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May 4 2015, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(myw66 @ May 4 2015, 12:58 PM) guys, im new to UT but have been studying abit of it and start looking at the performance chart. just wondering is it a good time to start investing now? :/ Do's and Don'ts of Choosing a Unit Trust FundDo •Decide which type of unit trust fund meets your saving needs. •Shop around for a reliable unit trust company. •Check whether investment limits and frequency of income payments are suitable. •Check past performance records. Don't •Don't choose any unit trust fund just because its performance was good. Instead, make sure the fund meets your risk appetite and financial goals. •Don't pay too much attention to short term performance as good consistent performance over all periods is the best lead. •Don't decide on a unit trust fund simply because it has low charges. Strong management of the fund is far more important. •Don't borrow to invest in unit trust unless you are absolutely aware of the risks involved. http://www.publicmutual.com.my/Resources/U...ustLessons.aspx |
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May 6 2015, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(johnchew91 @ May 6 2015, 02:48 PM) To all sifus, I'm new to unit trust. Currently I'm holding fund below. Mind to give some comments or opinion on how to build my portfolio. PEBF (PUBLIC ENHANCED BOND FUND) PBAREIF (PB ASIA REAL ESTATE INCOME FUND) PFETIF (PUBLIC FAR-EAST TELCO & INFRASTRUCTURE FUND) PBCPEF (PB CHINA PACIFIC EQUITY FUND) PSSCF (PUBLIC STRATEGIC SMALLCAP FUND) RM10K in each fund.. My previous PM UTC asked me a lot of questions and have to fill up some sort of suitability assessment quiz before I was recommended some UTs for my consideration. may I suggest that you ask your UTC, while waiting for responses here. (maybe have to wait longer...there was a post#2902 had yet to be responded since 23 Apr)..... in the meantime try reading some of these if you want... What Are The Three Rules Of Investing? Choosing A Professional Fund Management Company : Why Can't I Do It Myself? Selecting The Right Unit Trust - How Do I Find A Unit Trust That Fits My Objective? Why Do I Have To Spend All That Time Reading A Prospectus? http://www.publicmutual.com.my/Resources/U...ns/Lesson8.aspx Do's and Don'ts of Choosing a Unit Trust Fund http://www.publicmutual.com.my/Resources/U...ns/Lesson7.aspx what should you expects from a UTC? You should expect the UTC to deal with you in an open, honest and professional manner. The role of a UTC is to actively provide information during his “interview” with you and thereafter, on an ongoing basis to review your portfolio of unit trust investment as and when the economy or your personal circumstance changes. He should recommend portfolios that best suit your needs, personal circumstances and financial goals. https://www.fimm.com.my/investor/faqs/ I am not a UTC...therefore not qualify to advise thus not a sifu too This post has been edited by MUM: May 6 2015, 08:49 PM |
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May 11 2015, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 07:41 PM) i disagree to rule 3 of the donts in mf investing noted...expense ratio/turnover rate/capital gains plays a crucial role in the cost of your investment and can significantly impact you return over the long term. assuming that the cost of this instrument is 3-4% of the total fund annually -this literally means the fund managers bettter deliver a MINIMAL consistent cagr gains of 3-4 % above the benchmark index to justify their not inexpensive fees historical evidence suggest that most fund managers underperformed the benchmark index over the long run just up to individual the believes what he wants to believes. just like some believes that "historical evidence suggest that most fund managers underperformed the benchmark index over the long run" does not applies to some local funds. because they believes some local funds are hitting their benchmarks frequently.....and are very happy with them already. This post has been edited by MUM: May 11 2015, 07:55 PM |
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May 11 2015, 08:09 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 07:57 PM) well its not a hearsay or voodoo science -its a fact that actively managed funds fails and fails miserably over the long term to beat the benchmark index is simply becos of the exorbitant mutual fund fees. what is the number of years for long terms in your definition?well what 'frequently' means in your assayed or assessment of mutual funds? you mean local funds are not in for the marathon ? implying that they are all for short term bets ?anyway whats the time horizon of those 'coveted'funds? |
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May 11 2015, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:07 PM) Ok...as I had mentioned earlier..it is for individual believes.some believes that for funds that can gives an anualised return of > 10% for the last 10 years AFTER deducting all expenses and charges.....they are already happy with that. (yes, past performance does not means further performance.....) so if the other some that does not believes it is worth while.....then it is their believes too. This post has been edited by MUM: May 11 2015, 09:12 PM |
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May 11 2015, 09:20 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:16 PM) well i would be immensely impressed with mutual funds that can deliver a consistent return of 10% annually provided the benchmark is much lower than 10%.if it only tracks the index perhaps indexing will provide a much better return instead i think the some believe ROI is more important than benchmark or whatever it tracks. |
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May 11 2015, 09:23 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:20 PM) in investment the returns and risks can be quantified- its not a personal issue or believe.facts that can be accounted for are not to be slighted but these quantified risk are managed and monitored by the fund manager....the some would just believes in seeing consistent impressive annualized ROI records.This post has been edited by MUM: May 11 2015, 09:23 PM |
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May 11 2015, 09:25 PM
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May 11 2015, 09:37 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:29 PM) well presumably you are the financial adviser if not pls check with the financial planners -they can provide you with a synopsis of return vs risk metrics . i m here to participate in a discourse on fund investing not educating the masses as i believes these "return vs risk metrics" or any "technical terms used by the other some.....should be handled by the fund manager as they have the financial adviser and planner and BIG computers....then i believes some would just be happy if the fund can give an annalised returns of > 10% for the past 10 years. i believes if you want to participate in the discourse on fund investing....particularly your post in 2931.....then it is best to talk to the originator of that article....the website and contacts are there too......and not educating the masses here. |
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May 11 2015, 09:38 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:34 PM) if the investor does not even know about the risk reward characteristic of the fund,he should refrain from investing in the instrument.its not good to talk only about return-the average investor must also know the amount of risk he is undertaking for this expected rate of return as i had said...some believes and are happy with that. |
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May 11 2015, 09:47 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:42 PM) risk vs rewards are simple mathematical formula-readily available in most prospectus or annual report -the average investor needs only to peruse the performance against the benchmark index thats it full stop there are always 2 sides of a coin....i wont even bother to go into the intricate details do you understand the english word -discourse wellfyi it means debate there are always 2 views on a half glass of water.... if want to debate about the point 3......you know where to get the contact of the originator of that article. like you just mentioned.....why educating the masses here by debating? This post has been edited by MUM: May 11 2015, 09:47 PM |
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May 11 2015, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE(lizardjeremy @ May 11 2015, 09:48 PM) well perhaps we should conduct all discussions with this i believe stuff , relegate and consigned all scientific or financial theories to some inconsequential rubbish bin.nobel price winners like sharpe,markowitz who have contributed to modern day investment be denigrated as mere silly fellows as i believe is of lesser intelligence to i believe investors |
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May 11 2015, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(T231H @ May 12 2015, 07:10 AM) I believes, they "would/should" have been used by the FH or rating agencies.... I and some of us that whom are "just small retail investors" would just have to "believes" at the past performance track records, lipper rating, morning stars, fsm star rating, our own portfolio allocation needs and risk appetite in making the decision to buy or sell. btw,...making "informed" decision may not mean "correct" decision. wondering whether these analyzing tools had been established in 1999? wondering what did the analyzing data compute about the DOT COM? must be "positive" I think.....else most dot com funds would have bailed out.. |
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