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 Kiara Residence 2, Bukit Jalil / Bukit OUG v2, A concept quadrant zone living in BJ

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post Oct 14 2012, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Oct 14 2012, 12:26 AM)
saw few young couple signing n overheard they bought for own stay.. good to hear that..
one of the couple refuse to sign until they manage to appeal for better carpark which is understandable since they r buying for own stay.. wonder r they in this forum  hmm.gif

mine is in the middle. since its side by side, not much complain..
for zest, side by side is further from lift while those near lift r tandem.. so either one pros n cons..  nod.gif


Added on October 14, 2012, 12:28 amby the way, my legal fee is 6.5k.. they miscalculated earlier which was 9k when they told me .. 3k + 3k = 9k  rclxub.gif
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I still found a lot buying for own stay rather than investment, except few of my friends. And I myself very tempted to keep one for own stay due to some reason that, I unable to find a good timing to buy a unit of super link at the moment ...

Wahh, the couple appeal for the car park lots ahh? LOL ... I think they either got L4 or the bays which very very far to the lift ...

Anyhow, sometimes, it is very difficult to accommodate all buyers and developer... but certainly, premium buyers shall get premium car parking or those sacrifice for Lvl 1,2, 3 or 3A, or 13A shall get this premium lot too ...

If middle of the car park rows, then of course, consider decent enough.

If I can remember correctly, there are 3 rows of parking bays fronting the lift lobby for Tower 1 & 2. Those next to lift lobby are tandem parkings and those individual parking bays at row 3 ( which nearest to LRT station ) could be a bit annoying , I am not sure until upon completion. The middle have no issue and for those got 3rd row but at bit far to the left sided or East, then you have to walk a bit far ...

For Tower 3, if you get Tandem Parkings, you need to walk a L shape before you reach Lift Lobby. Worst still, there are few units would hit the fate if they got the few tandem parking at the very very last spot which purposely dedicated for the tandem parkings. For those individual car park bays, I think most likely no complaint, as you either get the row next to lift lobby of the row facing lift lobby, just depends on luck which number or how far you get it. But overall, quite good.

I try to share it shortly.

P/S : whatever stated above was based on the old master plan ( more than 6 months olds ), or unless they changed it, then the info would be incorrect.



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post Oct 15 2012, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(ah_chung @ Oct 15 2012, 09:52 AM)
bro, yes. some of us has done signing S&P and LA. according to taikors here, now there are a few solicitors involved. early buyers will get sng & co's call to make appointment for the signing session. as for other solicitors, i'm not sure about that... have u got ur LO ready?
chris-gor, i got tandem parking lots, but can exit front and back... lolz.. regarding the DIBS letter from developer about the "Term Loan", do u hv any idea? how do u define "Term Loan"? thx! smile.gif
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Wahh chung gor, its great that ur tandem parking is front n back entry or exit. It is quite similar to individual parking then. Gratz. Or all tandem parking is the same?

But wat do u mean DIBS Letter about the Term Loan? I yet to get the letter so I cant comment it bcz normally Term Loan is terms by the bank, not developer.


Added on October 15, 2012, 2:18 pm
QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 15 2012, 12:16 PM)
So the developer can dishonour the DIBS + freebies if they want? Any taiko would like to comment on this?
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Yes. Rightfully speaking, if without such letter or agreement, the developer can dishonour the freebies and the DIBS.

Some of the panel banks did mistake in their LO where no DIBS terms was stated and no consent letter was signed by borrower except Alliance Bank had both in their way to protect the bank n borrowers to sue developer legimately.

For the freebies, its between developer n buyer.

For DIBS, its between developer, borrower and banks. When banks offering DIBS in their EF, they did all the background checking n ensure the developer to sign the agreement where they have to bear all the progressive interest to the bank n cc to borrower. Failure to do, the bank would sue the company however, the progressive interest would be pay by borrower in the event wherr developer unable to pay so or project abandoned, this applicable to all DIBS projects.

With its status and sales progress, although they are first time developer, the looks of being abandon was very minimized. Financially, they are not as top as SPS, IOI or Sunway but certainly ahead of few new or boutique developers.

I found no reason why the developer would dishonour the DIBS or freebies, given the huge profit they making from all KR1, KR2 and RR where one mistake, would spoil their reputation in the future and also would caused a lot problems to their KR1 and RR, where both sold out or sold 90% easily. If all above happen, none of this 3 projects buyer would sleep nicely.

However, I agree that the developer should honour an agreement to state the DIBS n freebies to avoid any major doubts in future.



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post Oct 16 2012, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(jasonchong07 @ Oct 15 2012, 11:59 AM)

I am interested with KR2 for either investment or own stay due to its locations and the package offered.

However, I am concerning on the following:
1) High price- 600K++ is quite expensive
2) Developer- since they are new
3) Workmanship
4) Actual look of the condo as there was no show room

My request is simply to ask for your kind advice on the benefits of buying this property.

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Bro, to buy for investment and own stay possess very different opinion and decision making. To buy for own stay, u already had wat u want in ur opinion while for investment you may think of wat is most wanted facing, size, unit, floor and number. If u combine both, you found hard for decision making since now only left Type C 1457 sq ft units or bigger.

Price point of RM 600k+
Yes. IMHO, the price point for a leasehold condo is high. One would consider for a landed instead. The purchase was made without taking a look into the show room and the company, as a developer is new. But this is 1457 sq ft price point, a medium huge size condo bearing KL address and with some add up point such as security, multi tier access, lobby and etc. At RM 400-440 psf wise, with such features, freebies, I adamant to say it is btw cheap and fair where others in BJ easily selling abv RM 550-600 psf.

Developer wise, they are new. But the company has track record of being a main con with few projects completed such as Subang Avenue, Embassy View and financially, they are much stronger than few other boutique developers. For JV of Knox Group, another consultant / main con turned to be developer, sold their RR even hotter than IOI's Skypod or SPS's Trigon. I believe, its pricing, marketing and of course, the concepts of the condo was the main selling points.

Workmanship.
Cant define much except we take a look into their previous projects they built as main con. So far, no much major complaint although no perfect.

Showroom?
Without this, KR1 sold out easily. Without this KR2 can sold out their Type A easily. Type B and C a bit slower due to facing issue and probably RR launched at the same time. The projects itself attracted the same group or pool of buyers itself included me. So, I dont think they would need to splash more than half a million to find a space in The Link n build a showroom where it had been sold 90% to date.

Overall, KR2 has it pros and cons. So just see which you can adapt. Location is good but some deem it is not too good due to next to LRT. Some claimed, next to LRT would benefit KR2 compare to otherd in terms of rental. Tenant who rent condo near LRT would not see the freehold or leasehold tag. To say the facade is very beautiful or very high end, no, it is just average good and no superman like Twin Arks, it is up to individual needs. Pricing of RM 600k+, I do worry it's high but if we compare any new launches surrounded, it was either RM 500+ or RM 600+ psf.

Can sell RM 550 or RM 600 psf upon VP? We dunno, but it is still cool profit if RM 550 psf. If kenot sell, thosr enter at RM 550+ psf project do have much worry 3 years later conpare to KR2.

IMHO, KR2 is can buy and do-able. But not a MUST buy. Hehe.




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post Oct 17 2012, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 17 2012, 12:47 AM)
Dear kenzo,

You mean KR2 not officially launched yet?
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Previously we all bought it via sales preview or soft launch where we paid to solicitor as stakeholder bcz AP & DL not yet obtain. Developer cannot officially launch their project bfore both obtained.

They can officially launch it now but they want to secure the S&P signing first due to pending too long and most buyers who bought for own stay was rushing n eager to sign it. So, I think they wanna launch this after S&P signing almost completed and after RR ballotting done at early Nov. They had busy schedule ahead.

So, they only officially launch this after most of the S&P was secured in conjunction to a thanksgiving ceremony for those bought it. Hehe.



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post Oct 18 2012, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 17 2012, 10:45 PM)
Hi t3n, yes, KR 2 still some unit available, understand also that some Kiara Residence 1 bumi unit already open to non bumi, you may go to sales office & find out.
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KR1 bumi lot unit had been open since more than 1 or 2 months ago. The price was increased and was only 10% variant or cheaper compare to KR2.

I not sure the sale status but personally I prefer KR2 due to better facing with no blocking, higher floors of 30 storey to grant better view, facilities are more than KR1, with Sky Garden at all 3 towers and etc.

KR1 early buyers would be holding the advantages where they only enter at RM 300 psf circa. If u prefer lower density but smaller land and do not mind either facing Bkt OUG condo, facing block to block or highway, then KR1 might be a worthy choice.


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post Oct 22 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 22 2012, 11:12 AM)
We can only guess the car park allocation scheme.

Maybe they reward people who purchased so-called "less preferred" units ?

But higher floors smaller built up (which are VERY VERY POPULAR ) are also rewarded.

Looks like the allocation scheme is kind of !@#$%^.
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Khelben got a very nice parking lots. Congratz to him.

The developer rewards those who buy early. Not sure on those less preferred unit.

Khelben unit was small built up of Type A but its fair he get such allocation bcz he paid higher premium compare to lower floors buyer. Furthermore, the additional 150 sq ft of extra lanai or bigger balcony, he was paid for the premium as well and it took time to sell all these units due to higher pricing and less useable built up compare to normal Type A.

Good Luck to other buyers who are yet to sign the S&P to know their parking lots.


Added on October 22, 2012, 11:52 am
QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 22 2012, 11:45 AM)
Hi all, would like to know are some of the car park is tandem parking?
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Yes. All the Type A units ( except higher floors premium units ) and selected Type B at lower floors of 2-6.

The rest of Type B ( Lvl 7 onwards ) and C ( all ) are all side by side. This inclusive all units with extra garden, double lanai and bigger balcony units.

Quite a good news that, the tandem parking given was front and back where you can remove ur car front or back and not need to reverse one of the car to get second car out.



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post Oct 22 2012, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 22 2012, 11:54 AM)
Sorry that's not quite true lar in my view.

My booking was like Jan 2012 and I still get L3, quite a distance away from the lift serving my unit. Yes, it's near to a lift, but that's a lift not servicing my unit.

The only valid conclusion is that, it is !@#$%^.
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Too bad to hear this bro.

If i get parking lot at L3 or lower which too far from lift, i might considering cancel my both units. Unless i buy low floors or Type A, else cant accept it too. Lol.
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post Oct 22 2012, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 22 2012, 12:18 PM)
This was what the SA told me when I before I made my booking. Now the tandem parking is no longer front & back. #$%^&*(
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Quite surprise bro.

Which SA told u this? All the meantime, tandem parking is front and back with one way in or out. I was told this since a year ago. Unless, it is with special allocations with additional spaces.

I also quite surprise one of the forummer gets tandem but can enter n exit via front or back, which is already similar to side by side parking.

Somebody need to check this out.



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post Oct 22 2012, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 22 2012, 12:28 PM)
Paying 600k plus & getting one way tandem parking??  vmad.gif
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I quite agree into this.

But as far as I am concern, all Type C buyers get side by side parking no matter low or high floors. How come gets tandem parking?

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QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 22 2012, 12:34 PM)
A new & inexperienced SA, called him up & said just transferred from other project to KR2 & apologized. Might thinking of cancelling my unit, need to discuss with home minister first.

What is your view of one way tandem parking? Can you accept the tandem parking?
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Tandem parking is not an issue for me if I buy Type A bcz these pricing of below RM 500k became standard for quite a lot new condos offering tandem parking like other countries. Or I was well inform about this prior to my booking.

Tandem and side by side is one of the decision making if we sell off the unit one day. So this is very crucial.

But I cant accept tandem parking for a RM 600k condo


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post Oct 22 2012, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(great2bcool @ Oct 22 2012, 12:42 PM)
mine is tower 3/type b4 low unit, it was one of the remaining unit I booked one month ago, I remember read in this thread about tandem parking therefore I asked the SA about this matter & unfortunately, this inexperienced SA told me the incorrect info.
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Bro, if u referring my previous post, I did mentioned all Type B4 at lower floors ( Level 2, 3, 3A and 5 ) are tandem parking. Type B4 Lvl 5 onwards are all side by side parking.

Probably u need to ask ur SA to explain allover again n try ur luck whether any loan rejected unit at higher floor.


Added on October 22, 2012, 1:50 pm
QUOTE(ah_chung @ Oct 22 2012, 12:43 PM)
hey guys, are u talking about me? haha
i got tandem parking lots but located in the middle of the car parks, that's why both the cars can exit front n back... between my unit is Type C middle floor, and car park L3 sad.gif

another question, how many lifts are serving 1 tower? 3? or 6 (3 for left quadrant and 3 for right quadrant)?
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Ohh bro, urs are side by side. Not tandem. U confused a lot of bro here. Lol.

Btw for Tower 1 and 2 are adjoining towers to share one lobby. Left 3 lifts to service 2 quadrant zones of Tower 2. While right side will have another 3 lifts to service 2 quadrant zones of Tower 1.

Clearer now? Lol.


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post Oct 22 2012, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Travaller @ Oct 22 2012, 01:26 PM)
Huh Im also B4 but before i buy they told me is side by side. U making me worried de.
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You can refer to my earlier comment.

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Seems many are very unhappy with their car parks allocation esp Type C buyers.

Strange and weird allocation n surprise me.

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post Oct 23 2012, 09:32 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 23 2012, 07:10 AM)
Because type C buyers paid the most amount of money.

Allocate car park based on the amount of money one pays, that's basic !

Are they practising BN cronies system or what ?  vmad.gif
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I definitely know Type C buyers paid the most amount of money bro. Tats why I said I am strange with their arrangement. And I having 2 units of Type C.

But I am sure T1 and T2 has diff fate with the T3 bcz T3 no Type A and only Type B4 or C.

I also cant accept if my high floor units locatef at L3 or L4.

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:34 AM)
bro, signed ur snp adi?
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Not yet. S&P ready but want to sign together with loan doc. No time to go dev office and questions all the info of the freebies, DIBS letter and car parks issue.



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post Oct 24 2012, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 23 2012, 09:00 PM)
You got side by side parking lot  ?
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In front of lift should be Tandem parking.

Moreover bro firdaus bought Type A at Lvl 5.


Now I would like to know any Type C buyer get Grd Or L1 floor bcz 2 of my frens, both high floors at tower 3 get L2. Tower 3 all type B4 or C, I wish to noe who gets the Grd or L1.

Another med high floor Type A at Tower 1 gets L3 tandem.


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QUOTE(phekjoo @ Oct 24 2012, 01:10 AM)
bro chris. your fren high floor type C at tower 3 only managed to get L2? i wonder they reserve Grd or L1 car parks for which unit then. dun tell me is visitor's car park? they really screwed up with the car park allocation.  rclxub.gif
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Maybe reserve for all type B2a or C2 ( all with double lanai ) and Lvl 1 units with extra garden... Lol.

I forgotten the visitor parking allocation. Most likely Ground Floor. I suggest they should put all into L4 or else I can confirm the Grd Flr bays would be fully occupy.

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QUOTE(phekjoo @ Oct 24 2012, 07:38 AM)
Meaning all the residents can park their cars at visitor's parking at grd floor  rclxms.gif  visitors will not have place to park their cars. Agree with u they should really put into L4.
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Correct.

It can be a convenience for our guests or frens to park at Grd Flr but i think this is very seldom we have guest coming frequently. So, I rather they allocate it to L3/4 and reserve all the better parking lot to residents.




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QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 24 2012, 09:06 AM)
If GF is primarily visitor parking, don't forget about the L1 side-by-side parking. Where have they disappear to ?
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If I can remember correctly. The floor plan for L1-L4 is same, except L4 have extra walkway to the facilities area.

But Grd Flr only have limited parking lots as this level needed more spaces for lift lobby, mail room, waiting lobby, drop off foyer, loading bay for lorry and etc.

But I not sure whether got side by side parking. Probably its 2 individual parkings with front and back entry or exit. I think bro Khelben got this.


Added on October 24, 2012, 9:46 am
QUOTE(tmc @ Oct 24 2012, 09:39 AM)
Honestly I feel we are just guessing.

Maybe they already allocate L4 ( a few units only ) for visitors.
It's the facility floor, visitors have got more things to see there than GF.

Maybe they allocated GF and L1 to "cronies".
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Haha. Cronies...

I still finding my time and make appointment with developers to get latest updates and clarification about car parks allocation.


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post Oct 24 2012, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(khelben @ Oct 24 2012, 09:52 AM)
Mine are side by side but against the wall. Means no front and back entry, if I understand you correctly hehe.
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Ohh ic. Side by side. Tats great too. Maybe the masterplan I having was outdated or I cant remember. Lol.

Probably there are one row of side by side next to the wall which I missed out.

Great parking lots u got! The best among LYN member so far, hehe.



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