currrent model i dont like the front light.,this version look more sport and aggresive .and have led drl front and rear . i love it much than previous  .

KIA K3 Interior

Elantra MD 1.6 recorded 11.5s. Current Forte 0-100km/h in 11.5s. New Forte that is 40kg lighter sharing same platform as Elantra MD, it should be around 11.5s. Considered good already for C-segment 1.6L. Before this, C-segment 1.6L usually takes 12.5s in 0-100km/h.

Inspira 1.8 and Cruze 1.8 0-100km/h takes 11.5s too. Only lighter Civic 1.8 FD2 gets 10.2s but the Elantra 1.8 already beaten that record with 8.8s. Since there's Forte 2.0L expect better result.

Big event is close, if there's major change on management and policy, we should have the chance to get all 3 variants for Forte 1.6L, 1.8L and 2.0L like Altis 1.6L, 1.8L and 2.0L. If no change on management after big event, they'll bring in only 1 type of engine for Forte like Optima, Sportage and Sorento. If they intended to bring in Rio 1.6 sedan, then the Forte will be either 1.8L or 2.0L, most likely 1.8L so that it won't clash with Rio 1.6L and Optima 2.0L.

NASA waiting for money to fall from sky attitude actually killed the Forte 2.0 due to no test unit at all. Then they jumped to conclusion Forte 2.0 can't sell and from what I know, they employ young ciku that turned deaf ears on their sales people and us. Only makan gaji buta, so this is what happen.

Rumored that Korean carmakers Hyundai-Kia, conti carmakers Ford, VW, Pug-Citroen, and Japanese carmaker Mazda, Nissan (not N-brand) are considering setting up their big scale plants here after big event especially under new management & favourable new automotive policy (follow appropriate tax rate) introduced. We'll be fighting Thailand for automotive hub title especially we are more strategically located, able to provide more skilled workers and less communication barrier (we are more willing to lean their language & culture).

At the meantime, all car companies are holding back their plans due to big event, we'll know what car bring in after new policy introduced. If no change on management after big event, they'll bring in Forte 1.8 and we can forget about 2.0L. 1 engine variant only under NASA policy. Check the bunch in their marketing team and you'll know why. >> Don't know how to market cars with 2 different engine sizes and their turned deaf ears on customers and their very own salesmen feedback attitude. Totally don't know about cars yet don't want to know. Gaji buta yes please.

Some carmakers already have assembly plants in Thai but several segments missing due to less demand for certain segment in Thailand. Their focus there mostly on pickup trucks, less pleasure cars with simple maintenance. That explains why S-Max, C-Max, Mondeo don't have CKD in Thai. Same goes to Mazda, no Mazda6 at all. Thai carbuyers mentality is basic, simple, cheap, affordable. Camry yes, other D-segments not so. Conti, not at all. Pickup trucks, vans and special for 3rd nation alternative sub-standard model, yes. Same goes to Indonesia, Philippines & indo-China. Carmakers still looking for hub for wider scope covering both ASEAN & Down Under leaving us as the only option should car price follow global value.

>> Management could lose the RM7billion tax revenue from us but in return could get Multiplied times much more billions from expanding business and investment from locals & foreign - total win-win solution.

drive kia dunno where to hide face

got ur drift? lol...
about the rebadge factor plus some other factors that i did tell my colleague when he got his forte, but been few years, nothing comes true, where by big discount to clear old stock pun tak ada, i quite paise also. lol

Those citra and ria were very long time ago, 2003?
after that did they do the same thing? Sportage, Sorento, old optima? I believe that the planning department head been slah away, if they rebadge and ckd, they need the volume to commit to kia korea, based on their sales, the volume is not there, plus if commit ckd and rebadge halfway, what i can say is suicide. Haha.

Btw, what we talk now also just predicton, none of it come true yet, i waiting on it also...

About kah motor case, as i work with honda malaysia and honda dealers, knew those tactic d.
If one day u are the manufacturer, and u wanna get rid off a distributor, there's a very easy plus effective way. Hehe...

Please check again my comment. I meant the Sylphy, not the Focus. Also check my latest reply to jolokia and you will understand how they could throw CRA2Y discount to those substandard products they CKD here. The cost of Sylphy is way lower and they set selling price higher than Focus. This is what I meant.

Other brands that bring in CBU from Thai, they won't be able to throw CRA2Y discount like those bunch do due to higher base cost. Even if there is discount, that applies only when there is stock clearance for make/model that is phasing out for new replacement. That is only because the royalty sales from Carmaker reduced. 

Those N-brand bunch that mess around here kept saying Toyota, Ford, Mazda, Hyundai-Kia, etc are throwing high discount like mad which is not true at all when checked with actual salesman at showroom. So I post this to counter their false claim. They wanted to bring in cost cutting substandard products selling at quality car price, now they can't sell due to better competitor products, so they resort to unethical business strategy including spreading fake FC reading and false claim on other brands that are doing well. As consumer, we must not let them do things unethically that cheat buyers.

What makes you think that car with material cost of RM6-7k is Almera? Thing is, it is not Almera. Almera passed US safety rating but not with flying colour. Only certain C-segment and mostly D-segment onwards could get flying colours in safety rating. Get your facts right. If you check properly, your Sylphy cost quite cheap, only slightly higher than Latio 1.8 in production cost. You sell at RM107k also earn big already.

Lavina, Teana & Sylphy never screened through US/EU safety rating. China crash test, they are known to be corrupt, how much can you trust them? Japan crash test, they don't even have roads to get into serious accident and also, their standard is not even comparable to US/EU safety standard.

Which part said I am your colleague? Only you with N-brand and it was your technical staff that complained that you bunch are nothing more than irresponsible thrash to the company that spent most of the cash. Revenge? You can't even compete with any of the technical staff as they know more than you bunch and they could do more than you bunch. You bunch don't care about the buyers, only bring in lowest cost cheap alternative that is not meant for global market and sell them at quality Japanese car price to earn max profit. Those who bought your crappy products will have to pay the cost and bear the loss dearly.

stix,
Don't post lies here. I've been to showrooms lately to check pricing. No discount on Toyota, Honda, Ford, Mazda, Hyundai and Kia unless you are referring to models that are phasing out such as Vios as the new Vios 2013 is coming. Or are you trying to say the new CKD Mazda CX5 reduced price due to less tax as discount? That is because they get CKD status, not discount. Only N-brand would throw CRA2Y discount for their low cost cars with less tax and they could earn more by selling at Japanese quality car price range.

Are you for certain that the China crash test is corrupt? How do you know for sure? Their standards aren't as strict yet but they are slowly raising the bar to match EuroNCAP. Not only do they not gain anything by cheating, it will reflect badly on them when the same cars sent to Europe for sale do badly in the EuroNCAP.

Don't be so quick to judge, the China owned MG is largely built in China before final assembly in UK, it scored 4 stars on the EuroNCAP. And so did the Geely Emgrand EC7, which was the first Chinese designed and produced car to do so. Let's not forget, there are a few Chinese made cars that achieved 3 star ANCAP status down in Australia. Don't tell me you're going to say that's not credible as well?

Salesman here, you don't even know whether they are genuine in the first place. So you are trying to say the few real face to face SAs at showrooms are not giving correct details? Is that what you mean? How do you explain the various SAs at different showrooms example Ford giving the same answer, no discount?  My friends and I aren't rookies when come to buying cars. We even have experience dealing with used car dealers that are known to con buyers that try to hide flaws and set higher than market value markup. They can't fool technical staff when comes to car technical and accident free.

WoW, Camry 2.5 selling RM 117k?

Altis 2.0 selling RM 82k?

Give me the salesman number

I want book 10 each 

So you are saying you only rely on google sos for information? Since you said the google sos is more reliable than direct information from Technical in respective companies, how come you never posted anything related to indepth car talk all these while? Only pester around and replied without any technical information, facts and close to actual reading/measurement/result? Even TROLL could post more information than that. Rather than you judge others, what do you think others judge on your empty comment instead? So what is interior width of SYlphy, Altis, Civic, Forte? Find me the answer now, can you?
stix,
Aren't you having Jeremy Clarkson as your avatar? At least Jeremy Clarkson being straight forward and honest in giving car review. Do you? Those price list you got there does not represent peninsular mainland pricing. Camry so cheap? Old Camry '11 stock that was phased out and replaced by Camry 2012 is it? Can we buy that in KL? You wanted to spread lies, do it nicely. Rather than you judge everything, why not you let others be the judge and see what they say about your price list. The few already replied, Langkawi or Labuan tax free car price?