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post May 12 2013, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 12 2013, 03:56 PM)
Ok here is the thing WD blacks require active cooling especially the current gen. They run hot.

SSD's now are better than ever and they can handle multi tasking. Hence where on I/O consistency the sandforce beats marvel, samsung. Meaning i would trust my torrent rig with sandforce rather than marvel and samsung controllers. However since the use of nand's sandforce degrades.

The only one top of the line that is very good at this is Neutron GTX which is what corsair is marketing as multi tasking heavy use. Its also good for some light server loads so far. Its enterprise grade on I/O consisntecy and the nand doesnt degrade.
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That's why current mid to high end casing comes with modular HDD cage equip with 12cm fans to keep the drives cool.

I do agree that WD Black series runs hot. Average 41 celcius sweat.gif
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post May 12 2013, 05:24 PM

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i want to ask,
my intel 120gb ssd already use for almost 1 year,
the intel toolbox still show 100% life,
is there anything wrong with intel toolbox or normal?
the weird thing is smart detail show the ssd already on for 898484 hours ( 102 year)
so what tool can i use to measure more accurate...>.>
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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 12 2013, 05:24 PM)
i want to ask,
my intel 120gb ssd already use for almost 1 year,
the intel toolbox still show 100% life,
is there anything wrong with intel toolbox or normal?
the weird thing is smart detail show the ssd already on for 898484 hours ( 102 year)
so what tool can i use to measure more accurate...>.>
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Its no hours dude.
N the life is based on number of writes.


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post May 12 2013, 08:19 PM

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here it say power on hours count....


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post May 12 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(moiskyrie @ May 12 2013, 08:19 PM)
here it say power on hours count....
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do u see a normalize value..
so nope.
not important.

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post May 13 2013, 05:32 PM

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Anyone tried out SSHD? It seems offering a very good price over performance with more capacity. Not sure if its a right place to bring out this discussion since its both SSD and HDD.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ May 13 2013, 06:32 PM)
Anyone tried out SSHD? It seems offering a very good price over performance with more capacity. Not sure if its a right place to bring out this discussion since its both SSD and HDD.
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You mean the hybrid drive? it's available on the market already?
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post May 13 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ May 13 2013, 05:44 PM)
You mean the hybrid drive? it's available on the market already?
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The new generation of SSHD might be not here yet. But Momentus XT already here for a long time.
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QUOTE(hmwgbworld @ May 13 2013, 05:32 PM)
Anyone tried out SSHD? It seems offering a very good price over performance with more capacity. Not sure if its a right place to bring out this discussion since its both SSD and HDD.
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Hmm but with z68 and above u can use the intel ssd cache tech. So just buy a smaller ssd and a larger hdd and it will do a hybrid like solution with ahci.
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post May 13 2013, 06:04 PM

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There are something called Solid State Cache too, \
http://www.corsair.com/ssd/accelerator-ser...che-drives.html
http://www.sandisk.sg/products/ssd/sata/readycache/

Works on any mobo but require third party software, not really a new tech stuff as SSC exist on market for quite some times already.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ May 13 2013, 05:44 PM)
You mean the hybrid drive? it's available on the market already?
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Yup Hybrid Drive nod.gif

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 13 2013, 05:55 PM)
Hmm but with z68 and above u can use the intel ssd cache tech. So just buy a smaller ssd and a larger hdd and it will do a hybrid like solution with ahci.
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The cost of getting small ssd + hdd will be cheaper solution indeed when the capacity of HDD goes bigger.
However, it requires 2 sata connections. I'm planning to get the 2.5" version for my sister new laptop.

Some youtube testing and comparisons, not sure it is reliable source or not. It shows SSHD just 3sec behind SSD for boot up.

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is there any differences between intel SSD 335 series and intel SSD 520 series ?

i'm looking something above 240G and it seem like this 2 series fit the bill.

so far the highest capacity is 480G by intel 520, any bigger capacity from intel ?
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QUOTE(wengjoe @ May 13 2013, 09:28 PM)
is there any differences between intel SSD 335 series and intel SSD 520 series ?

i'm looking something above 240G and it seem like this 2 series fit the bill.

so far the highest capacity is 480G by intel 520, any bigger capacity from intel ?
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Intel 335
- 3 years warranty
- cheaper

Intel 520
- 5 years warranty
- expensive
- better performance [but not so noticeable in real life]

Any more than 480gb or 512gb will probably be revodrive.
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Hello there, i have a question.
As a hardcore gamer, which option shud i go for? Raid 0 2budget ssds like plextor m5s or 1 single high end ssd like samsung 840 pro?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 14 2013, 07:21 AM)
Hello there, i have a question.
As a hardcore gamer, which option shud i go for? Raid 0 2budget ssds like plextor m5s or 1 single high end ssd like samsung 840 pro?

Thanks!
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I for one go for bigger capacity SSD rather than Raid 0, it's not that plextor M5s is bad (I'm using one). It' just that if there's anyting happen to one of your raided 0 SSD...then it's goodbye data. nod.gif

Edit:
When does hardcore gamers have to do with raid 0? I thought those for benchmark fanatics

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ May 14 2013, 08:15 AM)
I for one go for bigger capacity SSD rather than Raid 0, it's not that plextor M5s is bad (I'm using one). It' just that if there's anyting happen to one of your raided 0 SSD...then it's goodbye data.  nod.gif

Edit:
When does hardcore gamers have to do with raid 0? I thought those for benchmark fanatics
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Plus one more thing, SSD require trim, unlike HDD, if mobo does not support trim on RAID0, you gonna suffer poor write performance later.
Plus 2, SSD does not imcrease FPS, but reduce loading time only.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ May 14 2013, 08:15 AM)
I for one go for bigger capacity SSD rather than Raid 0, it's not that plextor M5s is bad (I'm using one). It' just that if there's anyting happen to one of your raided 0 SSD...then it's goodbye data.  nod.gif

Edit:
When does hardcore gamers have to do with raid 0? I thought those for benchmark fanatics
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well, since the overall performance would be lower (cheaper ssd), i thought maybe raid 0 configuration can make up for it when it comes to straight fight with something like samsung 840 pro / neutron gtx

not to mention, purchasing 2 x value ssds is cheaper than purchasing 1 x performance ssd.

so im pretty much in a dilemma right now as my budget only allows me to stretch a bit to buy either 2 x 256gb value ssd or ended up purchasing just 1 x 256gb performance ssd.

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QUOTE(G_KeN @ May 14 2013, 02:29 PM)
well, since the overall performance would be lower (cheaper ssd), i thought maybe raid 0 configuration can make up for it when it comes to straight fight with something like samsung 840 pro / neutron gtx

not to mention, purchasing 2 x value ssds is cheaper than purchasing 1 x performance ssd.

so im pretty much in a dilemma right now as my budget only allows me to stretch a bit to buy either 2 x 256gb value ssd or ended up purchasing just 1 x 256gb performance ssd.
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one 256GB SSD will do
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post May 15 2013, 05:12 AM

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QUOTE(wengjoe @ May 13 2013, 09:28 PM)
is there any differences between intel SSD 335 series and intel SSD 520 series ?

i'm looking something above 240G and it seem like this 2 series fit the bill.

so far the highest capacity is 480G by intel 520, any bigger capacity from intel ?
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like what hmwgbworld said as well, though look at this perspective as well

Intel 335 240GB have the most best price to GB ratio atm wink.gif (next to Plextor M5S 256GB)

do the math yourself

also, Intel 335 using 20nm Intel Flash memory, lower power consumption if its relevant to you
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QUOTE(marfccy @ May 15 2013, 05:12 AM)
like what hmwgbworld said as well, though look at this perspective as well

Intel 335 240GB have the most best price to GB ratio atm wink.gif (next to Plextor M5S 256GB)

do the math yourself

also, Intel 335 using 20nm Intel Flash memory, lower power consumption if its relevant to you
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because i was think either 335 or 520 intel series to fit into my upcoming Lenovo Y500 notebook.

price wise, is around 200++ differences for 520 compare with 335.

i was kinda attracted with the 5 years warranty given by intel for the 520 series.

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