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The SSD Thread V3, The Speed You Need
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tskhang
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Sep 5 2012, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(buffon11 @ Sep 5 2012, 02:00 AM) thanks for your recommendation, around 120 gb would be enough i guess. what about corsair ssd? why no one recommend that here? The Corsairs that are readily available here are using Sandforce controller. So I guess no one dare to recommend it  . Mostly going for the more reliable Marvell based controller, but for the Corsair (marvell based) need to import and the price is on the high side. BTW TS add me to the user list tskhang | Crucial M4 | 128GB x 2 | RAID-0 tskhang | Corsair Performance Pro | 256GB x 2 | single mode tskhang | Plextor M3S | 128GB tskhang | Intel X-25M G2 | 160GB This post has been edited by tskhang: Sep 5 2012, 03:31 PM
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tskhang
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Jan 9 2013, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Jan 9 2013, 03:13 AM) yup with Marvell one, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx...N82E16816124041 i can use this on my amd board right ? to get full performance. Nope, with PCIE 2.0 X 1, you only get max 500MB/s from the card. Using 2 of your SSDs in raid, each will share the 500MB/s, therefore you are actually getting the performance of a single SSD, maybe less.
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tskhang
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Jan 10 2013, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Jan 10 2013, 12:22 AM) so if i get a raid card that having max 2-6GB/s from a card, would allow me have full performance? You should be looking for at least a PCIe 2.0 x 2 card (500MB/s x 2 = 1000MB/s). But on the market, after x1, the next cards are in x4 (2000MB/s) and x8 (4000MB/s). However, there are things which you need to research carefully, such as compatibility with your motherboard, your SSD, performance issues (different chipset/hardware-based/software-based RAID) and if the card supports booting. Another point to ponder, since everyone knows that Intel SATA chipset gives the best performance for SSDs, so far none of the RAID cards are using Intel chipset. Heck even Intel branded RAID cards are just a re-badge of LSI cards. So the performance you get from a RAID card even with sufficient bandwidth, might be somewhere the same as your current on-board RAID controller. Some might improve the write speed, but decreases the read speed and VICE VERSA. It really depends on the characteristics of the RAID card. This post has been edited by tskhang: Jan 10 2013, 09:31 AM
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tskhang
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Jan 10 2013, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Jan 10 2013, 02:37 PM) LSI raid card cost a bomb too ._. too achieve full performance =\ Yes, LSI is one of the highly rated RAID cards out there. But even that, I have seen reviews from people saying it did not give them the full performance expected off their SSDs.
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tskhang
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Jan 10 2013, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(storm88 @ Jan 10 2013, 06:03 PM) Hardware raid your SSD doesn't mean you will be getting the multiplies of the speed when the number increases. Many people tend to forget the max speed a Raid card read/writes...  Yes, I did mention it depends on the characteristics of the RAID card. The multiplies of the speed is a theoretical calculation of each number of lanes from a PCIe. That would be a general start to determine the capabilities of the card minus whether the RAID is able to perform at its max or not. He did mentioned he was considering about a PCIe x1 lane card, so even that alone is already not suitable for RAID 0 2 SSDs, whether it can perform at max or not
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tskhang
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Jan 10 2013, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE(HoNeYdEwBoY @ Jan 10 2013, 06:28 PM) owh.... so if i want get a normal raid card which one u recommend? IMO forking out on a RAID card, not knowing whether it will perform up to your expectations or not does not justify it, unless if your motherboard currently does not support RAID.
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tskhang
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Jan 17 2013, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Jan 17 2013, 12:52 PM) Only solution is to get a pcie card? Your motherboard only have 1 PCIe x1 version 1.1, so no point to have RAID card, it would only run around your current speed.
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tskhang
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Jan 17 2013, 03:37 PM
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QUOTE(Damonzero @ Jan 17 2013, 03:31 PM) I see, so means there is only 1 option: changing mobo? Yes, or use your current mobo until you decided its time to upgrade. In terms of real life usage, with your SSD running at 250MB/s, it would still be faster compared to your HDD.
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tskhang
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Jan 18 2013, 08:55 PM
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Jan 18 2013, 08:31 PM) Sifu, any recommendation on how to benchmark both of this SSD? i got i3 2100 + P8H77M-LE + HD5770 + 8GB RAM system. @@ what should i be looking out on Kingston SSD? never venture to it until today. AS SSD or CrystalMark, link on the 1st post.
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tskhang
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Jan 19 2013, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(工藤新一 @ Jan 19 2013, 07:42 PM) Hello all Sifu~ my mobo, MSI P55-CD53 is using SATA 2, so if I get Intel 330 series, will my boot time improve significantly (Windows 7)? If you are upgrading from a HDD, then yes.
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tskhang
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Jan 20 2013, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(工藤新一 @ Jan 19 2013, 09:53 PM) but my mobo SATA 2, Inter 330 series SATA 3, won't that caused only minor increment in boot speed? Like I said, if you are comparing a HDD to a SSD, you will notice a lot of difference, even if your SSD is running in SATA 2. However, difference between running SSD in SATA 2 and 3, the experience would be minor.
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tskhang
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Feb 25 2013, 08:39 AM
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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Feb 24 2013, 08:23 PM) hi im still a newbie to ssd if i do a raid 0 configuration will i still be able to use trim?  Yes However, there are some requirements for it to work. Refer here http://www.anandtech.com/show/6161/intel-b...ards-we-test-it
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tskhang
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Mar 6 2013, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(toytoybuysell @ Mar 6 2013, 11:13 AM) sigh, intel still don't want to hv trim for raid in z68 chips... is it worth to change mobo just for this function? If you are feeling adventurous. http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?2...us-IV-Extreme-Z
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