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 Introducing the Paragon System

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gaeria84
post Aug 21 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(nightshade_nova @ Aug 21 2012, 02:47 PM)
Dont left out the fact that paragon levels arent just mf+gf, but also +base stats.
But I guess the ones who benefit the most are the botters.
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This tongue.gif Turn on bot program, come back after a few weeks, level 100 paragon biggrin.gif

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post Aug 21 2012, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Aug 21 2012, 02:36 PM)
The new system still doesn't address why we need to grind 100 levels for anyways.

Reason why the D2 grind was addictive was because we needed to reach higher levels in order to equip high level items and to get more stat and skill points to further customize our characters. We won't get new items that scale with the new paragon levels nor additional skill points to further customize our characters. We will only be getting more and more ilvl63 items which we probably won't need. Just more stats and MF seems a fairly dull grind to me.  hmm.gif
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I dont know, man, part of me felt happy because Blizzard decided to add something to the game that sort of gave me a reason to play, which is to grind for better MF. However, the other part of me, which is the same as what you think, i think it is gonna be quite a dull grind.

Dont know whats up with Blizzard recently, but i think, Paragon Levels, better legendary and much better tuned Inferno mode arent the solution to the problem, as the main problem in D3 still lies in the lack of content. It feels some of the recent changes should be in the game on the release day, especially the incredibly underpowered legendary items or the annoying difficulty tuning on Inferno. It is okay for a game to be difficult, as we can see in games like Dark Souls, but using cheap tricks, like those elites, wont make the game fun to play.

Playing the same awfully written storyline wont make the game any better. That why i would want to see an open world mode with all the way points activated and the story content removed. Just let me play the game, without forcing me to listen to the same boring lines or see that terribly made cutscene for the 20th or so time. Especially the awful scene that Magda killed Cain.
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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 21 2012, 02:51 PM)
Playing the same awfully written storyline wont make the game any better. That why i would want to see an open world mode with all the way points activated and the story content removed. Just let me play the game, without forcing me to listen to the same boring lines or see that terribly made cutscene for the 20th or so time. Especially the awful scene that Magda killed Cain.
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just skip the scene with one key press, no need to whine about it doh.gif
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 21 2012, 03:26 PM)
just skip the scene with one key press, no need to whine about it doh.gif
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If the story is ok for you, then, thats cool then. It is just opinions, dont have to get so protective with your sacred diablo 3.
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post Aug 21 2012, 03:37 PM

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f that loser has been in the bliz forums for so many days. very hot topic.
and i say, f gay wilson.o.b.

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post Aug 21 2012, 03:44 PM

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QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Aug 21 2012, 03:37 PM)
f that loser has been in the bliz forums for so many days. very hot topic.
and i say, f gay wilson.o.b.
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They should've made Jay Wilson game director for Starcraft 2 instead. And Dustin Browder game director for D3 brows.gif

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Aug 21 2012, 03:36 PM)
If the story is ok for you, then, thats cool then. It is just opinions, dont have to get so protective with your sacred diablo 3.
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Cheesenium: I fkin hate cutscenes!!!
Me: just press a key to skip
Cheesenium: Don't get so protective with your sacred game you illogical fanboy

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post Aug 21 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 21 2012, 10:38 AM)
Fark yes, I can get rid of my MF gears. wub.gif
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lol i never wore mf gear. feels weak for being a melee

they just sit in my inventory looking pretty rolleyes.gif


Added on August 21, 2012, 3:52 pm
QUOTE(johnny82 @ Aug 21 2012, 10:39 AM)
lol i guess d3 idea of fun is grindfest...zzzz
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that's what people wanted.

that's what diablo2 was.

do take note, you're not obliged to grind paragon levels smile.gif


Added on August 21, 2012, 3:59 pm
QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 21 2012, 03:48 PM)
Cheesenium: I fkin hate cutscenes!!!
Me: just press a key to skip
Cheesenium: Don't get so protective with your sacred game you illogical fanboy

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post Aug 21 2012, 04:07 PM

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wtf I fail at the internet sad.gif

anyways I'm wondering if I should grind WD or Barb for paragon wub.gif

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post Aug 21 2012, 04:08 PM

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Inferno is not dat hard.. my monk can slash mobs/elite in act 3 and 4 like tofu.. lol haters gonna hate this comment.. but it is the truth yo..
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QUOTE(gaeria84 @ Aug 21 2012, 03:44 PM)
They should've made Jay Wilson game director for Starcraft 2 instead. And Dustin Browder game director for D3  brows.gif
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Nah, Jay Wilson wont be a good lead for SC2 because he tends to change things out a lot. And SC2 fans will be complaining that SC2 is a Dawn of War clone or some crap.

I just think Blizzard has set the bar themselves too high, where it is very difficult and expensive to top it.

QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 21 2012, 03:48 PM)
Cheesenium: I fkin hate cutscenes!!!
Me: just press a key to skip
Cheesenium: Don't get so protective with your sacred game you illogical fanboy

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You know what, i dont get you neither, sure, pressing a key will skip the awful cutscene, then, what about the nonsense that Leah or other character say? There is no way to remove that, unless mute the whole game entirely. Listening to the same UNCLE DECKARD crap for the 12th time is not even fun at all. An average story will eventually be an annoying story at the end, due to repetition.

Thats why i want an open world mode with no story element at all.

It's just opinions after all, you dont have to get so butthurt over it. If pressing a button to skip the cutscene is fine, then, good for you.
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post Aug 21 2012, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 21 2012, 03:48 PM)
Cheesenium: I fkin hate cutscenes!!!
Me: just press a key to skip
Cheesenium: Don't get so protective with your sacred game you illogical fanboy

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lol...i feel u bro... rolleyes.gif sweat.gif


Added on August 21, 2012, 5:09 pm
QUOTE(Renekton @ Aug 21 2012, 04:07 PM)
wtf I fail at the internet sad.gif

anyways I'm wondering if I should grind WD or Barb for paragon wub.gif
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WD is getting lots of buff...on paper it looks flex.gif
will try it out tomorrow night

and paragon...just a substitution for MF and GF....
if to get buff up legendary is 1%...300% just means 3% sweat.gif

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QUOTE(karwaidotnet @ Aug 21 2012, 05:04 PM)
lol...i feel u bro... rolleyes.gif  sweat.gif


Added on August 21, 2012, 5:09 pm
WD is getting lots of buff...on paper it looks flex.gif
will try it out tomorrow night

and paragon...just a substitution for MF and GF....
if to get buff up legendary is 1%...300% just means 3%  sweat.gif
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Hey, I heard theres a Bandwagon called 'Hate Diablo 3 to the fullest, regardless of logical thinking and developed braincells'

Is the bus here ? How do I join?
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post Aug 21 2012, 05:23 PM

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Dont understand the reason behind this Paragon thing. Why cant they increase the level cap OR take the cap thing away FFS. I dont understand the logic behind this. Can someone explain?
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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Aug 21 2012, 05:23 PM)
Dont understand the reason behind this Paragon thing. Why cant they increase the level cap OR take the cap thing away FFS. I dont understand the logic behind this. Can someone explain?
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game was only designed with 60 in mind. with additional actual levels, you need to redesign loot, redesign monsters (resistance, damage dealing/taking etc) and that's probably the tip of the iceberg.
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QUOTE(MonkeyDLuffy @ Aug 21 2012, 05:23 PM)
Dont understand the reason behind this Paragon thing. Why cant they increase the level cap OR take the cap thing away FFS. I dont understand the logic behind this. Can someone explain?
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It lets future expansion pack increase the level cap, while still giving players some feeling of reward/progression when grinding out Inferno.
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post Aug 21 2012, 06:21 PM

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Btw this is consider positive improvement for d3.. i mean it is huge improvement.. cant wait for the patch.. will grind all the way to paragon 100.. for those haters, just quit the game.. end of story.. dun waste ur effort to cry here..
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post Aug 21 2012, 07:05 PM

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this patch might just make me go back play it. but GW2 this weekend. so... see how lah. biggrin.gif

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