Look at it this way, Agger purposely got sent off because he dun wan to be sold to Barca , any possibilities?



Actually the refree was too harsh, a red card was not needed, penalty okay, as it was a 50 50 situation, Ronaldo and Nani does it most of the time too

Damn it ref. Both shouldnt be a penalty.

Agger got the red as he was the last man, but the shoving is out of the box.
Skrtel was going to clear the ball!!

Since when not seeing = no foul? Like that no one will ever get sent off for elbowing laa

Typical....

I like enter Liverpool thread after match, they are many Shebby wannabe give football analysis

We can't wait too long to win things or get back to the top 4. Not sure what FSG will think of that in view of KD gone in 1 season. I think by then the club may have been folded where big time sponsors would have gone elsewhere and we have a bloated wages to take care of and could end up like Rangers. Call it knee jerk but I hope not to see that day of reckoning.

Hate to say Adidas was right in what they have said about us, they're right in many ways. How often we hear bosses telling us ..... "just get it done i don't want to hear excuses". Dreams are made of this and time is an essence to achieve success in the modern game, as much as I hate to believe but has to admit that being the case in the modern game. Patience will not be the flavor in the modern game as what the FSG has demonstrated in KD's case. Never mind what they say in the open, they will always be looking for success within the shortest possible time and they'll be cold blooded if they need to. Anyway they're businessmen and 'human sentiments" doesn't come into play for them.

As for the fan base, we're drifting from being one of the most popular and best supported club to one of the also rans. All said and done, the modern game is dictated by sponsorhips, air time and fan base, FSG should be able to tell us more.

There's no guarantee that Stanchart and Warrior will continue to be the sponsors if success is not delivered to them between now and then, otherwise they will most probably be roasted by their own board. They are through and through businessmen and they have no sentiments over the club that they sponsor, as what you've rightly mentioned their consicence is guided by profits while ours is by loyalty.

Coming from the 70s tribe, yes we were the in-thing and those successes of the 70s and 80s carries us through to the 90s and perhaps a little over 2000s. Lack of succeses over the 90s and beyond 2000 has caused our popularity and fan base to grow  by a much slower pace and I have to eat the humble pie to say that it's the case now. Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy and I'm not proud at all with what I've just expressed and I'm not getting any less loyal by saying so and it pains me to say that, but we have to acknowledge the reality of the situation of the club now.

Let's look at the LFC now, not the one that we know of in the 70s/80s/90s, it's like any other business entity that survives on the success of customers retention and new customers coming through the pipeline. Situation now stands that due to our recent lack of successes (90s and 2000s) the club very much retains the customer base, like you and me plus many others from the same era because we were very much associated with those successful years. I won't also fail to also mention and to give much credit to many of the supporters here trickling in after year 2000, moreso after 2010, which is often associated with those lean years.

Time has moved, the way football club is run has also changed by much and it evolves around winning on the pitch and gets translated into financial rewards while also broadening of the customers/fan base. Yes, I'm very happy to know from your tone  that you're through and through a diehard Liverpool fan and I'm no different but we need to be down to earth to acknowledge where we are now compared to say 20 or 25 years ago. To hell with what the mancs have to say about us, it doesn't bother me a bit.

I think we’re debating on a different basis, your is more tawords fans loyalty while mine is towards the long term suvival and growth of the club from the financial and the widening of the fan base.

Thanks for sharing your thought.

So, what's the prediction for Man City's game?

Okay, now the hatred towards BR is gone( because he used the wrong tactics and undermine Steve Ckarke capabilities in out smarting him)

Lets support BR for atleast ONE point in our next game, We can do it because our fans sing a song whenever we play and this will win games.

Even if we lose, i dun mind BUT BR must get the tactics right by fielding the correct players in the right position.

Go BR go, do your best and play good passing and possession football, we have Allen which was the best player other than Reina in our last game.

WTF rest Suarez after the first match of the season and when we are severely lacking creativty up front ? Utter madness.

The missus, despite having very little interest in football probably sensed my disappointment (with both the results and probably the sacking of KD from many moons ago) actually asked this;

"How many 3-0 defeats will the club take before BR is booted out?"

Normally I would have laughed this off, but Manchester City, Arsenal, Sunderland, Man Utd and Norwich are our next five games. Sunderland and Norwich, which on paper would be the most winnable are away games.

If things go sour, would the owners stomach 6 defeats in a row?

Didn't we also sign a young highly rated scottish cb last season? is he loaned out or has he been sold?

Unfortunately Dawson lacks pace to play a high defensive line of AVB where he is now down to 5th in the pecking order. If we were to continue defending high like in the WBA game, Dawson I feel is not the one for us.

What do you guys think about Scott Sinclair? 1 year left on his contract, wants to leave, knows BR's system, only 22, seems City is gonna snap him up for 5m which seems like a good price considering he is British. Or do you think Adam Johnson is the better choice despite his selfishness and lack of work rate required for high pressure closing down opponents?

second that. martin kelly. your CB position have to be your strongest, followed by the fullbacks. can we use flanagan in LB and revert GJ back to RB? you also mentioned Dawson. i think he is used to be called a poor man's John Terry. is he still any good?

we had the best defence last season....yet we lost.

like ive said before, last season line up + lucas wouldve done it. We r trying to rebuild every season n all the learning of previous season has gone to waste.

good point. the reason i would move GJ back to his more familiar RB position is i think he is almost useless going forward in the LB position. correct me if i'm wrong. enrique is still injured correct? hmmm. because we wont be playing carra in the LB position, i think we might see the same back 4 that finished the WBA game

last season was promising build up for me. I was utterly hurt by King Kenny sacking coz i believed that he had something coming. The low conversion rate n no. of woodwork hits rlly dissapointing but i believed the fix wasnt so far away. Rebuilding will take more time n work.

4-3-3 against City is suicidal. I cant see how your formation can work. We leave a big gap for Yaya Toure and Samir Nasri to walk right over us.

I agree.

Obviously City are favourites against us. So rather than sitting back and inviting city to attack (which they can, and will), Its a better idea to go for it (cautiously of course) with the 4-3-3 (diamond-ish) formation and as Duke said... revert to 4-5-1 when City are attacking.

No point having those names in midfield all at once if we plan on countering... those names are on the field if we are parking the bus.

I'd like to see Suarez-Carroll-Borini start. If both of them can supply Carroll with good balls, I'm sure we can start scoring. I dont think we're particularly bad at the back, but we all know how woeful we are up front.