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 Scenaria at north kiara hill, another project by UOA

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post Nov 27 2012, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(hpwai @ Nov 25 2012, 08:15 PM)
The 20% discount from developer goes like this...
- 5% rebate upon signing of SPA (means no downpayment, NOT 5% DISCOUNT, as you need to pay the developer 5% deposit. In other words, you are just getting your money back)
- 5% rebate for progressive billing (means DIBS, NOT 5% DISCOUNT. With DIBS you still need to pay the principal portion of your bank loan, does not mean you need not pay anything)
- 10% rebate upon VP (rebate of 10% 3 years later is around 7-8% now? Do consider 3 years inflation.

As the above post have mentioned, it is really just 10% discount, if not less than 10% discount.

So, if any of the sales person tell you otherwise, please please clarify with them. I am writing this post because I can't stand to see some uncles and aunties who simply needs a better place to stay (mostly staying nearby) being mislead into believing that they are getting 20% discount and the price psf they are paying is merely RM500++. It is actually about RM660psf - RM750psf and above, depending on the layout and floor.

Developer claimed to be building the development on the elevated land, this is only true for Block A. If you notice, even the location of Block A is lower than the current land where the current show gallery is built. Block B's land is much lower.

From the front of Block A or B, if you look to your right, there is a Malay cemetery.

From the back of Block A or B, there is a big mosque in Segambut Dalam.

There is also a drain, clouded with muddy water all the time, exactly behind the development.

The actual location is Taman Sri Sinar, Segambut, 51200 KL.

Developer claimed to have an access road directly to the hospital at Desa Parkcity. However this has yet been approved. More than 5 years ago, I remembered Bukit Prima Pelangi has sold their property mentioning their access road to Desa Parkcity too.

The plus point of this development is the Freehold land and high ceiling.

If my rough calculation is correct, 3 years later, you will need to sell your unit at at least RM920psf to break even. Not mentioning making any profit.
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Agree!!!! I am staying at Sri Srnar and confirmed address is SS Segambut unless magic is there. Went there also last Sunday, really full of people and sale chart shows almost 50% occupied. I wonder this development can really make profit at this price and it suits for own stay maybe. if you were DPC resident, do you think road access as proposed will be granted??? Anyway, one thiing I sure is UOA is a good developer that mostly deliver on time, one good example is Plaza Menjalara.



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post Nov 27 2012, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 27 2012, 12:10 PM)
i dont think this project can appreciate more in near future since developer price oledy at 500++ psf which is equal to current subsale price at much more better location like mont kiara and sentul....

but if u buy for own stay, don worry, UOA sure will deliver a very nice condo...and the compound for this area is huge, so will have exclusive feel...

for me...whether got link to desa park city or not, not really matter........what for you wan to go for desa park city everyday since DPC is residential area?...

i prefer they should do some thing like widen the jalan segambut which lead to KL direction....the jam at jalan segambut near mandy villa is nightmare
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Road access to DPC and Bukit Prima Pelangi do a matter as they provide alternative accces for the residents rather than ready access via Prima Tiara where already congested with both side of road parked with cars making 2 lanes narrowing into 1 lane. Furthermore, just imagine there are over 900 units in Scenaria, a densed development, real nightmare is to be happened later. Thus, access plays an important role . one example of bad access is regalia @ jalan sultan ismail or in fact jalan kuching, it is a strategic located but with ever bad access leading hundred of units unsold even it gives you promotion - real zero enrty cost @ 650psf.
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post Nov 27 2012, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(shawnk @ Nov 27 2012, 02:23 PM)
The DPC lake is nice and it's available for public visit. Not to mention the shoplots there as well as school. It can be a good selling point as well IMO.
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It is a good marketing point so developer does but I think it is hardly come into reality.


Added on November 27, 2012, 3:16 pm
QUOTE(doomdoom @ Nov 27 2012, 01:33 PM)
but bear in mind..UOA just proposed to do extra road access, it's not approve yet...and this is not stated in SNP....so at the end, might nothing happen
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yes, prospect buyers shall not think twice about it if thinking this is likely one of your buying point.

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post Nov 28 2012, 08:45 AM

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QUOTE(brianccg @ Nov 27 2012, 04:50 PM)
The road from Segambut to Sri Sinar is SUXXX..

I stuck 1 hour from Segambut to Kepong Menjalara.

The road widening still in progress and after the bridge and go down... it is 1 lane up and 1 lane down. (I dont think government can widen this road as the land is Malay reserve land???)

For me.. 700K, better go and get Tamarind or Saffron in Sentul
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sometimes i suffer then same. hopefully one day whole route from M Avenue till the bridge will be upgraded/widen to ease traffic.
if you come from jalan kuching maybe can consider take quarter kerajaan exit and follow along dutamas to sk segambut.
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post Nov 28 2012, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(spurswong @ Nov 28 2012, 10:18 AM)
The current upgrading of Jalan Segambut from the bridge/Chinese school will eventually link up to Jalan Segambut at Segambut Dalam to Plaza Mont Kiara (Jln Kiara 4 IIANM) making the road in front of Mandy Villa and Jalan Kiara 3 secondary roads. 1st phase expected to complete Nov 2013. Squatter relocation for Jln Kiara 4 to Plaza MK in its initial stages is being done. Road to DPC a bonus if it happens.
If there were no road upgrades, this project will not be able to sell as there are better alternatives at this price elsewhere with better infrastructure as already mentioned.
So, it's basically taking a punt on the road improvement in the Segambut Dalam area and the reputation of the developer, however nebulous this concept is.
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Where you find this information? I was trying to find and find no resource. Good to know what is going on around neighbourhood.
But as long as bottleneck around M-Avenue/Mandy Villa unsolved, I think traffic condition woundn't approved so much as this is main road to City Centre.
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post Nov 28 2012, 03:44 PM

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never hear about it... but possible??? linking to sri sinar more possible as just 1 min walking distance apart which I did before.
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post Nov 28 2012, 04:30 PM

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I feel the same. Knowing this is kind of marketing gimmick but what's wrong with name of Segambut/Sri Sinar, a true fact.

BTW, I think this develoment will make Sri Sinar terrace houses become more affordable and demanding then appreaciates... one of my closed friend who staying at 2-storey house next to KFC told me his house been appreaciated almost double since he bought in early 2009.
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post Dec 3 2012, 09:40 AM

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It could be both for own stay or investment but location wise is considered, investment not a good approach.
Example is Sri Putras I, II & III, more densed than this development but has quick access to Jalan Kuching. Market will make determination later. smile.gif


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QUOTE(LSSY @ Dec 3 2012, 09:40 AM)
It could be both for own stay or investment but location wise is considered, investment not a good approach.
Example is Sri Putras I, II & III, more densed than this development but has quick access to Jalan Kuching. Market will make determination later.  smile.gif
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Correction: Sri Putramas

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post Dec 11 2012, 04:50 PM

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Do you guys notice that almost everyday we see in paper people are complaining current propoerty price is not affordable and soring high but every new launching seems catching quite good response as long as under sound location and developer. WHERE IS PROPERTY BUBBLE??? Demand is always there suiting supply. Just my view... Soon and sooner 4-digit psf is COMING... don't you think so?
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post Dec 12 2012, 11:36 AM

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I think bubble will happen one day but not likely to happen within 10 or 15 years from now.
As you can see, a lot of launching coming up to cater increasing population in Greater KL. Reason: plenty of job opportunities.
A lot of infrastrucrural projetcs taking place from now on either small scale or mega project e.g. MRT, Tun Razak Exchange (TRX), KL Metropolis, River of Life (ROL) etc... one can suspect the successful of these developments but as a true malaysian, I have to believe and be positive thinking. we are towards developed nation.

My thought, there are still a lot of affordable properties and you can see in any property website by ranging up your affordable range but question is people nowadays are more selective into comfortable area and location. me too in fact thus making hot area being demanding and kept the price in north trend. Noticed that major buying group are youngster now compared to parent's time. Just imagine a couple married at 28 and yelling for un-affordable houses due to limited income (still considered junior entry into sosial. What is wrong doing with rent? smile.gif

Conclusion: property price will trending north in 10-15 years in steady pace.
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post Dec 27 2012, 10:37 AM

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Yes. Of course $$ will increase perhaps by 50-100 psf more. This tactic being used most of the developers...
As a truly Sinarian, I hope this development will bring prosperity to Sri Sinar. I think it do, at least will make more affordable landed 2-storey houses more demanding. I receive almost everyweek about leaflet from real estate agent asking if property wanna sell. Again traffic is a headache to be resolved...
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Dec 27 2012, 10:57 AM)
would be less than that I suppose
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I hope so... smile.gif but i dare to say practically not... what will early buyers feel if really do???

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post Dec 28 2012, 09:02 AM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Dec 27 2012, 02:25 PM)
what if later potential buyers feel???
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early birds will always get the best price as rule applies.
answer 2u: latter buyers will have to pay higher.
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post Dec 28 2012, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Dec 28 2012, 10:12 AM)
if too high the increase in the wrong time, it's a shame to reduce price after not enough take up.
answer 2u: later potential buyers are not everybody robert or lulu

And, I bet you've never seen later phase was selling almost the same price as early phase, or even lower than that (but then they normally made it different specs), or stop further launching until some times later.
By the way, the above statement I don't mean this project will; but 50psf~100psf like what had you written, personally, I don't think so .. but who knows, you could be right after all  rclxub.gif
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one question 2u, if the price would be remained then why not open at the same time since project going to complete simultaneously? this is how developer test the market/buyers sentiment and take advantage if it was well received.

price increase can be any way and i.e. rebate will be reduced thus make actual to-paid $$ increase aka psf increase.

yup, i never see a well-receipt project pull the price to south in latter launches, maybe you can provide some examples. shocking.gif
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post Dec 28 2012, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(ecin @ Dec 28 2012, 11:11 AM)
one question 2u: you're so firm about the 50psf~100psf increase in the next phase, from what base-s in your "prediction"?
overwhelming response for this project? Are you dead serious? Do you've data on-hand?
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forum is for discussion and sharing of thought and not for other purpose...

answer for you:
use mind to think a simple math: a 1000sf unit with rm500k for example, 50psf increase eqeal to 10% rebate call off; 100psf increase for 20% rebate call off. even thought i do not say it must be but for discussion i guess may be.
use eye to see preceding post, 80% take-up not considered good response??? even though i do not say it was overwhelming but based on fact, i think so.

throuwing question again n again is your way to answer people's question???
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post Jan 1 2013, 12:48 AM

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QUOTE(ressko @ Dec 30 2012, 05:18 PM)
Myb reserved for singaporean buyers.
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Any particular reason?
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post Jan 3 2013, 11:04 AM

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A good suggestion, I think.

Other alternative is Plaza Medan Putra which is more affordable. Noticed its commercial shoptlot start gaining attraction with few restaurant opening e.g. Subway, Chinese style food etc.
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QUOTE(Giant @ Jan 3 2013, 11:52 AM)
My friends owned a unit of medan putra, too bad he had to rent it to a Africans tenant, the building started to occupied by Africans already sleep.gif""
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I see. Too bad to hear that...

Because I passby everyday and spot the development and think it has advantages as just next to DPC, matured amenities of medan putra etc.

Maybe Menjalara Tower (8 Kok Lau) can consider as well.
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post Jan 4 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(syk @ Dec 29 2012, 01:42 PM)
Here the other end, car can pass the road but no tar yet...

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Access from Prima Impian to Prima Pelangi is WIP...

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went there last weekend to have a look. the route already formed but only accesseable by padestrian, bike n motor.

if u notice down along the road (opposite prima impian), they form a strength of high class residential, Scenaria (3 storey super link) > The Serai (semi-D) > Seri Segambut (3 storey super link) > Laman Bayu (Bungalow).
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MRT line 2, in Matrade, by 2020...
MRT line 3, in Kepong, by 2030...
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