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post Jan 23 2014, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 23 2014, 08:46 PM)
HDTV preset resolution will conform the REC709 standard color gamut, which is 16 > 235.  16 being black, 235 being white. This is also called limited range.  Blu-ray, consoles and hdmi appliances all using this color gamut.

While PC standard/VESA have full range from 0 > 255.  Display port is VESA standard. But it seems nvidia drivers has bug.  1920x1080 is NOT a VESA standard, it is a HDTV standard.  That is why nvidia driver pening.
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oh..it's only nvidia bug? Intel/AMD confirm no such issue?
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 23 2014, 08:50 PM)
oh..it's only nvidia bug? Intel/AMD confirm no such issue?
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According to the article, no. AMD seems to comply VESA or at least the first to have VESA new features.
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hi, one of my monitor's acting up. it's been several days but since I havent had time lately I didnt bother.

the left side of the screen shows horizontal lines resulting in pixelation on that side, the white balance is also affected, sometimes it becomes green, sometimes purple. switching cables does nothing (DVI>HDMI>VGA all same result)

should I call dell or is there a way to fix? I've never called tech support before, is it really like what they say, call and they straight come to take (I'm in Kuantan btw) or is there going to be a lengthy conversation first?
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 23 2014, 08:46 PM)
HDTV preset resolution will conform the REC709 standard color gamut, which is 16 > 235.  16 being black, 235 being white. This is also called limited range.  Blu-ray, consoles and hdmi appliances all using this color gamut.

While PC standard/VESA have full range from 0 > 255.  Display port is VESA standard. But it seems nvidia drivers has bug.  1920x1080 is NOT a VESA standard, it is a HDTV standard.  That is why nvidia driver pening.
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Nvidia can let u enable Full Range SRGB. Google about it.
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Hi guys, how does the Dell U2414H compares to the old Ultrasharps like 2407WHP & 2408WHP and the newer U2410 & U2413 ? ... strictly color wise.


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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:36 AM)
Hi guys, how does the Dell U2414H compares to the old Ultrasharps like 2407WHP & 2408WHP and the newer U2410 & U2413 ? ... strictly color wise.
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almost the same, to be honest.

I would recommend u to get a hardware monitor color calibrator.
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QUOTE(ronron @ Jan 23 2014, 12:11 PM)
Just received today 23/1/2014 my Dell P2314H monitor from NCT Logistics.

Ordered on 13/1/2014 from Teng. Highly recommended seller, friendly & helpful, fast response.

Reach my place (from Penang to Kota Kinabalu, Sabah) within 8 workings days(promised to allow 4-8 working days). Teng also helped me to call and expedite the order and informed them to deliver it earlier before 24/1 because I am going outstation on 24/1, and the monitor successfully delivered on 23/1/2014.  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif

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How much did you get it for?
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post Jan 24 2014, 04:50 AM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:36 AM)
Hi guys, how does the Dell U2414H compares to the old Ultrasharps like 2407WHP & 2408WHP and the newer U2410 & U2413 ? ... strictly color wise.
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All your listed monitor are wide-gamut monitor, out of league (different category) for dell u2414h as wide-gamut capable to show more colours and over-saturated on standard setting.

if you already get used with over-saturated colour, u2414h or any other 72% ntsc/100% srgb (or called as standard) gamut monitor is not for for you.

stay away from u2414h if you strictly if you working on photography and using adobergb color gamut.

Wide gamut monitor will only become relevant for normal users once alot of new content are benefit from rec2020 color gamut (which even larger than adobergb gamut)

Over-saturation doesn't mean all wide gamut monitor will look bad, i once use an old wide gamut VA panel professional samsung monitor and the color more popup and more vibrant compared to my dell u2311h. Same goes with amoled display on samsung phone

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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Jan 24 2014, 12:07 AM)
hi, one of my monitor's acting up. it's been several days but since I havent had time lately I didnt bother.

the left side of the screen shows horizontal lines resulting in pixelation on that side, the white balance is also affected, sometimes it becomes green, sometimes purple. switching cables does nothing (DVI>HDMI>VGA all same result)

should I call dell or is there a way to fix? I've never called tech support before, is it really like what they say, call and they straight come to take (I'm in Kuantan btw) or is there going to be a lengthy conversation first?
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just remove all cable from monitor, left only power cord then do the monitor selftest. just call technical support if still persist.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:17 AM)
Nvidia can let  u enable Full Range SRGB. Google about it.
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no need google, the article already included the nvidia tool to enable full sRGB.

QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:36 AM)
Hi guys, how does the Dell U2414H compares to the old Ultrasharps like 2407WHP & 2408WHP and the newer U2410 & U2413 ? ... strictly color wise.
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2407WHP & 2408WHP is old tech, not so comparable. let's take panels launched this few years ago to compare. my eyes not so good in differentiation, here is the spec comparison for color:

Color Gamut
U2412MU2413U2414H
82% (CIE 1976)120% (CIE1976)85% (CIE 1976)
72% (CIE 1931)103% (CIE1931)72% (CIE1931)
74.9% AdobeRGB99% AdobeRGB??
97% sRGB100% sRGB96% sRGB

U2413 still better, specially featuring 1.07 Billion colors and 8 bits + FRC panel. but consider launched price still highest if I'm not wrong.

This post has been edited by djlah: Jan 24 2014, 08:19 AM
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U2414H is not 2413 replacement
It is 2410 replacement.

If got the money I would go for 2413 too tongue.gif

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post Jan 24 2014, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:17 AM)
Nvidia can let  u enable Full Range SRGB. Google about it.
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Is it from nvidia itself or third party tool?
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QUOTE(freakyleon93 @ Jan 24 2014, 02:16 AM)
How much did you get it for?
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RM635.00, 3 years warranty.
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post Jan 24 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 24 2014, 08:11 AM)
just remove all cable from monitor, left only power cord then do the monitor selftest. just call technical support if still persist.
no need google, the article already included the nvidia tool to enable full sRGB.
2407WHP & 2408WHP is old tech, not so comparable. let's take panels launched this few years ago to compare. my eyes not so good in differentiation, here is the spec comparison for color:

Color Gamut
U2412MU2413U2414H
82% (CIE 1976)120% (CIE1976)85% (CIE 1976)
72% (CIE 1931)103% (CIE1931)72% (CIE1931)
74.9% AdobeRGB99% AdobeRGB??
97% sRGB100% sRGB96% sRGB

U2413 still better, specially featuring 1.07 Billion colors and 8 bits + FRC panel. but consider launched price still highest if I'm not wrong.
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there is no option for selftest.
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post Jan 24 2014, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(Fizzy-Fiz @ Jan 24 2014, 02:35 PM)
there is no option for selftest.
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there is no selftest option in the menu, just a description. ppl are used to call technical support, will understand. refer the steps: Monitor Self-Test Feature Check (STFC)

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 24 2014, 08:43 AM)
U2414H is not 2413 replacement
It is 2410 replacement.
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dell modeling system so confusing laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Jan 24 2014, 09:26 PM

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Just received the monitor from Dell today, very fast shipping I would say.
Comparing to my U2312HM, it is indeed very thin thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 24 2014, 08:48 AM)
Is it from nvidia itself or third party tool?
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even displayport use 16-235 chroma?
this is sux since displayport is using VESA standard, maybe the monitor request for HDMI signal from displayport doh.gif

nvidia should have limited or full rgb toggle on their driver for their premium cards sweat.gif

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 24 2014, 12:40 AM)
almost the same, to be honest.

I would recommend u to get a hardware monitor color calibrator.
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Thanks, will consider.

QUOTE(zerorating @ Jan 24 2014, 04:50 AM)
All your listed monitor are wide-gamut monitor, out of league (different category) for dell u2414h as wide-gamut capable to show more colours and over-saturated on standard setting.

if you already get used with over-saturated colour, u2414h or any other 72% ntsc/100% srgb (or called as standard) gamut monitor is not for for you.

stay away from u2414h if you strictly if you working on photography and using adobergb color gamut.

Wide gamut monitor will only become relevant for normal users once alot of new content are benefit from rec2020 color gamut (which even larger than adobergb gamut)

Over-saturation doesn't mean all wide gamut monitor will look bad, i once use an old wide gamut VA panel professional samsung monitor and the color more popup and more vibrant compared to my dell u2311h. Same goes with amoled display on samsung phone
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Thanks. That's so informative. I'm currently using 6-yr old 2407WHP. Warranty finished abt 1-yr ago. I'm thinking of getting 2 units of 2412M (gonna switch off the 2407whp for good or treat it just a backup) but kind of worried that it could be a downgrade to the 2407WHP. If that's the case, I'd just go for 1 unit of U2413 just to complement the 2407WHP, which I will continue to use.

Been scouting around, I was quoted RM8xx for U2412M and RM19xx for U2413, all brand new. I will try to find U2410 if lucky.

U2414H is out of question because I only eyeing for 16:10 monitor.

QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 24 2014, 08:11 AM)
2407WHP & 2408WHP is old tech, not so comparable. let's take panels launched this few years ago to compare. my eyes not so good in differentiation, here is the spec comparison for color:

Color Gamut
U2412MU2413U2414H
82% (CIE 1976)120% (CIE1976)85% (CIE 1976)
72% (CIE 1931)103% (CIE1931)72% (CIE1931)
74.9% AdobeRGB99% AdobeRGB??
97% sRGB100% sRGB96% sRGB

U2413 still better, specially featuring 1.07 Billion colors and 8 bits + FRC panel. but consider launched price still highest if I'm not wrong.
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Thanks. May I request the original url/article that features this table? Wondering if there's comparison also for U2410.

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jan 24 2014, 08:43 AM)
U2414H is not 2413 replacement
It is 2410 replacement.

If got the money I would go for 2413 too tongue.gif
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I was under the impression that, U2414H is U2412M successor and U2413 is the successor or U2410.

If I'm not mistaken "H" prefix means HD (16:9) and "M" means average color.

UQ series aside, those without H or M prefix is the superior among all ultrasharp (U) series. tongue.gif as well carrying hefty pricetag.
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QUOTE(strynch @ Jan 25 2014, 01:20 PM)
Thanks, will consider.
Thanks. That's so informative. I'm currently using 6-yr old 2407WHP. Warranty finished abt 1-yr ago. I'm thinking of getting 2 units of 2412M (gonna switch off the 2407whp for good or treat it just a backup) but kind of worried that it could be a downgrade to the 2407WHP. If that's the case, I'd just go for 1 unit of U2413 just to complement the 2407WHP, which I will continue to use.

Been scouting around, I was quoted RM8xx for U2412M and RM19xx for U2413, all brand new. I will try to find U2410 if lucky.

U2414H is out of question because I only eyeing for 16:10 monitor.
Thanks. May I request the original url/article that features this table? Wondering if there's comparison also for U2410.
I was under the impression that, U2414H is U2412M successor and U2413 is the successor or U2410.

If I'm not mistaken "H" prefix means HD (16:9) and "M" means average color.

UQ series aside, those without H or M prefix is the superior among all ultrasharp (U) series.  tongue.gif as well carrying hefty pricetag.
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Dell already moved to 16:9 monitor trending in majority. not much 16:10 monitor choice left unless looking back older models.

the table I create myself. only manage to collect up to U2412M ATM. will continue check for older model and update the table.
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QUOTE(djlah @ Jan 25 2014, 02:05 PM)
Dell already moved to 16:9 monitor trending in majority. not much 16:10 monitor choice left unless looking back older models.

the table I create myself. only manage to collect up to U2412M ATM. will continue check for older model and update the table.
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Thank you. May I know what monitoring are you using?

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