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post Aug 1 2012, 11:30 PM

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from the video, driver got at least 5 second (even more in real life due to camera quality) to be aware of the incoming ambulance, but he didn't take any action to slow down or to be more cautious.

and the purpose of the bloody loud siren is to alert people emergency vehicle are coming.. so, if the video recorded the siren sound, means the people should be able to notice it too.. so stupid driver.
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post Aug 1 2012, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(justin_5 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:33 PM)
are u telling me when u reach traffic light... the road infront of u is clear... u slow down??? even when the light is green, no car infront???  rclxms.gif  doh.gif
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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:36 PM)
you are wrong bro

its the ambulance wrong.....im not sure if you are a driver or not

if you do study the footage carefully....that is the ambulance wrong.

you think you have the siren you can break speed limit? can ignore traffic light?

i can tell you....in my dictionary there is no such thing ( maybe the laws have , i not sure ) .

having the siren on means....you should not block the ambulance if you are infront of it and let him pass.

all cars were passing when its green....its the ambulance fault that seeing those car passing, still wanna show off his zigzag skill avoiding traffic?
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the driver could clearly heard the siren..
so he should be aware of the surrounding.

this is one of the example. even the traffic light turns green, you shouldn't ignore your surrounding


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post Aug 1 2012, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(Kissan @ Aug 1 2012, 11:36 PM)
hard to pinpoint where the siren sound coming from while you driving.
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that's why i said..

YOU SHOULD BE MORE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDING. not to pin point exact location of the ambulance,

at least slow down. be more cautious.. expect the ambulance going to run the red light. expect the ambulance going to overtake you from left side..
what happen if the ambulance is the bomba firetruck.. you can be severely injured.
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post Aug 1 2012, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:39 PM)
u got loud siren on....that does not mean you totally dont need to obey rules

u got loud siren on.... that does not mean you are the king of the road and endangering others
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THAT's WHY THE PUT ON THE SIREN so Fking LOUD. SO THAT THEY CAN RUN THE BLOODY RED LIGHT !!!

it was bloody emergency... you expect people to be polite..

if not, they just use signal blinker... and drive 90 on the freeway.. or probably slower as some got 60 speed limit..
while people on the other side waiting for ambulance suffer..

then later.. got thread open,
AMBULANCE ARRIVE LATE BECAUSE OBEYING TRAFFIC LAW.. hell yeah..

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post Aug 2 2012, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 1 2012, 11:57 PM)
you can run the bloody red light....that does not mean every1 in the road with re act fast enough...as the traffic light turned green quite awhile

you hav your stupid siren on...that does not mean you dont need to lookout for traffic too.

in your comment...all i can see were, i got a siren...then im the king and i dont hav to care for others.

seriously, you hav the siren on then you dont hav to look at others road user?
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actually yes.. siren = king of the mutha f***in road by law. that doesn't mean normal honda city can install siren too.. lol

seriously.. who the F care about red light if you are in emergency.. normal vehicle should be more alert to emergency vehicle since they have loud siren to notify their presence and urgency

and thanks to the driver high quality video..
siren can be heard around 0:17 and
you can actually notice the blinking light from the top of ambulance at around 0:18. a good driver will notice this easily..

and when you can clearly hear the siren + approaching intersection + traffic light, normal vehicle should slow down..

and in case you guys didn't notice.. that wasn't the ambulance driver who went out of the ambulance, probably his assistant..

why he so lansi?? because you hit an ambulance.. they probably on their way to attend a case.. but after being hit,, the driver (probably still in the vehicle) will call another ambulance for backup since they immobilize already.


and once again..
THAT"S WHY THEY INSTALL FKING LOUD SIREN & A BLINKING SHINY ROTATION LIGHT ON TOP OF THEIR VEHICLE (I dont know what they call) SO THAT YOU, yes you NORMAL CAR DRIVER BE MORE ALERT OF THE PRESENCE OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE..



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post Aug 2 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:02 AM)
the ambulance could not see the car...and the car driver are caught in a suprise
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The driver had 5 second to alert of the ambulance as the driver could hear the bloody siren..

even braking on highway you just need 3 second rule..

the driver got 5 second to slow down..
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:08 AM)
do you really pass your car theory examination or you just ( PAO ) all with your money?  smile.gif

do u know...when you are driving in a heavy storm you cant turn on the double signal?

while alot of ppl tends to do that, coz of stupidness ppl like you only think of how emergency you are.

there is rules to obey even your siren on smile.gif

lemme remind you one more time, having siren does not you can drive like a boss

siren on means alert ppl to give way for you in certain condition...like traffic is slow or congested.

Siren on does not mean can drive like a boss in this cases
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what's the connection between double signal and this case?? I see no relevance..
and yes I know you cant turn on the double blinker, because double blinker means your car broke down and you should stop driving. instead people use that for speeding.. but that's not relevant.


emergency vehicle is the KING of the road when they turn on the siren and when they have emergency. Did you even read my post above??
and consider the driver lucky it wasn't a fire truck.

and how bout the driver had 5 second after he heard the LOUD siren to be more cautious??
how about he could clearly notice the ambulance coming around 0:18 of the video.. around 5 second before impact..

he's incompetence driver.. did not alert of surrounding..

don't expect the ambulance driver to be cautious in this case, they had excuse.. the siren was on.. the driver clearly had ample time to react..
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:16 AM)
we do not really know how fast the driver are going.

its pretty normal that you going in a speed which is abit fast, coz you are at distance.

for me....i will slowed down abit but in real...it still pretty fast.

its impossible for you to slow until you crawl like the others car that are waitting the light turn green rite?

if you do that..probably at the back of the car will kiss your car butt ady
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He had bloody 5 second to react to the siren and he had clear view of the ambulance top light.
and nearby traffic already slowing down...

next excuse please.
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post Aug 2 2012, 12:33 AM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Aug 2 2012, 12:22 AM)
Wait... the ambulance was racing to an emergency, it got hit by a car.. and then they stopped so he could walk around and yell at the driver? what about the emergency lol smile.gif
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duh~ they call another ambulance laa.. aiyo.. the ambulance already immobilize,, you expect them to still drive on the road..

QUOTE(herojack41 @ Aug 2 2012, 12:24 AM)
i see....the ambulance its king of the road when siren its on

do read this then  smile.gif

(King Of The Road Killed Some1, while rushing to save people)

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...6&if_height=175

also...supermoto i do hope this news will not happen to you then  smile.gif

mr.fantagero anymore to said?
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accident does happen. In this case the firetruck in the wrong.. so what?? now every emergency vehicle in the wrong if accident happen??
and the firetruck grazed the motorcycle.. it was unfortunate.. small vehicle vs big vehicle which has a lot of blind spot.

but in this case, the drive clearly had a chance (5 second to slow down) to avoid the accident if the driver was more alert of the surrounding.

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post Aug 2 2012, 12:45 AM

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conclusion..

the driver had ~5 second to react after he heard the siren and clear visible of LED Light on top of the ambulance. (0:18 of the video).
The video clearly showed that he had ample time to react and to notify the ambulance. Even the v.recorder managed to record siren 5 second before impact.

yes, the ambulance still need to obey red light. Other 2 lanes on the right side of the driver already slowed down, congested and given their way to ambulance. If the driver is paying more attention to surrounding, the driver should slow down and look for emergency vehicle coming from any point of the road. even the ambulance could be flying and land from the sky. he should be aware.

even on empty road,, please pay more attention even your way has the green light. Remember the singapore ferrari and the lexus cases..

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post Aug 2 2012, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(KitZhai @ Aug 2 2012, 12:59 AM)
Hope u guys understand, the unlucky driver doesn't really speeding in the left lane, but cars at the right lane stopped due to the traffic light.

In this case, the one fault for the driver is unable to mention the siren of the ambulance.
But I think this is common mistake as the ambulance suddenly popout from a blindspot.
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Hope you guys understand.

LOOK AT THE TWO ARROWS ON THE ROAD. we hired bangla to paint the arrow for this purpose..

2 lanes on the driver's right going straight. 2 lanes to turn right. around 0:15 of the video you can see clearly the arrow
You can clearly see the arrow pointing straight.. So that means go straight.. no belok2... so the traffice on the two lanes slowed down for the ambulance.. not red light

Damn, I should be a detective..

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QUOTE(squarepilot @ Aug 2 2012, 01:04 AM)
never kena your flesh yet of cause you dont know la. driver is not guilty, nor the ambulance
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flesh??

wut?
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post Aug 3 2012, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(shawn87 @ Aug 3 2012, 04:56 AM)
Why he took video at d first place?
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