Bodykit makes the car heavier, so the performance should be worse.

But to be honest I don't like either. The Yaris was a rather appalling car, far behind the other B segment cars I have been in (even older ones... it was probably on par with late 1990s B segment contis), and that was a Euro spec Yaris which is probably quite a bit better than what we have here. The City wasn't too good either, no proper seatbelt in the center is wtf? I didn't feel comfortable sitting in the center, the Proton Saga taxi was much more comfortable (I am talking about the old Saga).

My vote would go for a Skoda Fabia (great car, and stable at high speeds (180+) too, while being pretty cheap), or, for choices actually available here the Fiesta sedan... maybe Preve CFE too.

So ridiculous. My Renault diesel was every 20 or 25k. The Touareg V10 diesel first service after 30 to 50k (got sensors to tell you when to go). And here even 10k is not enough? Although apparently even in Europe the Japs tend to have the shortest service intervals. Not hard to be reliable when the car is checked so often, no?

Btw., Toyota GT86 every 15k km, Subaru BRZ every 30k. lol?

http://www.autozeitung.de/rat-tat/service-...gliste?page=0,3 For a look at how it is overseas... most cars every 30k km... including the Honda Jazz.

Of course weather is different, and it also depends on how much each service costs. But still, why do some cars require so frequent service while others don't? Honda every 5k, VW every 15k. In Malaysia. Where the Hondas have rather outdated gearboxes and engines, and VW uses highly turbocharged engines and DSG gearboxes? How can that be?

Think the V10 TDI was a 4.2... not sure though. In any case service costs should be the smallest concern if you drive such a car.

You want to buy a new car and immediately change the suspension? Why not buy a car with the right suspension in the first place?

The Preve turbo is meant to give low end torque. Feel like diesel Also it is meant to lower fuel consumption (at high RPM however the engine will get hot, which requires the car to use petrol to cool down parts of the engine --> very high fuel consumption). Drive it properly and it will be fun to drive and give good FC.

Well, the Fiesta interior isn't pretty. It looks like a Sony boombox from the 90s. Think the materials weren't so great either. But the rest of the car is nice and modern, so I am willing to overlook that.

This is a nice interior:


New Yaris (one day new Vios...?) also not too bad:
http://images.thetruthaboutcars.com/2012/03/IMG_7059.jpg

Forte? In Europe? Where? AFAIK they have the cee'd.

Vios is available as Yaris, and it is doing quite ok for a Japanese car (though since Japanese manufacturers aren't doing so well it's not saying much). The Jazz is available, and occasionally people buy it. However these cars are spec'ed totally differently, and the Yaris is in 3rd gen now, while our Vios is still based on the 2nd gen Yaris.

The Prius C is better spec'ed (in terms of safety, like 7 airbags etc.) than the Malaysian Forte. Personally I'd be getting the Prius C instead, although it probably feels a bit cheap. Anyway is it selling well? I hardly see one on the roads, sadly other Toyotas seem much more popular.

@kiatzz: Easy. Fiesta sedan. Best in terms of safety and value, and apart from that also said to be a good car.

Not fair, since the testing conditions are very different.

When looking at the IIHS results you must keep in mind that they are testing the US version, which is probably much better spec'ed in terms of safety.

The hybrids are good in Malaysia because they are fully equipped Euro, J or US spec cars, meaning they have all the safety equipment that is already standard in those countries. They are NOT ASEAN spec cars.

Oh and when it comes to engines... meanwhile Ford has a 1.0 liter 3 cylinder producing 120+ hp.

lol? Prius competing with a 320i? The 320i has 184 hp, reaches 100 in 7.3s and has a top speed of 235, with an official fuel consumption of 6.1l/100km. The Prius is obviously more frugal (maybe not on the highway), but only has 134 hp and accelerates from 0-100 in 10.4s, top speed 180 km/h. A Prius keeping up with a 320i?

Btw., Fiesta: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsz1mB3c4ZU
Yaris as we have it here, but of course we don't get the side airbags: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOak1MlSp28
And one day this could be the new Vios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXEHMj12Zto
Finally the old Vios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J928KaUPsVM&feature=relmfu No side airbags, so closer to what we get.

One last video: The VW up!, their cheapest and smallest car. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvGeOyg3nuI At the end we also get to see why having the headrest in the right position is important (you slide up during a crash, and the point of the headrest is to prevent your neck from breaking/being over stretched), and we get to see the auto braking feature that is available (or even comes as a standard, not sure).

This post has been edited by kadajawi: Aug 3 2012, 03:44 AM