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 Kiara Residence 2, Bukit Jalil / Bukit OUG v2, A concept quadrant zone living in BJ

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post Jun 23 2015, 06:08 PM

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Any pics of the main entrance of the condo and also of the LRT station?
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post Jun 24 2015, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 24 2015, 05:34 PM)
I am talking about the facade. The facade looks like a low cost condo parking building.

Take a look at the parking for Trees and ZR as seen from outside.

Looks like there is about 20 years gap between the design.
Could be true. But then again I wasn't expecting much in the first place for a RM 435psf price. Im more concerned about the quality of the paintwork and infrastructure. If that's fine, then I guess its acceptable.
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post Jun 24 2015, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 24 2015, 08:37 PM)
Nah, I don't own any of that.

Lots of pictures were captured but none capture them from Kesas.

Only see it from Kesas you can feel it's naked, hollow and cheap, mainly due to the car park facade.
No worries. End of the day buyers of KR1 and KR2 will make a good return on their investment due their low entry price compared to other condos in the area and also due to the upcoming malls.

My only regret now is that I should have gone for that 3rd unit that Chris gave me info on. But 2 is good enuf I guess. nod.gif
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post Jun 24 2015, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 24 2015, 11:10 PM)
Its time for v3 soon

Kekkekeke, for buy, sell or rent discussions.
What are the list of new condo's around KR2 which recently VP'd and their average selling price psf now?
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post Jun 25 2015, 08:17 AM

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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Jun 25 2015, 07:50 AM)
Would KR2 owners sell their units if the price upon VP is more or less the same as KR1? For example, type C (1400+ sq ft) selling at RM700k.

Interesting to know as it'll also affect the price of surrounding condos since new condo would generate another wave of interest in the vicinity, esp if the LRT is up and running then
Obviously not unless they are very desperate to sell. Selling a 1457sf unit at KR2 for RM480psf is well below the current market value.
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post Jun 25 2015, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Jun 25 2015, 09:00 AM)
My target is at least RM550/sft with reference of launching price at surroundings BJ which is above RM600/sft. There is still some catalyst to boost the price up a notch if the holding power is there. Even some "ulu" place launching price also trying to fetch $500/sft, unless if some members here desperate for money badly.
Im 100% sure that getting RM550psf for the bigger units is not an issue. By the time KR2 gets VP, the LRT station would be operational and work on Paradigm 2 would have just begun. Pavilion 2 is already market news and at RM800psf, that's a new benchmark for Bukit Jalil and will surely boost prices at KR2.

And no im not just saying this because I have 2 units at KR2. Its a fact. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ah_chung @ Jun 25 2015, 10:27 AM)
Any idea why KR1 can only fetch this low price for bigger unit? Launching price low? Supply > Demand?

I saw in iProperty, 1050 sf is selling at 600k, by topping up <100k (some 1457 sf even selling at 680K), which means the extra 400 sf is selling at <RM250 psf!! what a good deal... brows.gif
Based on actual transacted prices for KR1, B3-8, 1021sf was sold for RM578psf in Jan this year. No updates since then. Similar sized units were sold for between RM588-600 psf in Dec 2014.

Just for comparison, KM1 last recorded transaction was a 1,508sf unit on the 9th floor sold for exactly RM1mil in Feb this year. This works out to be RM663 psf. Other higher floor units were transacted at around RM667-696psf end last year.
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Any idea what are reno costs now? The last time I did any condo reno was in 2012.
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post Jun 25 2015, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 02:08 PM)
Meanwhile, Type C at middle floor at KR2 Tower 1 was booked at RM 780k 2 mths ago and awaiting S&P signing to complete the transaction. The asking price now would be min RM 800k and RM 830k or above for Tower 3.
Any 'transacted' Type C units at KR2 Tower 3?
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 03:33 PM)
Not sure bcz seldom keep in touch with developer's agents.

Heard my friend told me some buyer is looking for biggies now as they received calls from agents mentioned buyers looking for their 1595 sq ft or if not, 1457 sq ft. I didnt receive any call anyway since last 2 months.
I only got 1 call so far for my 1457sf units around 3 months ago. RM500psf which I obviously said NO.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 25 2015, 03:41 PM)
Weird, the calls I received was informed that a buyer looking for Type C, any block but facing North / Kesas / Pool and offer RM 780k. Similarly, my friends ( the view of the unit the buyer looking for ) received the same calls and offered RM 780k too, but they insists on selling at RM 800-850k, lol.

While my unit was facing the opposition, the agent added on how much I looking for sale but I said not then.

If RM 500 psf, I will ask the agent go study the surrounding price or why dont call to KM 1 West, The Treez or KM 1 East to sell the same price at RM 500 psf!
Now that u mentioned the RM780K price tag, I think I made a mistake. It was the same buyer I think. So that would be RM535 psf and not RM500 psf as I indicated.
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QUOTE(DavidAw @ Jun 25 2015, 04:41 PM)
It really depends on your requirements and budget. I've seen decent Reno and they spent about RM50k.

I personally spent about RM70k including furniture and applicances. Could've done with less.
Yes. But in my case, both units are for investment. So if im gonna rent out, reno would be slightly different compared to a direct sale. My last reno for a 1356sf unit and fit out with quality fixtures in 2012 cost me RM 37K. But my condo where im staying now, I spent 30K on renovation which was quite extensive + 36K on fit out back in 2009.

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 02:20 PM)
I wish to sell my unit but I am not too excited about selling it now as I see that my profitability will suffer significantly due to :-

1. RPGT.
2. Loan lock-in period.

Anyone know if how easy to get the bank will approve a waiver on the penalty ? I remember for my case of 90% loaner, the disbursement was quite early, and so the 3 years of lock-in period for my case might happen quite soon. So it might be better for me to wait till it expires.

Alternatively I will rent it out in the meantime. Then come my next question. What's the minimum renovation which will be good for rental purposes ? I am looking at perhaps 20k region.

What do you guys think ?
For rental its not so much on reno but on fit out. Im also planning for reno and I already have 1 other condo on rental at TTDI. In our case with KR2, its gonna be a buyers / renters market because there will be many units up for sale or rent. So you need to stand out enough to get a decent rental but not too much that it empties your pocket.

I would do minor work on my KR2 units e.g plaster ceiling, built in cabinets, fittings for toilets, kitchen etc. Electrical items I will get from Legends SS2. Ive gotten very good prices from them since 2009 so I will go back to them. I anticipate my budget to be about 15-20K max for each unit. I have another 4 units bought by close friends and family members here at KR2 so ill surely nego with 1 contractor to get a good reno price for all 6.
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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 02:48 PM)
Good advise!  Yeah basic reno is what I am looking at. Maybe you can add mine into it to make it all 7.  icon_rolleyes.gif
Can no problem. We can finalise our options once we get VP end of the year. The more the easier to nego with contractors / suppliers.
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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 02:20 PM)
I wish to sell my unit but I am not too excited about selling it now as I see that my profitability will suffer significantly due to :-
1. RPGT.
2. Loan lock-in period.
RPGT is calculated from the SPA date. So if your SPA was signed in Jan 2013 (like me), if I decide to sell in 2016, I will kena 30% RPGT tax on the chargeable gain.

If this is your first property disposal, you get a full waiver. For subsequent disposals, you get a RM10K or 10% (whichever is higher) waiver on your profits.

Chargeable Gain = Disposal Price - Purchased Price (based on SPA) - Exemption waiver

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QUOTE(tmc @ Jun 26 2015, 03:09 PM)
Btw, the 15k-20k budget is inclusive or exclusive of the electrical applicances ? How much to allocate for them ?
Well i'll first evaluate what kind of rental price we can get for that area. I don't think it will be good enough to cover my monthly loan repayments. So depending on how good rental is, ill decide how long ill be renting for vs selling. But am prepared for a RM 2,500 rental p/month and rent until 2018 before selling.

I doubt ppl would want a semi furnished unit these days. Most ppl want fully furnished units / move in condition. Less hassle. So if I fully furnish, ill put in a LED TV, fridge, dining table + 6 chairs, TV cabinet, 3+2 sofa, king size bed for master room and queen sized beds for the 2nd & 3rd room. I can do that for about 14K. Add on about 6K for plaster ceiling so total about 20K.

Anyway that's just the plan. Will make final decision once VP.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 26 2015, 04:06 PM)
Hmm, expected selling price around close to RM 800k or ono, just less than RM 200k appreciation before profit & cost, if I am selling, I could be not asking for the one time RPGT waiver, unless higher profit.
If 800K selling price, then profit is about RM 120,000 for my unit (based on SPA price).

So 30% RPGT is RM36K - 10% of 120,000 = RM24,000.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jun 26 2015, 04:27 PM)
Huh ...
SPA price is 680K and 705K respectively.
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 26 2015, 05:23 PM)
But they had a buyer who bought it at RM780k a few months back. That's the basis of their optimism. Maybe that purchase was an exception ....
You should note that some of us are seasoned property investors who aren't just focused in Bukit Jalil. While I admit many would have bought with the herd mentality, I personally know of many who invested in KR2 after a lot of analysis, consideration of future developments, potential capital appreciation plus their own financial stability. Also many of us here are financially stable enough to weather the current economic climate. You only make a profit/loss on an investment when you sell and I don't think ull see many of the KR2 buyers in a panic selling mode in 2016 unless the economy really goes bust. If that happens, property would be the least of our concerns.

Just for your info, my group of buyers (close friends & family members) who invested in KR2 are all in the RM22-27K monthly salary bracket. Not saying they are top of the rank but they aren't down there either.

So no, im quite certain for many of us, our basis of optimism has nothing to do with that one sale 2 months back.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Jun 26 2015, 05:39 PM)
Pointed noted.

But kochin boss is also a veteran. He is also vested in bukit jalil.
Yes im quite aware of that. Familiar face on this thread since the start. I guess we'll know by early next year who's right or wrong. If the price isn't right, then most of us will just hold on and try and rent it out I guess. No real point pondering the what if's at this stage.

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