just bought benq ew2440l for replacement of my dell u2311h, awesome monitor, really good colour production and really good black level (VA panel) and really sexy monitor, but need to play around setting alot (gamma, rgb level, brightness, PC level input (0-255) as default setting is too bright (100% brightness on default). Really recommended monitor for budget of rm750.

no more IPS glow

con: lesser viewing angle compared to IPS panel (especially vertical view) producing color shift and reduced brightness(as expected for VA panel), no DVI output (so need dvi to hdmi adapter, but supported audio with such setup)

too bad I dont see any professional review for this monitor, just bought as a gamble, and I am satisfied with the purchase good job AUO for producing such good panel (amva+)

got for mine due to side led backlight but it is really thin bleeding only and it is acceptable (only noticeable on really dark image) sorry i dont have camera
with the price given, it is acceptable and no complain for me since there is no dead/stuck pixel , since this is mid-range price monitor for home/entertainment and mobile phone use, i dont think benq are resorting for true grade A+ quality panel, else it will be costly for them. Depend on your luck

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 3 2014, 07:26 PM

i guess maybe because it is using slim bezel, so it does not cover up the led bleeding

one more thing, just to let you know that benq malaysia warranty sux, 1 year only for panel regardless of model

http://www.benq.com.my/support/information...ty%20for%20LCDM

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 3 2014, 07:38 PM

this is professional monitor, i guess BenQ didnt ready to compete with trusted brand like dell and asus as professional monitor market is too small in malaysia.
i guess ew2440l should be a bit better after calibration as the newer amva+ panel were made for small bezel monitor and the usage of semi-gloss front coating should make colour look more vibrant and less grainy. The newer panel should provide a little wider but nicely saturated on green area producing leaf/grass/forest image quite similar to plasma panel



This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 5 2014, 05:24 PM

do a rgb-level calibration, you can use quickgamma to guide you (check on gamma 2.2, just make sure the colour behind the gamma 2.2 line are similar, blue is the hardest to calibrate) , if more accurate result is needed, use a hardware calibrator

whats is your usage, if you are use the most for general usage (and minor gaming), better to choose Dell Ultrasharp (for the best view distance and usability (height adjustment, usb hubs) and warranty), BenQ VA panel monitors (I recommend this if you want the best black level), Asus IPS (PA series). You can even use this model for image and video editing as well for the given model.
As for competitive hardcore gaming, better to buy 120hz or 144hz monitor instead (e.g BenQ Gaming series)

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 12 2014, 06:34 PM

why you didnt read my old comment, just use quickgamma, do a RGB calibration, make sure the red, gree, blue colour on gamma 2.2 range is nearly similar. instead of changing gamma level on ICC profile or windows, you change it on the rgb level on your monitor, this is the same done for TV calibration, so you can use all the application that is not ICC-profile aware (e.g Hardware-accelerated video output). All this free of charge without using hardware calibrator, but of course hardware calibrator provide much better result.

dont just take ICC profile or other RGB level configuration from other users, the ccfl/led light provided by ccfl/led backlit/edge-lit does not always produce similar colour/brightness and can be yellowish from time to time, the result is also depend on the room ambient light as well. That why calibration is recommended from time to time

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 15 2014, 03:43 PM

well TN panel is also subject for improvement as well, even though it is sucks at viewing angle, there are still room for improvement for contrast ratio, colour production (true 8bit panel), resolution and higher refresh rate (TN still king for this).

I'm still believe that the latest TN panel should be comparable or somewhat better compared to year 2010 e-ips panel. Au Optronics, Samsung and Chimei Innolux still have funding on TN panel RnD as the panel is cheap to make (lower scrap ratio compared to IPS or VA), easier to market on low-price market. Also, BenQ gaming monitor is not cheap, i'm sure the panel is expensive (which should have older IPS-panel performance in contrast ratio and colour production but at much more higher refresh rate). The new Gaming Monitor should please alot of users (especially serious gamers) except minority people who cares about colour critical work or working with wide gamut content.

see below for asus vg278he monitor, the delta value after calibration is awesome for a TN monitor, this monitor using ChiMei Innolux (CMI) M270HHF-L10 panel

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus_vg278he.htm

But if a gamers didnt mind to play game at 60hz with v-sync on which provide slower update from mouse response to the monitor, of course a monitor with IPS, PLS or VA panel is a good buy (more value for the money). Even I am impress on My monitor with 12ms native response rate VA panel handling motion and games.

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 17 2014, 03:01 AM

you got it wrong, premium panel warranty only covers bright/stuck pixel, for dead pixel, i guess you still need 7 of it however having 1 stuck pixel is really annoying , i can live with dead pixels

Anyway your old 2233w is crap anyway in today standard because during the time was marketed, monitor with good panel having a hefty price and competition were all using more crapper TN panel screen. However, TN panel are getting much more better (since they need to compete with different Panel technology now) ,If demo in lowyat plaza, some monitor that uses TN panel(not the cheap TN monitor) are producing really good picture and quite good color production, even u2312hm color temperature looks too warm, screens look too dim and missing lots of details. One monitor that really impress me were S27C750P (which use S-PVA panel), but too bad the monitor stand were set too high and the price too high.

It is still recommended to use TN panel monitor for gaming and it is used on gaming monitor due to higher refresh rate and faster pixel response, unless if some scientist able to find how to improve IPS/VA/PLS panel response rate marginally, the gaming monitor will still equipped with TN panel monitor. Since gaming monitor are expensive, it is plain wrong to put TN panel with mediocre color performance.


as for u2312hm, it is not as good as its old brother u2311h which having really good image quality right out the box, honestly calibration are seems not needed, just need to reduce the brightness and you are good to go, but too bad, u2311h only last a year in the market, maybe it is not marginal enough for dell, as for u2312hm, it is still a good buy

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 17 2014, 06:04 PM

Review come out for u2414h, looks like a really good purchase. good job to dell and LG Display for keeping performance even when using slim bezel

http://pcmonitors.info/reviews/dell-u2414h

If I wait a little while, maybe i will purchase u2414h instead of benq ew2440l VA panel monitor,but benq offering aint that bad as it good as movie watching experience were great (perform similar to good lcd tv, good black level, quite natural color after calibrate), buy either of this two monitor is fine anyway

only AH-IPS have 23.8" model, both e-ips and 6bit+frc AH-IPS are quite similar in performance (both have 14ms G2G response time and little better gamut on AH-IPS)

There are two variant of 23.8" model which is normal version (used on dell p2414- LG Dusplay- LM238WF1-SLA1 ) and slim bezel (used on dell u2414h - LG Display LM238WF2-SSA1 )

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/panel...es/sheet006.htm

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 23 2014, 06:25 PM

All your listed monitor are wide-gamut monitor, out of league (different category) for dell u2414h as wide-gamut capable to show more colours and over-saturated on standard setting.

if you already get used with over-saturated colour, u2414h or any other 72% ntsc/100% srgb (or called as standard) gamut monitor is not for for you.

stay away from u2414h if you strictly if you working on photography and using adobergb color gamut.

Wide gamut monitor will only become relevant for normal users once alot of new content are benefit from rec2020 color gamut (which even larger than adobergb gamut)

Over-saturation doesn't mean all wide gamut monitor will look bad, i once use an old wide gamut VA panel professional samsung monitor and the color more popup and more vibrant compared to my dell u2311h. Same goes with amoled display on samsung phone

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 24 2014, 04:59 AM

even displayport use 16-235 chroma?
this is sux since displayport is using VESA standard, maybe the monitor request for HDMI signal from displayport

nvidia should have limited or full rgb toggle on their driver for their premium cards

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 25 2014, 02:37 AM

Your setting is only for accelerated-video output, not for general digital signal . Even this settings can be use on limited-range RGB signal, but it will crushes the black more, for tv they will detect range 16 or below as pure black, this setting will considered other darkest non-black colour as pure black.

by default, hdmi and tv standard are using 16-235 RGB range, if the monitor is detected as TV, it will use the limited range by default. Usually monitor that using HD resolution with audio output are usually detected as TV. however any monitor that having VGA port shouldn't have problem to accept full RGB range.

the reason why they do this because not all tv are full-rgb ready (this is not within tv standard however, so manufacturer are free to choose whether they will support this as well, some tv might not show any output with full rgb signal, my cheepo panasonic tv will not show colour from range 1-15 (considered black) and 235-255 range will show the same color(for white, it will show white with same brightness) even the full-rgb signal was send by the GPU(i believe the signal sent was switched back to limited-rgb)) . Not only nvidia does this, even Intel does this (they didn't even have full rgb toggle on their driver as well).

there's a reason why the full rgb toggler (for driver registry hack) was made in first place, because there is no setting on the driver.
http://www.avsforum.com/t/1444859/setting-...-full-range-rgb

the easiest way to test whether the signal were full-rgb and the monitor/tv is viewing it as well is by viewing the image below, the range 1 -15 should show grey box, range 1 should be the darkest grey. limited-rgb signal will just show range 1 -15 as black box
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/img/blacktest.png

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 26 2014, 08:39 PM

the easiest way to test whether the signal were full-rgb and the monitor/tv is viewing it as well is by viewing the image below, the range 1 -15 should show grey box, range 1 should be the darkest grey. limited-rgb signal will just show range 1 -15 as black box. when you are applying the toogler from limited to full or vice versa, it will show different (but may need to reboot)

Also, the background should be black
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/img/blacktest.png
http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/black.php

but this doesnt mean limited-rgb are bad, plasma tv can provide image quality better than pc monitor even limited-rgb range

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 26 2014, 08:44 PM

you will not have trouble because you aware about the toggler, average joe will just plug and play monitor without any settings change. So they cannot take the full benifit of their monitor. using limited-rgb on pc monitor are plain sux as you will lost the good black-level and colour appears lighter and not as vibrant

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 26 2014, 08:52 PM

well, sometime knowledge applies as well.
a properly-calibrated cheap e-ips monitor can produce better image quality compared to un-calibrated expensive IPS monitor

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 26 2014, 09:35 PM

dell p2314h or dell u2312hm (no more in production i guess), usually dell monitor out of box is setting quite good (just need to reduce brightness level only).

but for my preference, i will fork more money for benq ew2440l (little pricey, rm719 or more)(need quite alot setting changes and eye calibration, but the result is awesome)

This post has been edited by zerorating: Jan 31 2014, 08:52 PM

no, there is no vesa slot for using vesa stand either

yes, sorry for my mistake, from the image in google image the stand looks fix,
you need to find a good swivel vesa stand. try seeking in aliexpress if you are not able to find locally

This post has been edited by zerorating: Feb 5 2014, 11:12 PM

if your table is thick and heavy, maybe you could try with VESA Desk Mounts instead.
the stand and mount is not cheap, now we know why dell monitor are more expensive compared to other brand, they provide good monitor stand

ew2440l if you can fork in rm719, it is really good for entertainment/general usage and the amva+ panel that come with it is really good (ips like response time performance, 3000:1 static contrast, true 8 bit panel, good black level, better color production than its predecessor ).
As for me (old u2311h user and CRT/plasma lover), i will say VA panel are for me for lcd monitor, i am willing to pay even rm1000 if manufacturer provided height adjustment stand and usb hub