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 vios or city? both 2012 facelifed..which to buy?, budjet around 86k

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omnimech
post Aug 2 2012, 09:53 AM

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If you buy the vios, you are a f***in idiot.

That car has been face lifted umpteen times.

Toyota is just milking the car for all it is worth.

The technology is borderline ancient.

The design is dated.

The suspension is shit.

The engine is even more shit.

GO ahead, buy the vios =.=


Added on August 2, 2012, 9:58 am
QUOTE(BabiDoll @ Aug 2 2012, 09:51 AM)
agree
Toyota = resale value top
vios = spare parts easy to find and easy maintain plus cheap price with quality
Toyota = SC very good and Customer First
vios = engine noise actually is not loud as city. you park both car and turn off/on air con to compare. vios win.
vios = FC very good, city = FC super duper high..
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where on god's green earth do you get your bloody facts from.

You just comment for the sake of commenting ?

You are comparing a dated Toyota 10 yr old engine versus a relatively new 3 to 4 yr old engine from Honda.

And the best you can do is engine noise ?

Vios FC GOOD ? really ? City SUPER DUPER HIGH ? Really ?

I am lazy to even bother googling for the spec sheet. Go do it yourself.

Argh. Retard.





This post has been edited by omnimech: Aug 2 2012, 09:58 AM
omnimech
post Aug 2 2012, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(BabiDoll @ Aug 2 2012, 10:03 AM)
Are you driving one City/Honda now..? why you looks so hot now...?  doh.gif  doh.gif
you are the one need do more research. use googling? omg.. you must got trolled by internet like how govt use media to troll kampungboy.
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Facts are facts, which you obviously know nothing.

The current generation vios was introduced in Malaysia October 5, 2007

Using the same engine as the previous generation which was introduced in 2003.

Basically, that piece of shit car is using the same engine for 10 years, and they justify price increase with the smallest of exterior upgrades.

Furthermore, its is obvious from your previous postings that all your facts on cars are pulled out from your ass.

This post has been edited by omnimech: Aug 2 2012, 12:25 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 02:39 PM

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QUOTE(BabiDoll @ Aug 2 2012, 02:08 PM)
Facts?
YES. current 2007 vios with the previous old gen vios is same engine, so..? Use engine which is more than 5/8 years old consider not good..? Its engine is proven reliable yet practical! City new GB with 5AT for sure is better than 4AT GB in vios? Which way of facts u are mentioning?  You must be kidding that FC of honda city not considered high.. even with its 5AT GB, the FC is still freaking high. maybe you never drive vios before thats why you dont feel city FC actually is very high. FYI my younger sister drive honda city year 2011. drive it yourself and compare. dont be stupid get troll by people or media like how government treat u all to vote for him.
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My dear sir.

Maybe your lack of education causes you to be easily "trolled" by people and media.

But facts are facts.

Why do you pay so much for dated technology ? And I mean extremely dated technology.

Your argument "Proven reliable yet practical" is something out from the government books. If it aint broke, dont fix it.

Toyota is abusing ways to get more profit, not because the engine is reliable. Its because fools still want to buy the car eventhough the technology is so ancient, it should be lumped together with a nissan sunny and thrown away.

Admittedly the vios has a range of perhaps 500 km on a full tank while the Honda City about 450 km.

Which I feel is negligible because of the City having a more powerful engine (in terms of output).

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Bottom line, if you want to be a fool of a consumer, then please go ahead. Im am happy your parents actually had the brains to buy a honda city and not listen to their son sprout nonsense.

Conclusion, Toyota is abusing the fact that Malaysians have the idiotic mindset of Toyota & Honda is good.

For the amount of money, there are many other car models to consider. But since the TS mention T v H, ill keep to that topic.

This post has been edited by omnimech: Aug 2 2012, 02:42 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:06 PM

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QUOTE(BabiDoll @ Aug 2 2012, 02:54 PM)
high FC because got better output..? topspeed maybe will win by 10kmh only or maybe same.
for pickup and city use, anytime vios win. 0 to 100kmh can smoke city anytime. even a drunkman in vios can smoke your city for the pickup. for highway drive, comfort wise, both same only. last time i try use my sis honda city, maxspeed just 185km also. i just back from kl to penang last weekend and i able to achieve 195kmh for stock vios, sport rim 15". Even at 160 to 180kmh average, full tank come back to penang still left 4 bars petrol.
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Every time you talk about a car, you somehow manage to be able to drive one and give your opinion on it.

Seems kind of dubious to me, but fine, Ill bite.

First of all, i drive a much faster car than a vios or a city, so before you start saying you are going to smoke me, please check what car you drive.

Secondly, the honda city have a limited top speed via ecu which can be unlocked. And I can assure you, if you start high revving both cars, the FC is going to be about the same.

The FC i posted above was related to city drive and the driver has to have a very soft right foot.

Advertised FC is always based on drivers driving style.

I am not sure what is the max bars of petrol for a vios but I somewhat doubt that it is more than half tank after the trip from KL to Penang especially, if you are constantly at 180 to 195 kmph if you so claim..

Anyways, bottom line. My argument from the start is.

Vios is very dated technology. Comparing Toyota to Honda. Honda City is a better choice.

If you were to bring in Kia Forte, or Ford Fiesta,

I may argue, that those are better choices and the Ford Fiesta is cheaper than both T and H.
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(calvin_ng @ Aug 2 2012, 03:06 PM)
all rite since you want to compare lets compare

Pulled from their respective website

Honda City (Facelift)
Engine Type 4 Cylinder 16 Valve SOHC i-VTEC
Fuel Supply System PGM-FI (Programmed Fuel Injection)
Bore & Stroke (mm) 73.0 x 89.4
Displacement (cc) 1,497
Compression Ratio 10.4
Maximum Power [PS(kW)/rpm] 120PS (88)@6,600
Maximum Torque [Nm(kg-m)/rpm] 145 (14.8)@4,800
Drive-by-Wire (DBW)  YES

Toyota VIOS
Engine Model    1NZ-FE
Engine Type Type4-Cylinder In-line, 16-Valve, DOHC with VVT-i
Displacement (cc)1,497
Max. Output (SAE-NET)80kW (109PS) / 6,000 rpm
Max. Torque (SAE NET)141Nm (14.4kg-m) / 4,200 rpm

so the answer Acceleration from 0-100 need good torque

Vios has 141NM at 4200 rpm while City has 145NM at 4,800 (City has higher rev for the engine to climb)

Top speed

Vios has 109PS while City has 120PS WOW

Also look at gearbox

Type4-Speed Automatic with Super ECT on VIOS
5-Speed Automatic with Shift Hold Control on CITY also come with paddle shift biggrin.gif!!!
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Dont bother la.

Previous discussion about Audi TT versus Golf GTI also this fella pull out bullshit from the air.

He knows nothing yet talks as if he owns every car in the world in his garage.

He drove this and he drove that.

When corrected, he can come out with arguement like, he only drove a golf gti before and he smoked an audi tt. hence his conclusion is audi tt is shit and golf gti is da bomb.

* Regardless of whether the Audi TT was even trying to race. LOl


This post has been edited by omnimech: Aug 2 2012, 03:10 PM
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post Aug 2 2012, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(BabiDoll @ Aug 2 2012, 03:22 PM)
wow.. i never said i own these cars ok.. these are not belong to me.. yeah.. you knows everything and you looks pro.. you know everything. if you are so perfect i guess you wont stay here today. hope you can get rid off your spyware asap smile.gif FYA im not interested to buy good cars also as im more interested on properties. secondly driven many cars before doesnt mean must get one. finally, everyone has their opinion, if everyone were doing same like you, honda city will be the only choice and today Toyota wont be the no.1 top sales http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dr...12-dumping-gm/1
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Wow.

Toyota number 1 car sales immediately means the VIOS is top ?

Oh lord above ........

You do know they have a lot of other different types of cars in foreign market?

Sighz.... why do i even bother la.

Opinions are okay, but you need to back in up with facts.

And it is a fact that the vios is dated technology.

And Toyota should stop milking a dead cow, and come out with a new one.

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