QUOTE(hfi @ Aug 29 2012, 12:25 AM)
Like how Brendan played Cole when he was still lacking fitness ? or how about when Lucas actually pulled his muscle thigh during warm up prior the City match and was still selected to start the game ? I'm really curious why the change of opinion about Lucas now. He has been the most consistent performer for us the past few turbulent seasons. It's undisputed. It's not fair to say Allen makes more 'useful' pass at all. They're different kind of players, performing different tasks for the team. And if i remember correctly, Lucas stats from last season would argue that he did more forward pass than Allen did.
what change of opinion? i have never been a fan of no.21 - in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.
here's something someone did, comparing last yr's WBA game with the recent excellent 0-3 performance.
you can see how last yr lucas attemped more forward passes, but only for them to be intercepted which are the ones in red.
now under BR hes playing slightly further up front, moving slightly out of his comfort zone and he spraying passes sideways more again.
time will tell, but if no.21 still looks uncomfortable playing higher up...then i dont see how he'll be starting more games once he returns.

but again, to pass completion.
skrtel had 84% pass completion rate, but were any of them really useful?

QUOTE(Cloud0890 @ Aug 29 2012, 07:42 AM)
nahhh exactly why BR will want both Lucas and Allen so that Lucas can focus on shielding the back four while Allen is free to go further forward to make good use of his creativity and passing ability. The reason why Allen adopted that defensive role in City game was because Lucas got injured at the last minute so Shelvey was brought on to play in Allen's role.
Remember how Lucas single handedly won/saved us points last season before his injury with his dominating defensive midfield display alone? When he was with the squad we were able to at least draw games because of him protecting the defense but without him in the 2nd half of the season we ended up at around 17/18th place for the 2nd half of the season. Allen might be good with his positioning and intercepting passes but when it comes to doing the dirty work, Lucas is our best.
thats cos we then had both adam and spearing running the midfield.
now we got the golden boy and sahin, also jonjo is slowly coming of age.
plus BR, like rafa, likes to employ 2 holding sweeping midfielders.
and i dont think anyone would just like to draw games...