My sukuk switched in May just showing 0.15% increase... a simple annualised figure would be 0.26%.
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Public Mutual v4, Public/PB series funds
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Dec 20 2013, 09:41 PM
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The updated NAV prices seemed to be a bit late tonight... maybe due to the "big" jump in the bonds and sukuks.
My sukuk switched in May just showing 0.15% increase... a simple annualised figure would be 0.26%. |
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Dec 20 2013, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 20 2013, 04:38 PM) Fixed income investment instrument are someting like BOND and FD,where the yield rate already fixed. Makan bubur this year if depending on bond/sukuk fund to give returns. The income distributions by these funds will 'eat' into the principal amount (eg. its current value is less than its invested amount)... alright to those investors who need these annual distributions for "regular income", but to investors in the accumulation stage, it is advisable to hold more equities.Also we hv Annual Income investment aka Equity Fund with constant dividend type. It may hv plenty synonyms name; most important the investor understand they Fix Income category invested and Equity Annual income categoty. Both deliver objective want regular income but different type of instrument and risk. There is no guarantee in unit trusts even in bonds or sukuks. The closes thing to FD would be the money-market funds which is just below FD rate at about 2.8%. A fixed income can also refer as any fund that has annual income distribution policy stated in its prospectus. A good example of a fixed income fund is Public Bond Fund, which is closed. Some equities, like PDSF, also has annual distribution policy. The 'fixed income' refer by Xuzen in the Equity/Bond ratio would refer to money-market/bonds/sukuk funds... as these funds might not necessary provide a fixed stable income as it used to be (as proven in the sharp drop in bond funds recently) but will not drop much in value when compare to equity funds in an adverse market. Try holding 100% in equities when you are already past the accumulation stage... |
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Dec 20 2013, 11:10 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 20 2013, 10:57 PM) Makan bubur this year if depending on bond/sukuk fund to give returns. The income distributions by these funds will 'eat' into the principal amount (eg. its current value is less than its invested amount)... alright to those investors who need these annual distributions for "regular income", but to investors in the accumulation stage, it is advisable to hold more equities. There is no guarantee in unit trusts even in bonds or sukuks. The closes thing to FD would be the money-market funds which is just below FD rate at about 2.8%. A fixed income can also refer as any fund that has annual income distribution policy stated in its prospectus. A good example of a fixed income fund is Public Bond Fund, which is closed. Some equities, like PDSF, also has annual distribution policy. The 'fixed income' refer by Xuzen in the Equity/Bond ratio would refer to money-market/bonds/sukuk funds... as these funds might not necessary provide a fixed stable income as it used to be (as proven in the sharp drop in bond funds recently) but will not drop much in value when compare to equity funds in an adverse market. Try holding 100% in equities when you are already past the accumulation stage... This post has been edited by yklooi: Dec 20 2013, 11:15 PM |
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Dec 20 2013, 11:27 PM
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Dec 21 2013, 06:22 AM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 20 2013, 10:57 PM) Makan bubur this year if depending on bond/sukuk fund to give returns. The income distributions by these funds will 'eat' into the principal amount (eg. its current value is less than its invested amount)... alright to those investors who need these annual distributions for "regular income", but to investors in the accumulation stage, it is advisable to hold more equities. Yupe..true...hope my example didnt confuse nightstar type of invesment which is annual distribution and fixed income.There is no guarantee in unit trusts even in bonds or sukuks. The closes thing to FD would be the money-market funds which is just below FD rate at about 2.8%. A fixed income can also refer as any fund that has annual income distribution policy stated in its prospectus. A good example of a fixed income fund is Public Bond Fund, which is closed. Some equities, like PDSF, also has annual distribution policy. The 'fixed income' refer by Xuzen in the Equity/Bond ratio would refer to money-market/bonds/sukuk funds... as these funds might not necessary provide a fixed stable income as it used to be (as proven in the sharp drop in bond funds recently) but will not drop much in value when compare to equity funds in an adverse market. Try holding 100% in equities when you are already past the accumulation stage... thank clarify. |
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Dec 21 2013, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE(felixmask @ Dec 21 2013, 06:22 AM) Yupe..true...hope my example didnt confuse nightstar type of invesment which is annual distribution and fixed income. Don't worry, we don't leave our brains behind coming into the internet for information... but looking at the past 2 pages, it does not give much confidence whether this is true. thank clarify. Regarding the bond/equity ratio formula, it is a general guide. In the accumulation stage (or initial stage of investing into unit trust), it could be 100% in equities regardless of your age. In fact, it should be 100% in equities. As posted recently, it is silly to purchase bond fund as a new investment (with service charge of 1%), unless the bond fund is a means to park the money for switching in a more regular mode into an equity fund. This is a good strategy (using DCA method) especially with EPF withdrawals, which can only be withdrawn once every 3 months. By the way, it was announced that the new service charge of 1% was on bond funds. Is it specifically on bond funds and not including money-market funds? Revision of Sales Charge on Bond Funds With effect from 1 October 2013, the sales charge on Bond Funds (except PIN BOND) will be revised from 0.25% to 1% of NAV. |
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Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM
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Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager, would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate.
Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance. This post has been edited by XtraLeoGecko: Dec 21 2013, 11:53 AM |
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Dec 21 2013, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM) Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager, would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate. does it suit your risk profile?Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance. pro and con http://www.publicmutual.com.my/LinkClick.a...GVo%3D&tabid=86 |
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Dec 21 2013, 02:21 PM
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Dec 21 2013, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM) Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager, would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate. Easiest way is to go down to SG and buy global mutual fund there. Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance. Or, get in contact with a Licensed Financial Planner and get them to open a global wrap account domiciled at one of those zero tax country like Cayman Island, Isle of Mann, Monaco. Minimum investment is RM 150K only cheap cheap nia. Xuzen |
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Dec 21 2013, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(xuzen @ Dec 21 2013, 02:34 PM) Easiest way is to go down to SG and buy global mutual fund there. The easiest way is switching into any foreign funds like Public Australia Equity Fund, Public Singapore Equity Fund or Public Global Select Fund. Which was the 3 foreign funds in my Supreme Buy-and-Hold portfolio model. Or, get in contact with a Licensed Financial Planner and get them to open a global wrap account domiciled at one of those zero tax country like Cayman Island, Isle of Mann, Monaco. Minimum investment is RM 150K only cheap cheap nia. Xuzen All the foreign funds would have the related country risk as well as its currency risk. The currency risk will hedge against the ringgit. Good time to buy PSGEF; the STI index is still below its 200-day moving average. |
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Dec 22 2013, 09:35 PM
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Invested Public Ittikal Fund since 2008 and do monthly repayment of RM 100, not bad so far. =)
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Dec 22 2013, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(j.passing.by @ Dec 20 2013, 10:57 PM) Makan bubur this year if depending on bond/sukuk fund to give returns. The income distributions by these funds will 'eat' into the principal amount (eg. its current value is less than its invested amount)... alright to those investors who need these annual distributions for "regular income", but to investors in the accumulation stage, it is advisable to hold more equities. I plan to switch my PSBF to PIX next Feb. Bit regret to have switched it from PIX to PSBF previously.There is no guarantee in unit trusts even in bonds or sukuks. The closes thing to FD would be the money-market funds which is just below FD rate at about 2.8%. A fixed income can also refer as any fund that has annual income distribution policy stated in its prospectus. A good example of a fixed income fund is Public Bond Fund, which is closed. Some equities, like PDSF, also has annual distribution policy. The 'fixed income' refer by Xuzen in the Equity/Bond ratio would refer to money-market/bonds/sukuk funds... as these funds might not necessary provide a fixed stable income as it used to be (as proven in the sharp drop in bond funds recently) but will not drop much in value when compare to equity funds in an adverse market. Try holding 100% in equities when you are already past the accumulation stage... |
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Dec 23 2013, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE(XtraLeoGecko @ Dec 21 2013, 11:51 AM) Hi all sifu, I would like to diversify outside MY to hedge against devaluation of ringgit. Also, since v pay money to fund manager, would like a fund which fund mgr could move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate. The concept of "move around the funds to different sectors / regional / bonds / as appropriate." is ideal. If a fund manager can switch into the right category at the appropriate time, the fund would a run-away success.Am thinking of Tactical Allocation Fund, kindly let me hv ur comments or other recommendations. ... thx in advance. However, no such run-away fund exists AFAIK, locally or overseas. Locally there is Tactical Allocation from PM @ ~11%, or HL Strategic Fund @~15% for the past year. Not spectacular. Quite "average", or below even. This post has been edited by howszat: Dec 23 2013, 12:23 AM |
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Dec 23 2013, 09:35 PM
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Dear Unitholder, We are pleased to attach the market wrap and bond market review for the week/fortnight ended 13 December 2013 for your information. Regards Customer Service
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Dec 24 2013, 09:45 AM
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hello, if I wish to close my public mutual account, can I just walk in any public mutual branch to close it? Maybe like submit my IC and fill in some forms?
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Dec 24 2013, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(vandoren @ Dec 24 2013, 09:45 AM) hello, if I wish to close my public mutual account, can I just walk in any public mutual branch to close it? Maybe like submit my IC and fill in some forms? Yes, basicly PM office can do everything except receiving payment or give payment. That need to manage with bank. |
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Dec 24 2013, 12:30 PM
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Dec 24 2013, 07:27 PM
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Dec 25 2013, 07:50 PM
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QUOTE(transit @ Dec 4 2013, 01:03 PM) U need RM24,750 to get maximum SA premium at RM2,475 for RM500k coverage. RM500k SA is the maximum plan under AIA MLP2. just saw this in the application form.RM 300K, RM 400K and RM 500k...is only applicable for applicants aged 50 and below at date of application. |
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