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TSadrian23
post Jul 31 2012, 12:49 AM, updated 14y ago

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Hi guys, I will like to start this topic as I am kinda attract to this car design but I think it is a little bit over price based on the spec it have..

Malaysia are now current selling at
MT - RM243,000
AT - RM249,000

You guys can view all the details at:
http://toyota.com.my/toyota-86/#price_details

Owner and everyone are welcome to share. Thanks....

This post has been edited by adrian23: Aug 3 2012, 06:11 PM
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post Jul 31 2012, 10:39 AM

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wait for the grey importers to bring them in. Alot cheaper.
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:01 AM

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In Aus, price of GTI>86.
In Msia, price of 86>GTI.

So.. who is earning the extra money?

and no turbo??!


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post Jul 31 2012, 11:05 AM

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Our gov sux becos put high tax on imported car but Toyota more sux cos they always tend to price their car on the high side. Oh wait, it's not Toyota but UMW
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:07 AM

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i assume tax to be the same cos toyota n vw both imported car. both same 2L engine.
and u got my point.. is UMW. damn it..
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 31 2012, 11:05 AM)
Our gov sux becos put high tax on imported car but Toyota more sux cos they always tend to price their car on the high side. Oh wait, it's not Toyota but UMW
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the tax is the thing that cost more here becoz the GT86 is a CBU JP car and CBU japan car have higher tax compare to Asean assemble CKD Toyota cars.

Anyway even if it doest have more import tax it will still price higher here by the government lah.... since it has 2 doors means it is something super.
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:14 AM

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:07 AM)
i assume tax to be the same cos toyota n vw both imported car. both same 2L engine.
and u got my point.. is UMW. damn it..
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Subaru sedan STi V10 2.5L Turbo ia priced the same as FT86 shakehead.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:15 AM

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this car will drop price soon, see hachiroku still maintain the price tag .. nothing beats AE86 !
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:19 AM

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i wonder this sport car look alike 'sport car' can outrun some higher range sedan? like the merc e250?
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(0300078 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:14 AM)
the tax is the thing that cost more here becoz the GT86 is a CBU JP car and CBU japan car have higher tax compare to Asean assemble CKD Toyota cars.

Anyway even if it doest have more import tax it will still price higher here by the government lah.... since it has 2 doors means it is something super.
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Tell me what car assembled in Asean is sports car. What I know Thailand only assemble budget car hmm.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:21 AM

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golf gti is ckd??
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:19 AM)
i wonder this sport car look alike 'sport car' can outrun some higher range sedan? like the merc e250?
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This car never meant to be high power. The keyword is 'balance'. Just like AE86 nod.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 31 2012, 11:23 AM)
This car never meant to be high power. The keyword is 'balance'. Just like AE86 nod.gif
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haha.. mayb it is like tat..
but when on highway. u bought a 200++k sport car.. u cant outrun a sedan! the feelin is kinda.. zzzzz

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:19 AM)
i wonder this sport car look alike 'sport car' can outrun some higher range sedan? like the merc e250?
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i would said it is a fun to drive car but nvr a fast car. It is just a NA car with FR.... and can go high rev..... good for ppl want to drift on like AE86....
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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:25 AM)
haha.. mayb it is like tat..
but when on highway. u bought a 200++k sport car.. u cant outrun a sedan! the feelin is kinda.. zzzzz
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The worst thing is when u cant even outrun a Proton laugh.gif
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:35 AM

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add in some review (which i think is a good one) from a fellow kupitard


QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Jul 30 2012, 07:44 PM)
Just came back from testing the Toyota 86. Here are my thoughts for those who are interested to know.
Pre Drive Walk Around
I tested a red colour 86. Really nice colour on the car, perhaps the best in my opinion. The car is surprisingly quiet. When it pulled up, I was surprised that there wasn't any "boxer burble".

The SA then brought me on a short tour, opened the bonnet and checked out the insides. Very tidy looking. But still has loads of space in it. Clearly this car was designed for pro modders / beng modders in mind.

The rears are really really tight. Only can fit a 12 year old (maybe even 12 year olds will find it tight). But, definitely can fit an adult for a short journey, probably up Genting and back down from KL, boleh la. The front seats however, different story. Completely snug and comfortable. The support is superb for a stock seat. More on this later. The ergonomics are standard Toyota, easy to understand where all the switches are, no fancy pansy stuff. Some will say the interior is cheap, but I thought that it's acceptable quality la. Definitely not RM200k worthy. Plastic here and there, even an Altis feels nicer. But, the car is a driver focused car. The positioning of the driver is absolutely perfect. The gear lever is perfectly positioned. The view out the front windshield is very wide and clear.

The drive itself
So, after signing all the papers, it was time to get moving. Got into the driver seat, and tried to start the engine. Eh taboleh?! SA explained, press clutch and brake together, press start button. "VROOOMMMM. Burble burble burble." NAIS. (Sorry la i know this is common feature in modern cars, I poorfag can't afford expensive car before dis yo).

The reverse lever on the manual is also normal for 6 speed manuals. You have to lift a small lever around the knob, and push it towards "R" before it goes into reverse. Reverse sensors are also fairly decent. Not too sensitive. I revved it a few times, but the bunyi like tak keluar wan. Disappointed slightly. ZzzZ sweat.gif

The got on to the main road. The steering felt... very precise. Very very precise in fact. But not to the extent that it got jittery of it's fickle or anything. Just felt absolutely superb. Nicely weighted. The brake is also another highlight. Feels very analog, not like the modern cars which pedals feel dead. Damn nice!  But the clutch is slightly heavy i have to say. Maybe gets a bit of getting used to.

Suddenly drive drive around for 4 mins, coast is clear.  I looked at the SA. "Press can ar?".brows.gif "Can, no problem."  thumbup.gif  Dropped down the gear to 2nd, and planted my foot. HOOO MAI GOOOODDD the car really can go. Rev all the way up to 7000rpm before i up shifted. The sound valve kicked in at 4000rpm and the engine note just sounds soooo sweet. Such a surprise. It doesn't scream like a Vtec, but very manly kinda "POWERRRR" shout. Definitely thumbs up. Okay. At this juncture, one short comment. The car feels sluggish at low RPM, yes - definitely can understand why a lot of commentators say that this car is underpowered. But once you hit that 4000-4200rpm mark, seriously this car can go. And I think it's because of the really light weight of the car. 200hp (170 odd on wheel) for such a light car, at this point, cukup pakai sampai puas puas imo.

Then sampai a left turn corner, brake, downshift, woot. Damn surprised. The steering feels so superb. Car goes where you wanna go, and you can aim the head of the car whichever angle you want. The seat at this point surprised me. Really holds you together well. And I think it's because of both the bucket seat like design, and the fabric of the seat as well, which grips in a light manner.

Came the second corner, went in fast again, but this time oversteer slightly, and the tail kicked out a bit, but not that much. Screeching tyres. Dem sked yo. After that drive slowly liao. LOL. I looked that the SA and said "sorry". blush.gif  He said "it's okay. dat corner i drive twice faster wan usually. this car traction control will jaga you."  rclxub.gif

After that slow drive back to the Sales Centre. Very quiet, civilized drive. Rempit sound still apparent, but very civil. So surprised. Engine bunyi maybe slightly louder than an Altis je. Once you quiet down the car, it becomes civilized too. The ride comfort, now that I've calmed down, is absolutely amazing. It's not hard, but has zero body roll around a corner. What a surprise...
Conclusion

I was really lucky to have driven the manual. Even many auto bloggers out there belum got chance. So tengkiu tengkiu Mr Au of Cheras UMW Toyota.  notworthy.gif

I went in thinking that RM243k is overpriced, and probably no one, unless you have rich parents, would buy this car. But the car surprised me in a few ways. It's practical, parts are readily available, maintenance is priced the same as a Camry, and it's surprisingly fast. Honestly, after driving it, I'm sold... almost.

Do I think it's worth RM243k? I can imagine saying YES, if I were to own it for a week. Honestly, I can totally see it. It's easy to drive, perhaps easy to maintain, and a fun drive. But to buy this car, when there's just so many options out there decked with better equipment, I'd think thrice before putting my pen to paper. But the drive, is on a completely different level.
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:46 AM

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looking forward to try tat car soon!
if someone really reviews like tat. but i still don agree on the price.
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post Jul 31 2012, 11:51 AM

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A good write up.. IMO this car is for casual driver not some hardcore modder. To bring this car to another level like turbo charging will definitely defeat the purpose of why this car being built.
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post Jul 31 2012, 01:06 PM

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QUOTE(wc5599 @ Jul 31 2012, 11:21 AM)
golf gti is ckd??
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Golf Gti is CBU...

For VW only new passat and polo sedan are ckd. (correct if i am wrong)

i also hope for a golf or scirocco to be CKD here.


Added on July 31, 2012, 1:32 pm
QUOTE(mutt @ Jul 31 2012, 11:51 AM)
A good write up..  IMO this car is for casual driver not some hardcore modder. To bring this car to another level like turbo charging will definitely defeat the purpose of why this car being built.
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Indeed a very good write up about the post:
U r right bro, to mod this car definitely defeat the purpose of the original build.

I did a brief comparison between this Toyota 86 and VW Golf Gti

1) 249,000 vs 208,888
2) 200HP vs 210 HP
3) 2 Seater VS 5 Seater
4) Poor Head Unit Vs RCD510

I would say 86 is not really worth it compare to golf gti......

instead of appearance, definitely 86 are more sporty compare to golf but performance wise
i guess golf are better.........

This post has been edited by adrian23: Jul 31 2012, 01:32 PM
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post Jul 31 2012, 03:25 PM

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in Australia, this car only cost 100k in RM ! this is a Cheapo sport car, UMW make it "SUPER" car by price tag

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