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 vios or city? both 2012 facelifed..which to buy?, budjet around 86k

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Jinster
post Aug 2 2012, 07:34 AM

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choose a car that doesn't change its make up while having the same inner stuff if u get what i mean -.-" and stay away from hybrid cars if u're in msia..u'll regret -.-" not all will regret though it depends on ur usage, hybrid usually can be used as a 3rd car..

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post Aug 2 2012, 10:13 PM

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@bluehaven

hybrid cars are not meant for our malaysia weather condition..
come on, replacing the battery is roughly RM10k+....don't believe other numbers.... if this number u don't want to believe then i can do nothing about it =)
yes it saves fuel and whatnot because u'll b using the motor and battery the most, that is why, it saves fuel..if change the mode to using fuel, u cannot go far as the tank is not so big to accommodate long distance..
i have nothing against hybrid at other countries..it is going well but still the normal combustion cars are doing even better as well as improving itself thanks to RnD people...
i've seen many hybrid drivers on the right lane especially on the uphill part sleep.gif but going at snail speed which disturbs the traffic...please maintain on the left where u should be because u wanna save fuel..so stay at that lane..thanks~~

regarding the "new" vios which to me is not new....just a car applying new makeup... anyway from beginning, i don't like the middle stye combination meter...i hate it..cars with that, i hate it -.-" how to drive and see the meter/temp/petrol properly...either eye pain or neck pain or whatsoever....come on... got some like it, got some don't like it..i've even saw some put dunno what stuff to block the whole meter assuming it is a place to story stuff there zzz...even my friends, then i advice them but well..up to them =.="" other than this, normal driving, nothing special, value for money? well maybe, resale value high? not really also, depends on how well the car is being taken care of and so on..

the usual what year manufacturing and so on still goes on in trade-ins and condition of the car...colour, body n paint condition, engine, trans, whatsoever...number plate also recently...sweat... every car is now roughly the same...

let's say toyota, honda, mazda, peugeot, ford, nissan, mitsubishi..

cars at that price so n so, after a year, depreciate about 10-15k... roughly, some lower... but it then comes down to car condition and so on... don always think about the brand.. take a look at ur own car condition and see if let's say, u r the buyer...are u going to buy a crappy interior but superb exterior car? badges aren't that important now...

well, my humble opinion
i like honda cars, mazda cars, mitsubishi cars
the rest, i just like a certain model from each badge...
better choose what car u like the most..not what other people like =)

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post Aug 3 2012, 12:00 AM

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@keanutan
don't simply say if u don't know anything about me.

@calvin_ng
good luck to hybrid owners then~
oh i have no qualms with hybrid cars, just those in malaysia =) if u don't know what that means, then it's okay, thx bye..nothing more to talk, next~

p.s. my reply is to the forumer bluehaven -.-" why talk about hybrid here..

no need out of topic...it's about vios n city here~

thus no for vios from me again~

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post Aug 3 2012, 01:25 AM

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nobody is saying bad about hybrid~
our malaysia weather is not suitable for it, that's all..
as long as u're happy with ur car and that nothing bad happens then it's all good~
there's nothing wrong with the technology anyway..perhaps just need more consideration on other places
there is always room for improvement..
oh my..

regarding TS, where r u lol....have u made ur decision?

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post Aug 3 2012, 01:55 AM

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VVT-i, or Variable Valve Timing with intelligence, is an automobile variable valve timing technology developed by Toyota, similar in performance to the BMW's VANOS. The Toyota VVT-i system replaces the Toyota VVT offered starting in 1991 on the 5-valve per cylinder 4A-GE engine. The VVT system is a 2-stage hydraulically controlled cam phasing system.

VVT-i, introduced in 1996, varies the timing of the intake valves by adjusting the relationship between the camshaft drive (belt, scissor-gear or chain) and intake camshaft. Engine oil pressure is applied to an actuator to adjust the camshaft position.

VVTL-i
In 1998, Toyota began offering a new technology, VVTL-i, which can alter valve lift (and duration) as well as valve timing. In the case of the 16 valve 2ZZ-GE, the engine has 2 camshafts, one operating intake valves and one operating exhaust valves. Each camshaft has two lobes per cylinder, one low rpm lobe and one high rpm, high lift, long duration lobe. Each cylinder has two intake valves and two exhaust valves. Each set of two valves are controlled by one rocker arm, which is operated by the camshaft. Each rocker arm has a slipper follower mounted to the rocker arm with a spring, allowing the slipper follower to move up and down with the high lobe without affecting the rocker arm. When the engine is operating below 6000-7000 rpm (dependent on year, car, and ECU installed), the low lobe is operating the rocker arm and thus the valves. When the engine is operating above the lift engagement point, the ECU activates an oil pressure switch which pushes a sliding pin under the slipper follower on each rocker arm. This in effect, switches to the high lobe causing high lift and longer duration.

Toyota has now ceased production of its VVTL-i engines for most markets, because the engine does not meet Euro IV specifications for emissions. As a result, this engine has been discontinued on some Toyota models, including that of the Corolla T-Sport (Europe), Corolla Sportivo (Australia), Celica, Corolla XRS, Toyota Matrix XRS, and the Pontiac Vibe GT, all of which had the 2ZZ-GE engine fitted.

The Lotus Elise continues to offer the 2ZZ-GE and the 1ZZ-FE engine, while the Exige offers the engine with a supercharger.

Dual VVT-i
In 1998, Dual VVT-i which adjusts timing on both intake and exhaust camshafts was first introduced on the RS200 Altezza's 3S-GE engine.

Dual VVT-i is also found in Toyota's new generation V6 engine, the 3.5-liter 2GR-FE first appearing on the 2005 Avalon. This engine can now be found on numerous Toyota and Lexus models. By adjusting the valve timing engine start and stop occurs virtually unnoticeable at minimum compression. In addition fast heating of the catalytic converter to its light-off temperature is possible thereby reducing hydrocarbon emissions considerably.

Toyota's UR engine V8 also use this technology. Dual VVT-i was later introduced to Toyota's latest small 4-cylinder ZR engines found in compact vehicles such as the new Toyota Corolla and Scion and in larger 4-cylinder AR engines found in the Camry and RAV4.

VVT-iE uses an electric motor instead of hydraulic system to control intake valve timing offering greater precision at lower rpms and temperatures.

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