but connect it to my AdagioII, Consonance and M2......the sound is just.......fuh DAMN
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This thing feels weird on my speakers, might be because im used to the EQ settings for my HCS2330
but connect it to my AdagioII, Consonance and M2......the sound is just.......fuh DAMN This post has been edited by JonSpark: Aug 16 2012, 08:55 PM |
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Aug 16 2012, 12:45 PM
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QUOTE(kumanosuke @ Aug 16 2012, 01:42 AM) does it mean if i connect an Amp to my Mp3 player, i need to max out the vol of my mp3 player and control the volume using the amp in order not to lost any bits ? Yes.not only due potential loss of bits, but also highest SNR when you're at your max volume. Then again, if you don't have line out, any amp = waste. |
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QUOTE(JonSpark @ Aug 16 2012, 11:53 AM) This thing feels weird on my speakers, might be because im used to the EQ settings for my HCS2330 dun use the DAC with your previous EQ setting bro but connect it to my AdagioII, Consonance and M2......the sound is just.......fuh DAMN |
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Aug 17 2012, 01:40 PM
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![]() UD100 next to ODAC. Surprisingly UD100 measured very well in RMAA, even against ODAC. I think it is safe to say for now, at least for my ears, UD100 is 95% of an ODAC if not more. Really excellent USB DAC for the price. |
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 17 2012, 01:40 PM) [img]http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k240/ofey_s/Stoner/UD100-05.jpg[/mimg] What is your rmaa setup like?UD100 next to ODAC. Surprisingly UD100 measured very well in RMAA, even against ODAC. I think it is safe to say for now, at least for my ears, UD100 is 95% of an ODAC if not more. Really excellent USB DAC for the price. |
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Nothing fancy: PC - (USB DAC) - O2 - Behringer UHA222 for line-in. Didn't use any load for O2 because it doesn't matter in this case. I am just looking for the difference between USB DAC. I would have forgone the O2 if UD100's volume is adjustable on Windows.
For listening, it is PC - USB DAC - O2 - RE0. This post has been edited by ClieOS: Aug 17 2012, 07:42 PM |
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 17 2012, 07:41 PM) Nothing fancy: PC - (USB DAC) - O2 - Behringer UHA222 for line-in. Didn't use any load for O2 because it doesn't matter in this case. I am just looking for the difference between USB DAC. I would have forgone the O2 if UD100's volume is adjustable on Windows. Are you sourcing them with the same PC? Because if you are, you're having ground loops -> hence problematic results.For listening, it is PC - USB DAC - O2 - RE0. |
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Aug 17 2012, 07:45 PM) Are you sourcing them with the same PC? Because if you are, you're having ground loops -> hence problematic results. Fortunately, ground loop isn't a problem on my PC. I tried two PC setup before and it doesn't make much difference. Also played with USB isolator before as well. |
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 17 2012, 07:51 PM) Fortunately, ground loop isn't a problem on my PC. I tried two PC setup before and it doesn't make much difference. Also played with USB isolator before as well. Ground loops is not PC dependent. It's when you tie an "extra" ground with the sleeve of the jack when the ground is already shared within the same PC.To be honest, RMAA is rarely a good gauge of absolute performance. It's very finnicky. I kinda side with nwaguy in RMAA's case. |
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Aug 17 2012, 07:55 PM) Ground loops is not PC dependent. It's when you tie an "extra" ground with the sleeve of the jack when the ground is already shared within the same PC. I don't disagree that RMAA isn't the greatest of tools, but it is free. If I have that kind of setup like NvAvGuy, I'll learn how to use them. But till then, RMAA is here to stay. However, the key is to know RMAA limit and know what to look for (and what not to). Even with a bad tool, it can still work if you know how to use it right. Which is why I measure the UD100 against ODAC, which has been well documented. By looking at the difference between result instead of pure number, a lot of things can still be told.To be honest, RMAA is rarely a good gauge of absolute performance. It's very finnicky. I kinda side with nwaguy in RMAA's case. Well, if that fail, I still have my ears and a digital SPL meter to match the volume. |
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 17 2012, 08:02 PM) I don't disagree that RMAA isn't the greatest of tools, but it is free. If I have that kind of setup like NvAvGuy, I'll learn how to use them. But till then, RMAA is here to stay. However, the key is to know RMAA limit and know what to look for (and what not to). Even with a bad tool, it can still work if you know how to use it right. Which is why I measure the UD100 against ODAC, which has been well documented. By looking at the difference between result instead of pure number, a lot of things can still be told. Tried ARTA yet?Well, if that fail, I still have my ears and a digital SPL meter to match the volume. |
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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Aug 17 2012, 08:39 PM) Ok, will try it sometime.Added on August 17, 2012, 8:46 pmAlright, back to the UD100. I happen to have a few TF card reader collecting dust, so I took one part and see if the UD100 will fit inside. Well, what do you know... ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by ClieOS: Aug 17 2012, 08:47 PM |
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « FUH...This is fit perfectly nice |
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UD100 -> cMoyBB v2.03 (with OPA637BP) -> Recabled Koss KSC-75
the sound stage, detail really nice definitely better than FiiO E7 DAC alone. This post has been edited by ming86: Aug 17 2012, 11:14 PM |
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 17 2012, 08:42 PM) Alright, back to the UD100. I happen to have a few TF card reader collecting dust, so I took one part and see if the UD100 will fit inside. Well, what do you know... why didnt i think of this?! » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Aug 17 2012, 06:42 PM) Ok, will try it sometime. like tailor-made housing/casing Added on August 17, 2012, 8:46 pmAlright, back to the UD100. I happen to have a few TF card reader collecting dust, so I took one part and see if the UD100 will fit inside. Well, what do you know... » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « use FiiO E02i Rocky + UD100 good ah? I know the mic doesn't work here This post has been edited by wkkm007: Aug 19 2012, 03:34 PM |
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