2012, 02:00 AM)
malaysia launching LTE/4G end of the year rite? Maxis & DiGi
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How to launch something they not even awarded.
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 06:49 AM)
How to launch something they not even awarded.
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Sooner or later they'll, they got so many potential ip5 customer waiting there. Oh wai.. This is lumia thread whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 01:05 AM)
just for your info malaysia no 4G
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I heard rumours that 4G may be coming some time early next year. Should be interesting.
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I got this from wpcentral. This is to me the clearest way of explaining "multitasking" in WP. (Don't know if this guy is telling the truth or not. Jonchai, with your knowledge of WP, would u be so kind to give your input in this?)

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1) WP allows features to multitask (not entire apps), i.e. a feature Microsoft called "background music" allowed us to play music while simultaneously using other apps. Background file transfer was another such feature. For WP8 this will be expanded to features such as background location (navigation) and background VOIP.

2) Devices with more RAM (1GB instead of 512 MB) will allow us to fast-app-switch between more than just five apps.

Both of these concepts already exist in WP7, they've just been expanded upon in WP8. Multitasking in WP8 will be no more "true" than it was in WP7.

In general, WP8 apps will not multitask. Fast-app-switching is the closest WP will get to true multitasking (this is a deliberate design decision). Unfortunately, fast-app-switching isn't something the OS can automatically provide for each app. Instead, each app must support it explicitly, but this isn't mandatory for WP7. For WP8 I hope fast-app-switching support becomes mandatory. I don't know that it will be, but I am hopeful.

From the above, I think i'll be ok with WP's "Multitasking". It make sense, if this is what it takes to keep the phone smooth and fast, I'm all for it. I just hope the developers will not let WP down.

The disadvantage of this way of multitask is as below, a real situation example.

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I was making a call from the phone app and I wanted to switch to the calendar app so I could look at an item during a call, but the OS would not allow it. In addition I ended up with the Phone app appearing in the multitasking view 3x!

I'd still be ok with this (I think).

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post Oct 22 2012, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 06:49 AM)
How to launch something they not even awarded.
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4G licenses have been issued way back in 2011 just that it can only be switched on on 01/Jan/2013

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...23&sec=business

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/...um-winners.html

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QUOTE(GuestX8 @ Oct 22 2012, 10:35 AM)
4G licenses have been issued way back in 2011 just that it can only be switched on on 01/Jan/2013

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...23&sec=business

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/...um-winners.html
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thats right. All telcos already getting their equipment LTE ready.
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QUOTE(GuestX8 @ Oct 22 2012, 10:35 AM)
4G licenses have been issued way back in 2011 just that it can only be switched on on 01/Jan/2013

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...23&sec=business

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/highlights/...um-winners.html
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oh cool but i heard the band of 4G and our malaysia is not compatible.
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post Oct 22 2012, 03:39 PM

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well, i still hope the eRing mag that estimate rdp for 920 below 1699 is true.... don we also hope so ? haha...
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Oct 22 2012, 03:39 PM)
well, i still hope the eRing mag that estimate rdp for 920 below 1699 is true.... don we also hope so ? haha...
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in wonderland perhaps sweat.gif
i would already be happy enough if it's below 1999 wink.gif
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 22 2012, 01:53 PM)
oh cool but i heard the band of 4G and our malaysia is not compatible.
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not compatible with iphone 5 4G bands.
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QUOTE(vostro78 @ Oct 22 2012, 03:39 PM)
well, i still hope the eRing mag that estimate rdp for 920 below 1699 is true.... don we also hope so ? haha...
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That's being too hopeful. But nothing wrong in hoping. biggrin.gif
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post Oct 22 2012, 09:31 PM

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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Oct 22 2012, 09:53 AM)
I got this from wpcentral. This is to me the clearest way of explaining "multitasking" in WP. (Don't know if this guy is telling the truth or not. Jonchai, with your knowledge of WP, would u be so kind to give your input in this?)
From the above, I think i'll be ok with WP's "Multitasking". It make sense, if this is what it takes to keep the phone smooth and fast, I'm all for it. I just hope the developers will not let WP down.

The disadvantage of this way of multitask is as below, a real situation example.
I'd still be ok with this (I think).
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Let's knock it off point by point.

1. It's true. WP does not exactly "multitask". Meaning, apps are suspended (using a fraction of the memory) when you switch away. There are exceptions like you quoted and on top of that, I'd like to add download / upload too. Take marketplace for example, if you're downloading an app, you move away, the app will continue to download (at the same time, keeping your WiFi connected). If you want some true multitasking like on PC, you run antivirus, play game, play song and download movies all at the same time, then WP will surely disappoint. Its multitasking is certainly restricted. Let me give you a better example, you can't Youtube and at the same time chat on Whatsapp, neither will there be a "hover" view like you can find on Note 2. But if you're downloading an app from marketplace, it will continue to download while you're chatting.

Another example will be this. If let's say in reverse, you're watching video on Youtube, your Whatsapp cannot update itself (to get the latest messages, this may change in WP8, not too sure yet) but it can receive "push" notification. On WP7 it's known as "Toast". You can always experiment this. Whenever you receive a push whatsapp notification, go turn off your data + wireless. Then open Whatsapp. You'll realize that Whatsapp is still showing your old messages. It is upon opening the app that the "core" will update itself.

This is by design. An app is separated into 2 parts. Core and Tiles. One can update independently without the other.

Suspension is by design. It places your active app in the highest priority so that it can use all resources it may need and not lag one bit.

2. Yes. This is correct. 512MB is very very limited. What you quoted is correct. Fast App Switching is the closest you can get in terms of multitasking, which isn't really bad considering that you can be where you left off. Of course, like it's stated, only if the developers aren't lazy. Actually, it's not too much work. I'd give it an additional 15 minutes to implement support for fast app switching, that's it.

For the last part, I beg to differ. Half way through the call, I found myself without pen / paper. I was able to switch out, opened up OneNote and started writing some references. Windows / Start button is the key.
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QUOTE(jonchai @ Oct 22 2012, 09:31 PM)
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Thanks man, very clear. Appreciate u taking time to explain this. From what I understand, this multitasking isn't much different from iOS. Don't think it will be a problem to me.

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QUOTE(luckyhillkop @ Oct 22 2012, 09:43 PM)
Thanks man, very clear. Appreciate u taking time to explain this. From what I understand, this multitasking isn't much different from iOS. Don't think it will be a problem to me.

Cheers  smile.gif
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Yea, it isn't too different from iOS, apart from being able to do a bit more, but that's about it.

No worries biggrin.gif

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