I am puzzled and do not understand why people and commentator keep on talking about Swansea.

Swansea ended the season last year at 11th place with 47 points, while Liv finished at 7th.
So if history repeat, mean Liv finishing at 11th, all smiling comes the end of season?

Reading did it before, Fulham under Roy also did it before, even progress into final in Europa cup.
So?

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Added on August 22, 2012, 4:39 pmYes, I don't mean BR is a good or poor manager, but I cannot understand why constantly comparing to Swansea.

The first match is a disastrous, performance wise did not convincing either.

The math is not like that. A manager can perform well with shoe-string budget in a smaller team, but come to bigger team and with bigger budget, it doesn't mean a automatically must of better performance.



This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 22 2012, 04:39 PM

Possession does not score you a goal, nor win you a match until someone in the team can make a decisive, creative passes/good crossing to be attacked upon, and strikers or anyone put into the net.

Liv last year had plenty of possession, plenty of passing, but history speak itself.

The 4 teams mentioned, have possession but also know to score.

Liv last year problem was all about put the ball into the net, not about not knowing how to play football nor passing issue nor not having enough possession of the ball.
This is the key problem of the team, conversion of chance made!

This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 22 2012, 05:06 PM

Talk is easy, I want to see it on the field, there is too much talk about possession football, Swansea football.

As I said earlier post (last week or so), do not carry away, over-optimistic until 5-8 matches had played.

We may talk about relegation battle after 5-6 matches.
Sorry do not mean too pessimistic, until seeing some positives sign about the how the team play, it is too early to talk so much about possession football.
Be realistic, instead being in dreamland of possession football.

Possession football, like pass between midfielders is useless to win a match.
That's why I personally do not fancy using stat alone to judge a player.

A playmaker or creative midfield can always try some brilliant passing, defence splitting passing move, but low in pass conversion (as difficult to make it perfect each time), but he is not a poor player, as long as 50% of the pass is indeed create chance for teamate to score, he is a good player.
vs
B midfield, always play safe, short passing, pass between midfielder teamate and defenders, he may chalk up passing completion rate 99%, but is not an effective midfield to win you a match.

You need slick passing, creative passing, brilliant 1-2 movement, off the ball movement, make opponent defenders out of position, create space, opportunity to shoot, only then this kind of possession football is useful to win you a match.

Save from losing?
Repeat it for 38 matches for the whole season, not to lose, aka ended up draws.
You have 38 points, which is potential relegation candidate.

A win is equivalent 3 draw.

I prefer to win 3 matches and lose 5 matches, instead of draw 8 matches.

Yes, that's what I am saying, don't judge so quickly about possession football, don't over-optimistic just because got a new manager.

Outplay Mancity on that day, probably yes.
But what the point of outplay opponent and yet cannot score a goal?
You still cannot win the match.
Yes great to watch, entertaining, but... no prize for that.

There is no open field goal after 2 matches, even many said Liv outplayed Mancity on Sunday, but Joe Hart hardly being call in action many time.
Either fail to convert the chance, or not clinical enough.

I still reiterated Liv problem is not how to play, the problem since carry a year or 2 ago, is always cannot put the ball into the net.
There is no problem for possession, create chance even during KD tenure, but finishing the chance created was the key problem why the team cannot challenge the top 4 place, and seems the same problem for current team as well.

This was not happening during first match against WBA, even before Agger sending off.

The change of system, and personnel actually make the difference, and particularly Sterling that looks lively and dare to run on opponent defender that was pleasing on the eye.

The pleasing on the eye is so far only 1 match against Mancity, and yet hardly troubled much against opponent Gk.

So let's wait and see how the team unfold.
Still too early to judge.

Don't mean to criticise, it may be two days already.
The first goal Mancity scored, I reckon part of GK fault as well, by coming out to punch but did not get the ball.

Best team?

Play 3, score 0 from open play.

Already posted before, no prize or point for possession, goal does.

How to challenge the top 4 when the team struggling for goal?
And somemore leaking goal easily.

If cannot win next PL match against Sunderland, and ManU, talk of relegation battle may emerge again...

My pov, time to bench Reina and Gerrard as well.
Cannot let poor form player has an automatic start.
Must have some competition.

If 3-4 years consistent without CL football, good talented players in the team may be lured away.
It may become like a selling club, then.

It is almost impossible to challenge the top with a selling club situation.

It is like chicken and egg issue.
Without CL, it is difficult to retain your top player.