how can a single chip dac without any caps component would fair against any current dac in market? i hope you can join AudioTechnica gathering this weekend
Sound Cards [WTS] ESS SABRE ES9023 Audiophile USB DAC, A TINY DAC that you should NEVER miss!
Sound Cards [WTS] ESS SABRE ES9023 Audiophile USB DAC, A TINY DAC that you should NEVER miss!
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Aug 9 2012, 01:34 AM
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as a PCM2704 user, this is very tempting for me, but yeah, comparing those two would be like.. different
how can a single chip dac without any caps component would fair against any current dac in market? i hope you can join AudioTechnica gathering this weekend |
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Aug 9 2012, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(GenericMav @ Aug 9 2012, 01:34 AM) as a PCM2704 user, this is very tempting for me, but yeah, comparing those two would be like.. different I hope you could post some feedback here after testing since you have tried PCM2704 dac as well..If the upgrade is really significant I will get this dac instead how can a single chip dac without any caps component would fair against any current dac in market? i hope you can join AudioTechnica gathering this weekend |
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Aug 9 2012, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(GenericMav @ Aug 9 2012, 01:34 AM) as a PCM2704 user, this is very tempting for me, but yeah, comparing those two would be like.. different Hi, for your understanding, the caps on the 2704 is used to decouple the DC in the output signal. Most of the graded products had their center point at zero potential, which no longer needing the decoupling capacitors. There is no fair or unfair to compete each other on design/components used , as long as they are in the same price range. how can a single chip dac without any caps component would fair against any current dac in market? i hope you can join AudioTechnica gathering this weekend This post has been edited by chchyong89: Aug 9 2012, 12:52 PM |
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Aug 9 2012, 02:04 PM
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QUOTE(chchyong89 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:59 AM) Hi, for your understanding, the caps on the 2704 is used to decouple the DC in the output signal. Most of the graded products had their center point at zero potential, which no longer needing the decoupling capacitors. There is no fair or unfair to compete each other on design/components used , as long as they are in the same price range. hmm, hearing is believing. if you're up for poisoning session (there'll be lots of victim), hope you can join us at the AT gathering |
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Aug 9 2012, 02:36 PM
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Here's a quick and brief review about ESS9023(compared to 2704, well, it's not fair to compare between them as like as TS said they are in 'different league', but since alot of ppl interested to know the differrence, well here it is.....).
Testing equipments Speaker 1: Logitech Z2300 playing from PC Speaker 2: Paradigm monitor playing from PC thru marantz amp (pure direct enabled) 1. Emi Fujita's Fields of Gold flac, 9023 sounded wider and sharper. Yes, you can definitely hear the differrence, it's quite obvious right after I switched from 2704 to 9023. Bass is deeper but not at annoying level (i don't like boomy bass). 2. Tsai Chin's Take care tonight flac, 9023 sounded more neutral and better vocal. Medium freq not much differrence. 3. Ronan Hardiman's Heaven, again sounded awesome but I hv to lower the bass setting compared the above songs. Too boomy for me. IMO, this little DAC is worth the money and definitely worth of the quality. |
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Aug 9 2012, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(GenericMav @ Aug 9 2012, 02:04 PM) hmm, hearing is believing. if you're up for poisoning session (there'll be lots of victim), hope you can join us at the AT gathering Thanks for inviting! I will check and see if I can attend |
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Aug 10 2012, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(e-Gamers' Corner @ Aug 9 2012, 02:36 PM) Here's a quick and brief review about ESS9023(compared to 2704, well, it's not fair to compare between them as like as TS said they are in 'different league', but since alot of ppl interested to know the differrence, well here it is.....). Thanks for sharing~~Testing equipments Speaker 1: Logitech Z2300 playing from PC Speaker 2: Paradigm monitor playing from PC thru marantz amp (pure direct enabled) 1. Emi Fujita's Fields of Gold flac, 9023 sounded wider and sharper. Yes, you can definitely hear the differrence, it's quite obvious right after I switched from 2704 to 9023. Bass is deeper but not at annoying level (i don't like boomy bass). 2. Tsai Chin's Take care tonight flac, 9023 sounded more neutral and better vocal. Medium freq not much differrence. 3. Ronan Hardiman's Heaven, again sounded awesome but I hv to lower the bass setting compared the above songs. Too boomy for me. IMO, this little DAC is worth the money and definitely worth of the quality. From the feedback given, I'm tempting to try it! chchyong89, PM me ur acc~~ tq~ This post has been edited by xEDynamics: Aug 10 2012, 07:53 PM |
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Aug 11 2012, 06:21 PM
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Aug 12 2012, 02:49 AM
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want 1 unit
pm me your detail.. what USB chip you are using? want to know it can support this driver or not? http://www.usb-audio.com/download.html This post has been edited by ming86: Aug 12 2012, 02:51 AM |
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Aug 12 2012, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(ming86 @ Aug 12 2012, 02:49 AM) want 1 unit No driver is needed for this DAC. pm me your detail.. what USB chip you are using? want to know it can support this driver or not? http://www.usb-audio.com/download.html Welcome joining UD100 club~ |
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Aug 13 2012, 12:03 AM
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I bought an 2704 from you last time (before the big issue).
So I can consider this as an upgrade lah? I intend to use this with iPad --> Camera Connection Kit --> chchyong89's UD100 (will add battery/power if required). You reckon it'll work? *Poor man's portable audiophilia setup. |
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Aug 13 2012, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(iamyuanwu @ Aug 13 2012, 12:03 AM) I bought an 2704 from you last time (before the big issue). Hi, its definitely an upgrade for you. So I can consider this as an upgrade lah? I intend to use this with iPad --> Camera Connection Kit --> chchyong89's UD100 (will add battery/power if required). You reckon it'll work? *Poor man's portable audiophilia setup. Btw, you are using it for your speaker? |
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Aug 13 2012, 03:22 AM
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Headphones and earbuds.
Might also give it a shot on my parents' el-cheapo speakers & T-amp. Hah hah! Thinking about DIY'ing O2 amp and Bijou when the money ain't so tight. =) How would you rate UD100 vs ODAC (which is also based on ESS9023)? Will this work? Mac Mini --> UD100 --> headphones (without amp) *** I'll bite the bullet and buy it. PM transaction details, bro! COD preferred. |
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Aug 13 2012, 11:03 AM
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i already have a creative xfi music sound card...how much of a difference would this baby make? im using a Altec Lansing mx5021
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Aug 13 2012, 08:02 PM
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PM me best price for 3 units including postage.
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Aug 13 2012, 09:55 PM
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Aug 13 2012, 11:03 PM
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Received the sexy UD100
I will do the review later... ![]() |
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Aug 14 2012, 04:50 PM
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Received mine , yes it is that small xD ~ first impression, very musical sound~ far better than the previous PCM2704 USB DAC.
Update: Damn i cannot stop listen to songs in pc, from noon till night, i wasted one day again without doing my FYP ![]() ![]() This post has been edited by xk2: Aug 14 2012, 09:37 PM |
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Aug 14 2012, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(xk2 @ Aug 14 2012, 04:50 PM) Received mine , yes it is that small xD ~ first impression, very musical sound~ far better than the previous PCM2704 USB DAC. still testing now ~ first open sound impression : ![]() LOL at this! |
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Aug 15 2012, 12:04 AM
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Received mine..
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