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kabyss87
post Jun 29 2015, 08:51 PM

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Hi guys, would like to seek your advise on to overhaul or engine swap biggrin.gif

Last year just bought a kenari with 160k milleage on it... i somewhat overlook the engine part and only to came back to discover the engine had built up quite an amount of sludge in it.. when i pull out the dip stick.. the sludge is chunky and like kinda solid.. doh.gif did my regular oil change but the sludge remains inside.

with a bit of budget now, i'm not sure to go for a full overhaul or for an engine swap.. (most should have recommended a yrv engine swap.. damn poison! sweat.gif) However i do not know which choice is more practical and cost effective, as i would like to have this car running for at least another 5 more years.

Please advice biggrin.gif

tqvm
kabyss87
post Jul 1 2015, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jun 30 2015, 03:26 PM)
Engine swap comes with many other costs - if you swap to a more powerful engine, you have to upgrade your suspension/brakes to match or it'll be dangerous. Add to that the fact that if your new engine is heavier than the existing one (YRV falls into this category I believe), your car's handling characteristic will change, making it have more of a nose-heavy feel.

Overhaul would be the cheaper option, but it depends on where you get it done as well as the quality of the job and/or parts used. Prices range from less than 1k all the way up to 5k so it really does depend on your budget.
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thanks for the insight smile.gif

i guess overhaul would be my option as like you say swapping engine would require a total reword on every aspect of the car and i'm doing it with a budget of more or less 2.5k inclusion of changing new engine mount.

in term of about 2k.. assuming engine mount would cost about 500 or so, would the internal parts that is subject to change include those major parts like piston, crankshaft, etc etc?

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kabyss87
post Jul 4 2015, 02:19 PM

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QUOTE(v1n0d @ Jul 1 2015, 07:34 PM)
Not sure about that, sorry.
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No worries bro biggrin.gif


QUOTE(jaesern @ Jul 4 2015, 03:38 AM)
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hi!

my Kenari had auto gearbox problem previously, around early of May. was considering to get k3ve in or just change the gearbox. my rough calculation show me it gonna cost around rm10k.

halfcut + installation, ~rm5k
brakes + installation, ~rm1k
adjustable suspension, ~rm1k

not to mention if anything went wrong with the halfcut engine or brakes that incur more cost; there is a lot of hidden cost that kills! you won't know when you spend bit by bit.

plus also like Vinod mentioned, car handling will change. i personally drove a Kenari once, fitted with k3ve auto + semi slick, no doubt i enjoy straight road very much, but when comes to taking corners the feeling is just not correct.

that's why i got ended up with just the gearbox replacement.

i'll suggest you to get the overhaul done. some tips here, if you have time to lepak in workshop and your mechanic willing to follow what's below:
1. clean the engine from top to bottom; inside to outside;
2. clean and measure clearance for piston ring and main bearing; if it's within the spec, please don't change; if it's out of spec, change when only you/your mechanic able to get to correct spec, if can't, change = no change, vice versa (most of the workshop don't perform this job, wasting time);
3. additional info for statement above, if there is worn or burn mark on main bearing then so sorry you'll have no choice to replace it;
4. grind valve (no worries for most of the workshop);
5. get all the oil seal thingy replaced;
6. new engine head gasket (skim engine head if required);
7. install everything from top to bottom of the engine with correct torque spec;
8. measure the valve shim to get to correct clearance (most of the workshop don't perform this job, wasting time).

yea, so as Vinod mentioned, that's what a ~rm5k job looks like. a cheap one, forget about 2. & 3. & 7. & 8., 5. & 6. most likely not an original parts.

theoretically, it's not require to replace crankshaft, piston, con-rod, valve, camshaft and valve bucket unless it's damaged.

engine mounting cost you rm200++ to rm600++. from genuine Perodua, so called original Daihatsu to third party, you just name it, any shop can get for you.

i'm so sorry if the reply is too long  sweat.gif
hi!

auto or manual? if auto, during Neutral or Drive?

3 piece to be replaced. engine mounting cost you rm200++ to rm600++. from genuine Perodua, so called original Daihatsu to third party, you just name it, any shop can get for you.
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Im not sure those under the tree mechanic would be able to fulfill these steps.. This would seem to be a job better done with authorized service center or some mechanics who are expert in working with kenari.

Initially i thought of just leaving it to my friend's trusted uncle mechanic to get the overhaul done.. Reading ur reply had somehow change my mind as i really want the overhaul to be done right.

Guess i need to hunt around for some really dedicated mechanics before i go ahead..

Thanks for the lengthy explanation! thumbup.gif really appreciate ur feedback


 

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