QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 12:00 PM)
This one-time offer when you open Term Deposit-i at HSBC Amanah branches (newly open branches only)...details on 1st postFixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V3, Read 1st post to find highest rate.
Fixed Deposit Rates in Malaysia V3, Read 1st post to find highest rate.
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Oct 18 2012, 12:07 PM
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Oct 18 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 17 2012, 08:07 PM) Take a look at the sample calculation you attached. I didnt spend time to calculate in detail but I agreed with you on looking at the overall picture of 300k for 5% then interest earned is rm15k, anything less is less than 5% interest rateTotal savings is RM300K for 1 year. Total Dividend earned is RM8,631.09 (3%) + RM4,883.50 (2%) = RM13,514.59 per year. A rough backward calculation, you will get the annualized effective rate of 4.50% (ignoring the 14 days late deposit in Jan). Another way to look at it is picture no.2, where it stated clearly that only RM244,174.95 (Incremental Average Daily Balance) gets extra 2% dividend. NOT RM300K gets extra 2%. And one more counter check you can do is, if it is 5% on the entire deposit balance of RM300K, then you should get RM300K x 5% = RM15,000 dividend per annum instead of just RM13,514.59 per annum. 5% p.a. is correct only for RM250K deposited in the calender year of 2012 only. |
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Oct 18 2012, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Oct 18 2012, 11:45 AM) Can we still get 5% if we open a PMA-i account with RM50k on 1st Nov ? Bro, why you never read my post Maybank Premier Mudharabah Account-i - Up to 4.75% Dividend at my new Fixed Deposit blog?Or do we topup RMxx between the Nov and Dec 2012 ? First of all you not getting 5% because the GIA-i 1 month rate is not 3% Secondly, in the same post mentioned above, I did advise that one opens the account and deposit RM50K prior to November in order to get the GIA-i 1 month rate in November. And last but not least, for CASA, unless you are depositing cash, the money needs to be cleared so opening an account on 1st November to get the Gia-i rate will depend on how you deposited your fund. QUOTE(Medufsaid @ Oct 18 2012, 11:46 AM) Yes. Brain hurts here too. But er... if I have <RM50k for this musical chair is it worth it? Or I'll go for HSBC 3 months 5% Once again, you are NOT going to get 5% no matter how you calculate because the GIA-i rate is not 3%. IF for less than RM50K, no brainer, go for HSBC 5%.QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 11:53 AM) Yes, you will get, I asked Maybank this question before, deposit first of the month will get you the 3% if no withdrawer. and the 2% is additional interest, you will only get it after this promotion end. Still, total is 5% p.a. Once again, nobody is going to get 5% for November and December 2012 based on GIA-i 1 month current rate. QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 12:00 PM) Check this out. If less than 50K, e.g. if you save RM5001, then you will be getting 0.7 + 2 which is 2.7%, it is calculate using daily average, so you can withdraw anytime, and save money anytime. with 2.7%, you can treat is as saving account or FD account, still with highest interest. Very true, with the 2% interest this account is very good for those who open it this year but it is not necessary the highest interest rate for RM5K and below. Click here to my article The Best Savings Account in Malaysia to see savings account offering 2.85% and above with RM50 deposit monthly.This post has been edited by Gen-X: Oct 18 2012, 01:31 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 01:45 PM
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Can we open the PMA-i at normal Maybank branches ?
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Oct 18 2012, 01:48 PM
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Bro Gen-x, I read your blog, showing 2.75%. However on Maybank Islamic website still showing 3%, i guess its rates should be shown on current rates. However dose not matter as its still highest available to us not from the Klang Valley.
Maybank Islamic Gia-i for 1 month FD which is the reference shows indicative rates at 2.75%. Still good to go. This post has been edited by magika: Oct 18 2012, 01:55 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 18 2012, 01:28 PM) Bro, why you never read my post Maybank Premier Mudharabah Account-i - Up to 4.75% Dividend at my new Fixed Deposit blog? Why dun u share here directly First of all you not getting 5% because the GIA-i 1 month rate is not 3% Secondly, in the same post mentioned above, I did advise that one opens the account and deposit RM50K prior to November in order to get the GIA-i 1 month rate in November. And last but not least, for CASA, unless you are depositing cash, the money needs to be cleared so opening an account on 1st November to get the Gia-i rate will depend on how you deposited your fund. Once again, you are NOT going to get 5% no matter how you calculate because the GIA-i rate is not 3%. IF for less than RM50K, no brainer, go for HSBC 5%. Once again, nobody is going to get 5% for November and December 2012 based on GIA-i 1 month current rate. Very true, with the 2% interest this account is very good for those who open it this year but it is not necessary the highest interest rate for RM5K and below. Click here to my article The Best Savings Account in Malaysia to see savings account offering 2.85% and above with RM50 deposit monthly. Can you share more on the savings account offering 2.85%? Btw, I never call it a saving account if no withdrawer then only can get 2.85%. If no withdrawer allow then why not place in FD directly? This post has been edited by eugenecctan: Oct 18 2012, 01:55 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 01:55 PM) Why dun u share here directly Share it here, it's freaking long and I have summarized it earlier, see below:Can you share more on the savings account offering 2.85%? Btw, I never call it a saving account if no withdrawer then only can get 2.85%. If no withdrawer allow then why not place in FD directly? QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 17 2012, 11:06 AM) Ok, here is the latest on PMA-i As as I said, there are accounts that pay you higher than 2.85% even if you do withdrawal and mentioned in this thread over and over again.1. we are not getting 5% if we deposit now because the current 1 Month GIa-i rate is 2.75%. So max 4.75% unless there is further changes in the GIA I month rate. 2. If we deposit now till end of the month, the dividend rate will be based on tier rate and not GIA-i 1 month rate. The GIA-i rate only applies if fund was sitting in the account for one entire month untouched. But you still get the extra 2% on top of tier rate. 3. If you deposit now, only beginning next month you get 2.75%+2%. Good news is offering new Maybank FD Promo for 3, 6 and 9 months where the interest rates are 3.4%, 3.6% and 3.7% respectively. For more info - click here to my Fixed Deposit Promotion Page. You may have earned 5% for previous months but you should not be misleading others that they can get 5% for November or December. Please check the GIA-i rate yourself at Maybank site if you do not wish to visit my blogs. This post has been edited by Gen-X: Oct 18 2012, 02:05 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 02:26 PM
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 18 2012, 02:04 PM) Share it here, it's freaking long and I have summarized it earlier, see below: HahahahahhahAHHA, if anyone here feel that I am trying to misleading them, sorry ya.As as I said, there are accounts that pay you higher than 2.85% even if you do withdrawal and mentioned in this thread over and over again. You may have earned 5% for previous months but you should not be misleading others that they can get 5% for November or December. Please check the GIA-i rate yourself at Maybank site if you do not wish to visit my blogs. I am PMA-I owner for years, as I said, the rate is variable. the purpose for my sharing not to misleading anyone. It is to share a nice product. Btw, do u ,meant this link -> http://www.maybankislamic.com.my/promo_get...ign-111230.html It is stated very clear 3%, please blame Maybank ya for misleading, if you have the correct info. This post has been edited by eugenecctan: Oct 18 2012, 02:32 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 02:26 PM) HahahahahhahAHHA, if anyone here feel that I am trying to misleading them, sorry ya. Let's say we open this month and we will get 2.75/3 starting nov and dec. what shall we do in jan 2013? Waiting for new promote or withdrawl fully?I am PMA-I owner for years, as I said, the rate is variable. the purpose for my sharing not to misleading anyone. It is to share a nice product. Btw, do u ,meant this link -> http://www.maybankislamic.com.my/promo_get...ign-111230.html It is stated very clear 3%, please blame Maybank ya for misleading, if you have the correct info. |
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Oct 18 2012, 02:47 PM
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Oct 18 2012, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 02:26 PM) HahahahahhahAHHA, if anyone here feel that I am trying to misleading them, sorry ya. Bro, I agree it is a great product for 2012 I am PMA-I owner for years, as I said, the rate is variable. the purpose for my sharing not to misleading anyone. It is to share a nice product. Btw, do u ,meant this link -> http://www.maybankislamic.com.my/promo_get...ign-111230.html It is stated very clear 3%, please blame Maybank ya for misleading, if you have the correct info. But I guess you failed to grasp the terms and conditions of the Promotion which clearly states that for RM50K and above with no withdrawals, the interest rate is based on 1 month GIA-i rate which is also clearly stated in the link you gave above i.e. read the Note ** It does not matter if you have been a owner of the PMA-i account or not, what matters are the terms and conditions. You keep stressing it is 5% which is not true if one opens the account now. For those who are going to opened the account now till end of October, I have even pointed out to others that they will not get the GIA-i 1 month rate but tier interest rate no matter how much one deposit for October. Same condition applies for November and December if one does not have minimum RM50K credit beginning 1st Nov and Dec. And nobody was even aware of this; and if you did, you failed to highlight this important note. The point is everyone here is thinking they getting 5%pa without reading the terms and conditions or checking with the bank before posting. This post has been edited by Gen-X: Oct 18 2012, 02:57 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 18 2012, 02:51 PM) Bro, I agree it is a great product for 2012 Genx is right on this. The current rate (16Oct - 15Nov) is 2.75%. See link here: Maybank linkBut I guess you failed to grasp the terms and conditions of the Promotion which clearly states that for RM50K and above with no withdrawals, the interest rate is based on 1 month GIA-i rate which is also clearly stated in the link you gave above i.e. read the Note ** It does not matter if you have been a owner of the PMA-i account or not, what matters are the terms and conditions. You keep stressing it is 5% which is not true if one opens the account now. For those who are going to opened the account now till end of October, I have even pointed out to others that they will not get the GIA-i 1 month rate but tier interest rate no matter how much one deposit for October. Same condition applies for November and December if one does not have minimum RM50K credit beginning 1st Nov and Dec. And nobody was even aware of this; and if you did, you failed to highlight this important note. The point is everyone here is thinking they getting 5%pa without reading the terms and conditions or checking with the bank before posting. |
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Oct 18 2012, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 11:43 AM) We = everyone. p.a. meant per annum, 5% p.a., anyhow, as long as you understand, for me it is still 5% interest, hahaha. No, I don't have existing PMA-I account yet. I appreciated your sharing of PMA-I in this thread and it prompted my interest and that's why I actively participated in the discussions pertaining to this promo Btw, are you the existing PMA-I account holder? else why are you so care about the balance for year 2011? It is only applicable to me. I care because I found a discrepancy of 4.5% being defined as 5% (assuming the GIA-I is fixed at 3% and Extra dividend is fixed at 2%) and I wish to debate about it Anyway, you are right about 5%p.a (assuming the GIA-I is fixed at 3% and Extra dividend is fixed at 2%) only if customer is NEW TO PMA-I in the calender year 2012 with zero balance as at 31.12.2011. Since you mentioned that it only applicable to you as an existing PMA-I customer with balance as at 31.12.2011, perhaps you can share with me what is my effective % for the entire calender year of 2012, if :- My existing PMA-I Balance as at 31st Dec 2011 = RM30,000 I top up on 1st Jan 2012 = RM70,000 Balance as at 31st Dec 2012 = RM100,000 Assuming:- No withdrawal thru out year 2012 GIA-I and extra dividend fixed at 3% + 2% thru out year 2012. Thank you This post has been edited by aeiou228: Oct 18 2012, 03:15 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(ascend @ Oct 18 2012, 03:03 PM) Btw, as i have said, it is variable, it is like u cannot confirm that next month will be 2.75, can you? Added on October 18, 2012, 3:26 pm QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 18 2012, 03:12 PM) No, I don't have existing PMA-I account yet. I appreciated your sharing of PMA-I in this thread and it prompted my interest and that's why I actively participated in the discussions pertaining to this promo Split this into 2 accounts, easier to understand, based on my understand,I care because I found a discrepancy of 4.5% being defined as 5% (assuming the GIA-I is fixed at 3% and Extra dividend is fixed at 2%) and I wish to debate about it Anyway, you are right about 5%p.a (assuming the GIA-I is fixed at 3% and Extra dividend is fixed at 2%) only if customer is NEW TO PMA-I in the calender year 2012 with zero balance as at 31.12.2011. Since you mentioned that it only applicable to you as an existing PMA-I customer with balance as at 31.12.2011, perhaps you can share with me what is my effective % for the entire calender year of 2012, if :- My existing PMA-I Balance as at 31st Dec 2011 = RM30,000 I top up on 1st Jan 2012 = RM70,000 Balance as at 31st Dec 2012 = RM100,000 Assuming:- No withdrawal thru out year 2012 GIA-I and extra dividend fixed at 3% + 2% thru out year 2012. Thank you for the 30K, you will be still getting 3% every month. It is accumulating, meant for January, you will get 30k + 3%p.a., for February, you will get (30K + 3%) +3%p.a. ...... December for the 70k, you will get 5%p.a., but again, it is accumulating, for 3%p.a. (same calculation as above for 30k) and also for the 2%. (Also accumulating by daily average) ***** Assuming it is 5%, I dun wan to misleading anyone. Btw, the calculation was provided by Maybank to me, I am just sharing. Added on October 18, 2012, 3:29 pmBtw, 1 question, if you were to open new account on 1st November, you will get your interest on 31st of November, the above 2.75 is for 16Oct - 15Nov. Maybe you should check with Maybank on how much you will get for November and December. This post has been edited by eugenecctan: Oct 18 2012, 03:29 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 03:47 PM
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hi fellas. may i know what is the best effective FD rate at the moment? thanks
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Oct 18 2012, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(eugenecctan @ Oct 18 2012, 03:17 PM) Split this into 2 accounts, easier to understand, based on my understand, Thank you for time Bro. for the 30K, you will be still getting 3% every month. It is accumulating, meant for January, you will get 30k + 3%p.a., for February, you will get (30K + 3%) +3%p.a. ...... December for the 70k, you will get 5%p.a., but again, it is accumulating, for 3%p.a. (same calculation as above for 30k) and also for the 2%. (Also accumulating by daily average) ***** Assuming it is 5%, I dun wan to misleading anyone. Btw, the calculation was provided by Maybank to me, I am just sharing. My old tool of trade (financial calculator) still working fine abide covered with dust, I still agak-agak remember how to do some simple compound interest calculation With the assumptions that: GIA-I rate is 3% pa compounded monthly. Extra Dividend is 2% compounded monthly. (Actually extra dividend is paid yearly but I assumed paid monthly for easy calculation) For the 30K, the compounded dividend for 2012 is = 912.48 For the 70K, the compounded dividend for 2012 is = 3,581.33 Therefore total monthly compounded dividend for calender year 2012 is RM4,493.81. Right ?? Hence 4.49% p.a effective return out of RM100,000 investment amount. I really couldn't figure out where is the other supposedly 0.5% came from. Above is based on your formula ie split to two account. |
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Oct 18 2012, 05:40 PM
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 18 2012, 05:18 PM) My old tool of trade (financial calculator) still working fine abide covered with dust, I still agak-agak remember how to do some simple compound interest calculation Bro, if just for the RM70K incremental amount, your calculation shows more than 5% With the assumptions that: GIA-I rate is 3% pa compounded monthly. Extra Dividend is 2% compounded monthly. (Actually extra dividend is paid yearly but I assumed paid monthly for easy calculation) For the 30K, the compounded dividend for 2012 is = 912.48 For the 70K, the compounded dividend for 2012 is = 3,581.33 Therefore total monthly compounded dividend for calender year 2012 is RM4,493.81. Right ?? Hence 4.49% p.a effective return out of RM100,000 investment amount. I really couldn't figure out where is the other supposedly 0.5% came from. The Maybank PMA-i Extra 2% promo is applicable to incremental amount in 2012 (i.e. amount deposited in 2012 less amount as of 31 December 2011). No where did Maybank Islamic promised 5%. And by the way, the calculation assuming one earns the GIA-i one month's rate on the first month is subjected that the RM70K deposited on 1st of the January is cleared and credited into the account on the same day so that one has minimum RM50K for a full calendar month to enjoy the 1 month GIA-i rate. And since 1st January 2012 is a holiday, there is no way you will earn the 1 month GIA-i rate for January even if you top up RM2Million because you only had RM30K as of 31 December 2011 and therefore the same as of 1st January 2012. In order to get the 1 month GIA-i rate in January, you need minimum RM50K as of 31 December 2011. This post has been edited by Gen-X: Oct 18 2012, 05:45 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 05:44 PM
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Bro Gen-x, I still could not find the tier clause thingy. Without that clause we (meaning interested forummers) still can get the ahem. .cough..supposedly 3% monthly and tenure dividend. My opinion only.
The indicative rate is based on Gia-i 1 mth tenure, but not necessary be exactly one month, as shown by the sample calculation, still can enjoy the rates no matter what day we deposit. I was thinking along Smart Savers line. Added on October 18, 2012, 5:46 pm QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Oct 18 2012, 05:18 PM) Thank you for time Bro. Still holding on to the balance at 31 December for your calculation? My old tool of trade (financial calculator) still working fine abide covered with dust, I still agak-agak remember how to do some simple compound interest calculation With the assumptions that: GIA-I rate is 3% pa compounded monthly. Extra Dividend is 2% compounded monthly. (Actually extra dividend is paid yearly but I assumed paid monthly for easy calculation) For the 30K, the compounded dividend for 2012 is = 912.48 For the 70K, the compounded dividend for 2012 is = 3,581.33 Therefore total monthly compounded dividend for calender year 2012 is RM4,493.81. Right ?? Hence 4.49% p.a effective return out of RM100,000 investment amount. I really couldn't figure out where is the other supposedly 0.5% came from. Above is based on your formula ie split to two account. Your RM 70 k earned 5.11% already, omg must hurry to open.. This post has been edited by magika: Oct 18 2012, 05:55 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Oct 18 2012, 05:44 PM) Bro Gen-x, I still could not find the tier clause thingy. Without that clause we (meaning interested forummers) still can get the ahem supposedly 3% monthly and tenure dividend. My opinion only. Bro, you are right, I also cannot find the clause thingy, hahaha I was informed of this condition by Maybank Affluent Banking Exec. Added on October 18, 2012, 5:46 pm Still holding on to the balance at 31 December for your calculation? Your RM 70 k earned 5.11% already, omg must hurry to open.. You still have more than a week to drop by Maybank and confirm this tier thingy I have been highlighting and prove me worng, hahaha. This post has been edited by Gen-X: Oct 18 2012, 06:06 PM |
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Oct 18 2012, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE(Gen-X @ Oct 18 2012, 05:40 PM) Bro, if just for the RM70K incremental amount, your calculation shows more than 5% The Maybank PMA-i Extra 2% promo is applicable to incremental amount in 2012 (i.e. amount deposited in 2012 less amount as of 31 December 2011). No where did Maybank Islamic promised 5%. And by the way, the calculation assuming one earns the GIA-i one month's rate on the first month is subjected that the RM70K deposited on 1st of the January is cleared and credited into the account on the same day so that one has minimum RM50K for a full calendar month to enjoy the 1 month GIA-i rate. And since 1st January 2012 is a holiday, there is no way you will earn the 1 month GIA-i rate for January even if you top up RM2Million because you only had RM30K as of 31 December 2011 and therefore the same as of 1st January 2012. In order to get the 1 month GIA-i rate in January, you need minimum RM50K as of 31 December 2011. QUOTE(magika @ Oct 18 2012, 05:44 PM) Bro Gen-x, I still could not find the tier clause thingy. Without that clause we (meaning interested forummers) still can get the ahem. .cough..supposedly 3% monthly and tenure dividend. My opinion only. That was not my calculation, it was Bro eugenecctan punya formula as below. I just help to calculate the compound interest and complete the equations saja. The indicative rate is based on Gia-i 1 mth tenure, but not necessary be exactly one month, as shown by the sample calculation, still can enjoy the rates no matter what day we deposit. I was thinking along Smart Savers line. Added on October 18, 2012, 5:46 pm Still holding on to the balance at 31 December for your calculation? Your RM 70 k earned 5.11% already, omg must hurry to open.. QUOTE Split this into 2 accounts, easier to understand, based on my understand, for the 30K, you will be still getting 3% every month. It is accumulating, meant for January, you will get 30k + 3%p.a., for February, you will get (30K + 3%) +3%p.a. ...... December for the 70k, you will get 5%p.a., but again, it is accumulating, for 3%p.a. (same calculation as above for 30k) and also for the 2%. (Also accumulating by daily average) This post has been edited by aeiou228: Oct 18 2012, 06:05 PM |
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