There ya go .. Viva is "Best Local Assembled Family Car Awarded".


This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 3 2012, 11:05 AM

Nah .. not Proton. Too many bugs and unfulfilled promises. They still need to clean up their act. Proton currently can only get the .. "After 2 decades, still kenot get power window right award"

Hence the award goes to Viva, the pasar malam/pagi/petang and shopping etc car.

This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 3 2012, 11:19 AM

I digress. IMHO, Viva is only good in terms of cheap and easy to park

Which is cheaper? Viva or Kelisa? The cheaper one gets the award

Too easy to blame the vendor. If a vendor continues to supply you with sub-standard products, hold their payment until they address it OR impose a penalty comprising the cost of replacement. With this many cars already on the road, the manufacturer has plenty of time/feedback to address this. So the ball lies penultimately with the manufacturer, Proton.

This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 3 2012, 11:41 AM

If ini macam, better close shop la. There's no justifying producing shitty products. How are we the consumers to accept such crappy excuses? I cannot accept. Can you?

This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 3 2012, 11:47 AM

Apologies, I edited my previous post. Please refer back.

Ya lor. It's for this exact reason why Proton shouldn't get the award.

Okay la, give +1 more point but this car must be driven with utmost care. If head-on with another car as big & heavy as Preve, sure habis liao

Doesn't the GPS share the same antenna? Would changing to shark fin affect it?

Not too sure about this but since our HU comes per-equipped with GPS, the authorities can track us if they wanted to.

Give us your review on how Preve handles the corners.

Going up, 'S' mode is fine. Next time, try your ascent with the manual shifters. Use the gear shift and not the paddle shift. One thing to note about Genting. On the final ascent if you're not on shifters, do not to have aircond on. Preve's really heavy. You will feel it there. Struggling on this final ascent stage is detrimental to the car.

On the way up, I'm usually quite fast. When going back down, I'm a totally different creature; takut accident. I'm mindful that the car is heavy and would take the corners slowly. Same story when on Karak highway. On the way to Genting, driving with gusto. Going back time, really 'uncle' styled driving.

That's what I thought. I love the way it doesn't lose track when tackling corners. Preve's centre of gravity is quite high and the car does roll a fair bit. My wira feels better planted on the road. On the highway, I'm not confident on high speed long bends. Will likely add in some bars later.

Agree on the rigidity of the body. That's one of Preve's strong points. I would have thought an anti roll bar may be of help.

Do need to shove brake pedal hard when going downhill. I attribute that to the weight of the car and characteristics of the CVT (You might have missed an earlier discussion where we were talking about how after lifting leg off the accelerator pedal, the CVT doesn't slow down much).

When coming down Genting, I allowed the engine braking to do it's work & the car slowed pretty well. Didn't have to do much braking to get to the bottom of the hill. On parts where the slope is steep, I used 'S'. When it's not that steep, 'S' feels jerky and I slotted it back to 'D' and the engine takes on a less edgy tone. The next time I come downhill on a daytime, I'll give the shifters a go.

Next part is just my personal opinion & by no means accurate. Difficult to put into words. So bear with me. Unlike a manual transmission, the CVT's engine braking is a pre-programmed thingy. It doesn't feel the same. You have little idea which 'gear' the CVT's on and have to judge/feel solely based on engine revolutions. Sometimes, I feel engine brakes the car too much and I wish to move a bit faster & apply some pressure onto the accelerator. Bear in mind that as the engine braking has kept revs above 2K rpm, you're instantly in turbo mode. As the car accelerates, programmed engine braking gets turned off. Even after I lift my leg off the accelerator, it takes short while before the engine starts braking again. So, don't go revving into a downhill corner too hard.

This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 6 2012, 02:28 PM

Forgot to mention this earlier on. I think this happened to me 3x already. When starting the car from cold, if I don't wait long enough before reversing out of my spot, it feels as though as there isn't enough vacuum for the brake servo. Have to almost stand on the brake pedal to get it to stop rolling. Has this happened to anyone else?


What's the estimated price for this?

This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 6 2012, 03:40 PM

Me too. Seat's fabric seems not up to par. The less blinking bit should be due to your installing a VS.

Goes to show that Preve has a strong body
Hard to imagine what it'll look like if that's a Wira.

On another note, I had my reverse camera fitted.



This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 8 2012, 09:37 PM

Murah sahaja. Free postage but takes about 15 days to arrive.

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Added on August 8, 2012, 9:47 pmCan explain this part a bit?

I tried to DIY fix mine. Opened the door's panel but couldn't figure out which part to bend. In the end, stuck the screwdriver in and bend here/there sikit-sikit. Pasang balik and spray silicone spray onto the rubbers. Now okay liao. Still bulges but no more sound when window going up/down.

This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 8 2012, 09:51 PM

When you select reverse gear, it powers the camera and sends signal to the HU to switch input from camera.



This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 8 2012, 10:00 PM

I didn't fancy drilling a hole into the car. So I ordered mine through ebay. Any model also can. So long as it's large enough to cover the square hole which houses the license plate lamp. Preferable that it's using a Sony CCD chip.


See the pics which I posted. Last picture taken outside the car. Almost pitch black. Only one lamp pole about 35 feet away. The picture in the HU is what you get. It sees well enough under low lighting conditions.

Thanks. Does this mean the slight bulging in unavoidable? I guess I can live with that.

I only DIY pasang the camera at the rear only. Had accessory shop do the wiring. Less stressful for me. Scared to dismantle dashboard and run the wire under the carpet.

Go to preveclub forum. There's a thread with pictures detailing how to DIY reverse camera.

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Added on August 8, 2012, 10:24 pmConnectors to the HU isn't that hard.

1) Take an old cd-rom audio connector cable & remove pins from there.
2) Sambung to your camera's RCA connector. Can potong and solder.
3) Stick pins into HU's connector. (which is removable)




This post has been edited by BartS: Aug 8 2012, 11:22 PM