hi all:

Attended an interview on Tuesday, by 2 HR reps and 2 technical reps.

Process is lengthy 2.5 hours for a permanent position at Hosting-storage.

Hence, i still have few question after the session which i missed out to ask.

1. What the range for permanent staff as in IT (experiences 4-5 yrs)
2. The Petrol& Toll Allowances rm1000 will be terminated and converted to housing/car subsidy in 2009 ,
    Is that good?
3. Heard from this thread T-systems is going to take over, any idea when is it mid 2009 or 2010.?
4. When the dept/team outsource to vendor does permanent staff retain the same salary but diff benefits
5. For outstation ppl

sweat.....man

That all i have...

Thx tishaban  for your input, appreciate that.

Actually, my friend got offered 5 figured with same year experiences on contract basis.

Shell has been interesting so far. The benefits that Shell employees get that people don't usually talk about are:

- if a public holiday falls on Saturday, it's replaced by that Friday instead. 2007 was a bumper year with I think 4 public holidays falling on a Saturday which means 4 long weekends!

- personal development is very much emphasized. You can arrange with your boss to have half a day each week for online training. People can just do online training and get certified, all on company time and money, without getting bonded. It should be related to your job of course. If you're in the leadership track then you get even more attention.

- health & safety are emphasized significantly, to the point where if I stop at a zebra crossing and a car stops to let me pass, I'm 95% sure that the driver works in Shell I'm happy to see that Malaysians can be as good as the Europeans safety wise when their work environment is conducive.

- many teams are truly global teams, there is a fair number of foreigners and a fair number of Malaysians going for short/long term assignments overseas as well. If you're good you'll get the chance to go somewhere.

However there are things I don't like as well...

- people are just not very competitive. They're too laid back, the side effect of being in a rich company.

- promotions are still somewhat age related, it seems as if you need to be a certain age before you can be promoted to a certain level. Sometimes this can be only in name eg. you can be just an analyst and still make RM15k per month or more.

Just my own gripes with Shell

anybody able to tell me how is the outsourcing transition going in SHELL now ?

you from EP ?

what you mean by EP ? CTS UNIX or GLUX ?

CTS UNIX =  1st tier and

GLUX = 2nd and 3rd tier

CTS UNIX = under EDS

GLUX = under T-systems (Hail to the Germans )

p/s sorry to say but EDS is sucks ..

yup.. something like that... u will hear when u receive the offer letter..
good amount they giving for a new grad...
pay scale is depending on experience. they pay the same rate for all business area.
whether you are in exploration or downstream u will get the same rate as their scale is depending ur education level and
experience.

Guys, don't speculate the salary range. It does not help with the expectations of any of these candidates.

well, shell might pay high, but definitely not the highest. This pay is certainly good only for fresh grad...as you progress to experience hire, you will find that shell has a lot of unwanted surprises. 

Unless this fresh grad goes offshore regularly, I say he/she got problem if he/she book that many OT totalling up to RM10k per month, lol.

Can tell me what he/she does to earn that much up to RM10k at office onshore? First I heard of it since I have couple of friends (grads) there.

easily rm10K ? that is not true at all. the max a grad can get is rm4.5K, and for the relocation allowance, as i said it is depending on the person's situation where the person is from ( written in IC ). It is definately not applicable to all, unless you are going to the offshore basis. in Shell, there are a lot of "different companies", which different allocated job group. the one that everyone is shouting about is the company that is in upstream business. But not all graduate will be hired into upstream business 

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Added on September 7, 2011, 12:21 pm

grads are not entitle for any OT(as they are known as senior staff or executive roles), unless it is necessary and instructed by the supervisor to do, but i do believe such things are very seldom.

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Added on September 7, 2011, 12:24 pm

a bit of contracdiction there. how can fresh grad be a team lead ? this is totally impossible, not just in shell but any big companies. and to be frank with you, your statement about team lead and rm10K is really depending on which "company" you are in, in shell. not all team lead gets rm10K  a lot get less...