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lucidlts
post Sep 14 2012, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(hanny562 @ Sep 14 2012, 01:27 AM)
something weird happened to my SSD.the speed of read/write so much much lower... @@

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ummm... what brand & model you're using? :/
the write looks ok but the read is really low
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post Sep 14 2012, 10:25 AM

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Hi, just sharing my benchmark of M4. Laptop are running programming development software,sql server, dota2 thumbup.gif

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post Sep 14 2012, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Sep 14 2012, 09:18 AM)
ummm... what brand & model you're using? :/
the write looks ok but the read is really low
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I'm using Corsair Force 3 60GB...now have perform secure erase and reinstall windows...see if still low speed or not ><
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post Sep 14 2012, 06:31 PM

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hi there, if you are given a choice which will you choose? intel 330 or ocz vertex4 128gb for the same price? thanks alot
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post Sep 14 2012, 06:31 PM

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hi guys, forgive me if my questions sounds stupid...

i just replaced my notebook HDD with Crucial M4 SSD. the SSD supposed to have 512GB capacity.

i did 2 partition C & D.

i know there are bound to have losses but when i check (at My Computer) the total available is
C = 161GB
D = 286GB
which gives total 447GB which means, 65GB of losses!!!! that's more than 10% losses!! (its quite a bit considering there are SSD's with 60GB capacity selling for couple of hundreds)

fyi, i already deleted the Hybernation function which is supposed to free up some space...

when i check under Disk Management (Computer Management) i found:

Attached Image

so there's 5 partition

EFI System Partition = 200MB
Primary Partition = 4GB
Recovery Partition = 25GB
C Partition = 161GB
D Partition = 286GB

this gives a total of 476GB which is 36GB losses (and acceptable i guess)

my machine is Asus and i've already created the recovery disk (5xDVD) on day 0.

my questions:
1) What is the 4GB "Primary Partition" & 25GB Recovery Partition?
2) Can i delete the Recovery Partition & free up expensive 25GB?
3) is it normal to have 30+ GB of losses?

i did a bit of googling and found mixed answers. some say u need the recovery partition and some say u dont since already created recovery disks.

thanks for reading! help/advise/answers much appreciated!
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post Sep 14 2012, 07:35 PM

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QUOTE(Eng_Tat @ Sep 14 2012, 06:31 PM)
hi there, if you are given a choice which will you choose? intel 330 or ocz vertex4 128gb for the same price? thanks alot
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vertex4 for sure. intel 330's performance is alot lower than vertex4
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post Sep 14 2012, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Sep 14 2012, 06:31 PM)
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my questions:
1) What is the 4GB "Primary Partition" & 25GB Recovery Partition?
2) Can i delete the Recovery Partition & free up expensive 25GB?
3) is it normal to have 30+ GB of losses?
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1) I'm not sure what's inside the primary partition but I guess that's needed for your Asus recovery purpose.
2) If you feels that you won't need the recovery partition then you can do a manual re-installation of your Windows, there you can cut loose that 2 factory generated partition that usually come with the recovery disk auto installation. Manual installation involve only Windows setup disk and not the factory recovery disk.
3) 512,000,000,000 bytes advertised, divide by 1024 (3 times) and you get around 476GB. Still can't understand this? Remember the HDD space lost theory? It's the very same thing.

Note: Manual installation also require you to DIY all the drivers and Asus bloat-ware that usually come with the recovery disk. Drivers are easy to find nowadays, as long as you have Internet. wink.gif

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Sep 14 2012, 07:51 PM
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post Sep 14 2012, 09:44 PM

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in the end I've RMA my Mushkin Chronos 120gb and topup for 520 Intel 120gb..

Mushkine Chronos 120gb keep BSOD on me... sad.gif

Intel 520 is awesome, a little bit pricy but high speed and peace of my mind.. smile.gif
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post Sep 15 2012, 01:56 AM

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now more weird to my ssd.

after secure erase, the speed drop to

write 250MB/s read 350MB/s ==
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post Sep 15 2012, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Sep 14 2012, 09:44 PM)
in the end I've RMA my Mushkin Chronos 120gb and topup for 520 Intel 120gb..

Mushkine Chronos 120gb keep BSOD on me... sad.gif

Intel 520 is awesome, a little bit pricy but high speed and peace of my mind.. smile.gif
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Seems that got a bit problem then..
But i bought a 520 intel 120gb as well.
Serves me quite good,purchased yesterday =P 5years warranty is the best part rclxms.gif


hahahaa icon_idea.gif
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post Sep 15 2012, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(availyboy @ Sep 15 2012, 10:34 AM)
But i bought a 520 intel 120gb as well.
Serves me quite good,purchased yesterday =P 5years warranty is the best part  rclxms.gif
hahahaa icon_idea.gif
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The five years warranty isn't a good deal.

Three years ago, in September 2009, the first-generation OCZ Vertex 120GB (Indilynx controller, before the SandForce controller) SATA 3.0 Gb/s cost RM 1,599. In 2010, the first-generation Intel SSD X25-M 160GB was going for RM 1,850. Today, an Intel 330 120GB (SandForce controller) SATA 6.0 Gb/s costs only RM 310. In two more years, I expect a 120GB SSD to go under RM 150, perhaps even under RM 100, if the capacity remains available in the market. Three years from now, you might go out and buy a 480GB SSD for maybe less than RM300. Five years from now? Who knows.

Or to look at it in another way, the first generation Intel SSD, the X25-M, also had a five year warranty and it was first released in around August 2008. Meaning that these SSDs would start to have their warranties expire next year. If Intel will still have replacement X25-Ms in stock and you own a hypothetical X25-M that fails next year, will you bother going through the RMA process or would you just go and buy a cheap, modern and high-performance SSD?

Then again, if you typically have rather old components in your computer, maybe it was a good deal for you.
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post Sep 15 2012, 05:57 PM

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QUOTE(availyboy @ Sep 15 2012, 10:34 AM)
Seems that got a bit problem then..
But i bought a 520 intel 120gb as well.
Serves me quite good,purchased yesterday =P 5years warranty is the best part  rclxms.gif
hahahaa icon_idea.gif
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well i just care about the reliability of the sdd.. intel is the way to go..
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post Sep 15 2012, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 15 2012, 05:33 PM)
The five years warranty isn't a good deal.

Three years ago, in September 2009, the first-generation OCZ Vertex 120GB (Indilynx controller, before the SandForce controller) SATA 3.0 Gb/s cost RM 1,599. In 2010, the first-generation Intel SSD X25-M 160GB was going for RM 1,850. Today, an Intel 330 120GB (SandForce controller) SATA 6.0 Gb/s costs only RM 310. In two more years, I expect a 120GB SSD to go under RM 150, perhaps even under RM 100, if the capacity remains available in the market. Three years from now, you might go out and buy a 480GB SSD for maybe less than RM300. Five years from now? Who knows.

Or to look at it in another way, the first generation Intel SSD, the X25-M, also had a five year warranty and it was first released in around August 2008. Meaning that these SSDs would start to have their warranties expire next year. If Intel will still have replacement X25-Ms in stock and you own a hypothetical X25-M that fails next year, will you bother going through the RMA process or would you just go and buy a cheap, modern and high-performance SSD?

Then again, if you typically have rather old components in your computer, maybe it was a good deal for you.
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That doesn't really matter to me seriously.
Since i'm still using the so called "old i7 920 with 4.2ghz" i'm contented with such a ssd.
Eventually i don't really care about the pricing of those,since i know that the expand of the SSD would be much.
But do you know that,during the time that you already had problems and warranty,that time they have a better capacity of SSD,they would replace a newer drive. Why? 5 years warranty i don't really care lol.
Good deal or not,not my problem,as long as i am happy with the SSD.

Eventually, don't forget that you have mentioned that "warranty starts to expire next year" is not a valid sentence. Why? Cards who gives 5 years warranty such as ZOTAC, is still valid, Why?, even though the market doesn't sell GTX295 anymore,they will replace with a newer card.

Which do you think it's a better deal then? thumbup.gif

QUOTE(jepertine90 @ Sep 15 2012, 05:57 PM)
well i just care about the reliability of the sdd.. intel is the way to go..
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True,i've heard alot of things about intel, still it's SF controller for 330 and 520. So not really sure.
Heard about reliability of crucial m4 as well.. hmm thumbup.gif
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post Sep 15 2012, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(hanny562 @ Sep 15 2012, 01:56 AM)
now more weird to my ssd.

after secure erase, the speed drop to

write 250MB/s read 350MB/s ==
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ummm. that makes me wonder what your system spec is?
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post Sep 15 2012, 11:27 PM

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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Sep 15 2012, 09:35 PM)
ummm. that makes me wonder what your system spec is?
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Erm..The board i'm using is Asus M5A99X EVO

Asus M5A99X EVO supports Sata3..using asus original cable too><

This post has been edited by hanny562: Sep 15 2012, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(everling @ Sep 15 2012, 05:33 PM)
The five years warranty isn't a good deal.

Three years ago, in September 2009, the first-generation OCZ Vertex 120GB (Indilynx controller, before the SandForce controller) SATA 3.0 Gb/s cost RM 1,599. In 2010, the first-generation Intel SSD X25-M 160GB was going for RM 1,850. Today, an Intel 330 120GB (SandForce controller) SATA 6.0 Gb/s costs only RM 310. In two more years, I expect a 120GB SSD to go under RM 150, perhaps even under RM 100, if the capacity remains available in the market. Three years from now, you might go out and buy a 480GB SSD for maybe less than RM300. Five years from now? Who knows.

Or to look at it in another way, the first generation Intel SSD, the X25-M, also had a five year warranty and it was first released in around August 2008. Meaning that these SSDs would start to have their warranties expire next year. If Intel will still have replacement X25-Ms in stock and you own a hypothetical X25-M that fails next year, will you bother going through the RMA process or would you just go and buy a cheap, modern and high-performance SSD?

Then again, if you typically have rather old components in your computer, maybe it was a good deal for you.
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+1
That why i rather take 330 than 520, more value for money and i'm only using at sata2 port because my marvel sata3 port not doing well like native sata2 controller. yawn.gif

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Hey guys may I know whether an ssd deliver most of it's performance combining with an old am3 socket board that only has sata 2 ports? Thanks

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Hey guys,im using a lenovo y580 notebook. And im planning to swap the optical drive for hdd and use a ssd in the hdd bay.

I'm kinda on a tight budget,so i wana get a best bang for bucks ssd.
Anyone can recommend me a ssd?

And how many gb should i get?probably gona just load in my os,a few games and a few programmes..
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QUOTE(ukimaro @ Sep 16 2012, 08:40 PM)
Hey guys may I know whether an ssd deliver most of it's performance combining with an old am3 socket board that only has sata 2 ports?  Thanks
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too bad i dont see anyone brining in crucial V4, else u can go for that
IMHO, either m4/vertex 3/330 will do, depends on ur budget



QUOTE(hanny562 @ Sep 15 2012, 11:27 PM)
Erm..The board i'm using is Asus M5A99X EVO

Asus M5A99X EVO supports Sata3..using asus original cable too><
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how bout updating to the latest chipset driver?
performance might differ, based on my experience:
- fresh installed OS performs badly on asus laptop if i update the chipset driver
- fresh installed OS performs around 15%~20% better after i update the chipset driver for my p67 mobo


QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 16 2012, 08:56 PM)
Hey guys,im using a lenovo y580 notebook. And im planning to swap the optical drive for hdd and use a ssd in the hdd bay.

I'm kinda on a tight budget,so i wana get a best bang for bucks ssd.
Anyone can recommend me a ssd?

And how many gb should i get?probably gona just load in my os,a few games and a few programmes..
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120GB/128GB ssd for OS + programs, USB 3.0 hdd (5G/s) for other stuffs. much more better than the hdd that comes with the laptop itself (3G/s not 6G/s)

This post has been edited by lucidlts: Sep 16 2012, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Sep 16 2012, 10:10 PM)
too bad i dont see anyone brining in crucial V4, else u can go for that
IMHO, either m4/vertex 3/330 will do, depends on ur budget
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Thanks bro but does it have full transfer speeds in terms of write/read ?
or is it advisable to upgrade mobo ? My bro wanna buy M4 or 330.

his mobo is here . http://my.msi.com/product/mb/770-C35.html



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