lighter, better fuel consumption. Performance wise abt the same

u said me in FB SA is me haha

So u choose better performance or better FC?

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Added on September 26, 2012, 1:37 am

I tot nu engine suppose less HP than theta II ?

Bro, so u chose k5 over 408?

Morning ..im planning to do the sound proofing for my k5? anyone did b4? May i know how much the total damage?

Wah getting a car in Dec? In 1 month time, your car will be in its 2nd year of ownership and worth 12-15K less. You should have just waited for a 2013 manufactured model.

Same thoughts here on the RV part too, bro.    I'm also hoping to get mine in 1-2 weeks time. Which outlet u went to?

Similar to yours but my priorities of "mods"/addons are:
1. Tom's Stickers (Exterior protection against scratches & interior brushed aluminium strips -for dash & four doors) - kena poison by http://myk5club.com/ 
2. Floor Mats
3. Sierra Glow
4. Tinting <--- This i have to carefully survey around for reasonable pricing and most importantly good workmanship. Anyone kind enough to advise? I'm still browsing through the humongous mods in the K5 club FB   
5. Foaming+Soundproofing
6. GPS NAV Touchscreen - K5 almost 1 year in m'sia and still no decent ones available?

Bright Silver

Wah so fast bought the tail lights d 

Yeah, have checked out the RhinePro, and it looks good most probably will go for this but need to find the best guy to do it.

I am having the same problem on the USB too. Instead of using Windows 7, I use Windows XP to format the USB and then copy the file to the USB and it seems to solve my problem.

Can download and install XP Mode for Windows 7. Its Windows XP running in Windows 7.

To all sifus out there.. I wanna ask, is it a wise choice to buy a car now or after election? Any opinions out there? Would be appreciated.. Will there be any huge difference in terms of pricing? Because thinking of getting k5 this month..

Finally my baby is back, and what a beauty she is:



Alright, it's time for me to give you guys a status report on my problems. Sorry, I've been busy, couldn't reply here from time to time.

So, after pressuring the KIA people via various channels:
1) Wrote a very detailed email telling the story from A-to-Z, attached videos and pictures to KIA Korea through this system, and also CC-ed to KIA CMD :
KIA DDMS System <-- this is so well hidden that it took me two days to find it.
2) Wrote multiple emails and phone calls to KIA CMD Dept.
3) Paid surprise visits to KIA HQ

So, finally KIA Korea acknowledged my problems and instructed KIA Selayang SC and CMD Dept to contact me immediately (and bloody hell, these Korean fellas disappeared straight away and left the problems to NAZA KIA to handle), and then i finally secured a meeting with CMD personnel, KIA technical personnel, and KIA Selayang Manager at the end of Sept 2012.

so, bla bla bla, i had to take another day off to attend to these people and re-told them the story A-Z, and pointed out all of the problems, and they promised me the following:
1) they'll reimburse my losses pertaining to my windscreen tinting
2) they'll replace all parts that were damaged by their technicians
3) they'll fix all my problems according to KIA factory standards
4) they'll provide me a courtesy car and collect my car from my office, rather than having me go all-the-way to their SC
5) they'll collect my car on the following week
6) they'll give me a status report from time to time, and they'll give me a job report after all things are done
Well, the manager and all who attended the meeting was sincere and apologetic though, so I couldn't get angry and raise my voice, it's KIA Korea's quality control problems anyhow, can't really blame them.

So, I went back waited for a week, no news, and waited another week, still no news. Waited another week (3rd week) still no news. So I couldn't wait anymore and went straight to their HQ CMD for a surprise visit, and not surprisingly, all those who were taking charge of my case was either 'absent' or 'busy' or 'engage' and they sent out an innocent lady to handle me. Sigh, so i talked nicely again and got her to promise me to address my problems on the following week. And they did. Their excuse for such a long delay was lack of courtesy car, and they must que for the cars.

On the following week, no news nor any updates from KIA. So I called and ask, and finally the SC service personnel came to my office with a Forte and collected my car.

For the first two weeks, no news. Then on the third week, KIA CMD called and told me they are ordering parts and fixing the car.

And it took them 5 weeks to get the car ready (and that was after I called and pressured them). So after initial inspection, the following were done:

1) Sunroof noise - mitigated but not rectified by SC Completely erradicated
2) Noisy vibrating speaker grill on the dashboard - SC ignored / forgotten Didn't hear anything initially, but i heard something today, still assessing
3) Really loud seat knocking noise - Rectified, tighten up something underneath Completely erradicated
4) Lousy rear view mirror that makes noise - SC said common, didn't plan to fix they replaced it, much better now, but still not good enough
5) Creaking rear suspensions - SC said changed the absorbers, still creaking now They said it's the parking brake shoes that are causing the sound, didn't fix it
6) Free play in lumbar support - SC said common, but willing to replace the entire driver seat that costs RM4k if i'm still not happy after Raya Didn't replace, just tighten it, much much much better now, but still got a bit sound and "feeling" but I don't plan to pursue this matter anymore
7) Loud and lousy windscreen wipers that didn't work in rain - SC totally ignored, hell, i think i'll get myself a pair of silicon wipers Didn't test, still assessing
8) Slight noise in driver side b-pillar (only when driving on really rough roads) This one i plan to ignore if they can't detect it. Didn't test, still assessing
9) KIA Selayang SC scratched my A, B, C, Z pillar plastic trims they replaced all the ABCZ pillar trims, but now i'm worried when the airbag will burst at my head 
10) and also left multiple black grease marks on my ceiling, pillars they replaced all the ABCZ pillar trims
11) and also poked and left some marks on my rear leather seat they ordered the rear seat, to be replaced
12) and also left some prying marks on my dashboard soft plastic trim they tried to press it back, still a bit bulging, i don't plan to pursue any further
13) and also pry-ed and damaged the little plastic covers covering the screws at the door handles (inside ones, not outside) they ordered the little covers, to be replaced

Over all, the chaps at Selayang SC are very helpful and attentive when you are there. The CMD HQ people are really ignorant and unattentive. I'll write in a recommendation letter to the HQ for the Selayang Boys after they fix everything for me.

Say, if all or part of my problems reoccur in the next few days/weeks, do you thing I should go back to KIA or just send them a legal letter/letter of demand? The problems started on the second week of ownership and it took them 10-months to solve a few problems (to be exact, the car was left at the SC for 3-months, and I only kept the car for 6 agonizing months).

So, any fellows here facing similar problems? I think I'm experienced enough to guide you here.

Ahh, interesting. Where can I contact MYK5Club? Facebook? I'm really annoyed right now, and I'm planning to get Pusat Khidmat Aduan Pengguna Nasional (NCCC) and MITI involved. At the same time i'm compiling the necessary materials to take a legal action against them.
I've just tested it out, my (2) Noisy speaker grill is still there. Bro, somehow this is the most difficult part to solve and it is the top three most annoying things that can happen to your brand new K5, namely (1) Noisy Speaker grill (2) Lumbar support free-play (3) Noisy sunroof

Can someone confirm something for me? I notice whenever our cars go over potholes or even roads, there's always a click sound somewhere, either the dash, or the rear view mirror area. Is this normal? or Am I too sensitive? 

Ive found this on a number of test cars as well. So might be a common problem. But keep raising up such issues with Naza CMD. But enure that your emails have a proper title for easy reference. For example:

'Kia Optima K5 Problems - (nature of problem) - (number plate)'

CMD sometimes loves to respond verbally. Do not encourage this. In my case when they call to update me on something, ill tell them to follow up with an email or i will do so. Its important to get everything logged in writing.

So guys, please start emailing your problems to cmd@naza.com.my. Dont bother going through your SA's for this. Just email CMD and they will get the service centre to attend to you. If you just walk into a SC, the problem is usually not brought up to Naza HQ.

If you need to speak to someone in particular, you can talk to Zaidi. If im not mistaken, he is the Head of customer service at Naza HQ. Quite a nice chap.

Thanks Bro, will check it out ! 

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Added on December 12, 2012, 4:36 pm

Thanks for your recommendation, appreciated! 

First of all get your criterias right. Why bother coming here and then using just 1 criteria to compare? Buying a car is about looking at the WHOLE package. There is no single perfect car out there. Not even a Porsche gives you everything you want in a car.

I would consider the following 11 criteria:

1) Price
2) Safety
3) Specifications
4) Design
5) Comfort
6) Interior space
7) Build quality / durability
8) Ride, handling, power
9) After sales service
10) Maintenance costs including fuel consumption
11) Warranty terms

Judge all cars based on these criteria. You can give ratings for each criteria. Without looking at the whole picture, u can never make an informed decision.

I have spent considerable time testing various cars before making my decision. For me, the K5 excels in point 1,2,3,4,6 and 11 compared to other Japanese D segments.

As for the other points:

Point 5 - It isnt very comfortable as its got 18 inch rims and a suspension thats tuned for performance and not comfort like the Camry or Teana.

Point 7 - Unknown at this point but so far im happy

Point 8 - Its road grip is quite good thanks to the 18 inch tyres and lower profile. Handling can be improved but the new K5 might have addressed this with its electric steering. Has good power putput figures too (on paper) but needs improvement with power delivery. Not sure if the new K5 engine has adressed this.

Point 9 - Its still below Toyota standards but much better compared to maybe 3 years ago. Still got room for improvement

Point 10 - Unknown at this point. Fuel consumption is quite good despite the weight but the Japanese would still be slightly better here.

The Kia Optima K5 isnt the best D segment in the market and its far from perfect for sure. But do remember that ure only paying RM 143,888 (OTR before discount). Yes you may find some better cars out there but you are also paying for any advantage you may find. The specs and equipment found on the K5 beats even the new Camry 2.5V which costs 40K more. Yes you may lose out with after sales service and possibly future resale value but you get alot more in return.

As always, i remind you to give safety a serious consideration over resale value, etc. You cannot put a price on your life and the lives of your loved ones.