How do you define self sufficieny? There ae already plenty of people staying in Semenyih/

It is not about the nunmber of developers but rather the demand of the market. But again, that is the debatable topic, and up to everyone inteepretation and opinion.

Seriously, I dont see SP Setia quality is top notch in general based upon the following:

1. Material used in SEP, SA are not really good quality type (comparing to similar type of property with similar pricing)
2. Building quality (workmanship) is acceptable

Marketing wise .... they are good and township wise, they are good in SA .... but whether or not a township is considered success or not, many other factor involved.

Service wise, they are good. This is very assuring unlike some of the top 10 developers.

I personally like SEG though.

[quote=UFO-ET,Mar 8 2013, 07:20 PM]
[quote=Vector88,Mar 8 2013, 07:09 PM]
It is not just pure branding, IMHO.
It is about the track record, on its ability to deliver what is planned and promised.
Unlike some developements, what is planned remained on paper, what is executed are just rows are rows of houses and nothing else.
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I think only SPS & Samling Group can simply choose any location and sell like hot cakes

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I guess that is the risk as well because price already factored in the brand. In other words, the risk is lower with established developer but the gain is also lower