guys who worship vios like shit shud try vios trd..myself ady drive my sis vios trd..defuq..who says campro so loud? from my experience driving my sis vios trd the super duper dual vvti dugong engine oso noisy one..auto revving up to 2-3k i can hear the engine ady roaring..more or less same with my saga flx..u go try test drive first..people who say campro engine so bising one because of big ass compressor..lol..my classmate ride with me oso surprise he cant even hear the engine idling from behind..of course from front can hear a bit...toyota quality sure better than potong..but spec wise..saga flx se 1.6cvt..kbai