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 Kia K3 aka Kia Forte 2013 !, look naise

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post May 27 2013, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 25 2013, 11:46 PM)
They perceived the K3 1.6 a dangerous threat to Inspira 2.0L RM93k. If they let K3 1.6 priced at RM94k-RM96k, do you think people will want to buy Inspira? Though based on Lancer, both the Inspira & Lancer are beginning to feel dated. Today, people are coming up with dual VVT, 6AT conventional gearbox that is more responsive and thanks to lockup convertor & dual clutch, shifting gears no longer jerky. FC wise, Inspira 2.0L at 8.8km/L to 9km/L is not better than Forte 2.0 in city & highway.

Forte 1.6L with 6AT 0-100km/h in 11.5s
Forte 2.0L with 6AT 0-100km/h in 9.8s
Inspira 1.8 with CVT 0-100km/h in 11.5s
Inspira 2.0 with CVT 0-100km/h in 10.5s

Forte handling with VSC allowing it to turn at higher speed. Only weakness in its torsion beam is when going over uneven roads, if left side uneven and shaky, it'll affect the right. Multi-link only left side while the right will not be affected.

Cerato with more aerodynamic design and more conti-feel is posing higher threat than the old Forte introduced here before Inspira exist. Elantra 1.6 is proven a threat to Inspira, they will not want Cerato K3 to get more slice out of Inspira sales pie chart. Both Elantra MD and Cerato K3 have dual CVVT and they get 1km/L better than Forte.

Mitsu Mirage is powerd by low performance weaker than Myvi engine. That is how it passed the protection pricing. The same goes to Almera, P1 finds it an inferior goods and don't think it could affect Preve sales. Quality B-segment too are forced to set pricing no cheaper than Inspira lowest spec. That explains why Sonic and Rio 1.6 if introduced here will be forced to price at RM90k.
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Even the 1.6 K3 is more feature pack than inspira 2.0. The price should always be higher than Inspira.
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post May 27 2013, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ May 25 2013, 11:46 PM)
They perceived the K3 1.6 a dangerous threat to Inspira 2.0L RM93k. If they let K3 1.6 priced at RM94k-RM96k, do you think people will want to buy Inspira? Though based on Lancer, both the Inspira & Lancer are beginning to feel dated. Today, people are coming up with dual VVT, 6AT conventional gearbox that is more responsive and thanks to lockup convertor & dual clutch, shifting gears no longer jerky. FC wise, Inspira 2.0L at 8.8km/L to 9km/L is not better than Forte 2.0 in city & highway.

Forte 1.6L with 6AT 0-100km/h in 11.5s
Forte 2.0L with 6AT 0-100km/h in 9.8s
Inspira 1.8 with CVT 0-100km/h in 11.5s
Inspira 2.0 with CVT 0-100km/h in 10.5s

Forte handling with VSC allowing it to turn at higher speed. Only weakness in its torsion beam is when going over uneven roads, if left side uneven and shaky, it'll affect the right. Multi-link only left side while the right will not be affected.

Cerato with more aerodynamic design and more conti-feel is posing higher threat than the old Forte introduced here before Inspira exist. Elantra 1.6 is proven a threat to Inspira, they will not want Cerato K3 to get more slice out of Inspira sales pie chart. Both Elantra MD and Cerato K3 have dual CVVT and they get 1km/L better than Forte.

Mitsu Mirage is powerd by low performance weaker than Myvi engine. That is how it passed the protection pricing. The same goes to Almera, P1 finds it an inferior goods and don't think it could affect Preve sales. Quality B-segment too are forced to set pricing no cheaper than Inspira lowest spec. That explains why Sonic and Rio 1.6 if introduced here will be forced to price at RM90k.
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The way the new Cerato is bring priced is not primarily influenced by its position against the national models. To a certain degree, yes, maybe. But the truth is, the cost of having all the SPECS in this car has gone up and there is no way to sell it at sub 90K or even between 90-95K.

At this moment, there is no news that Naza would offer an EX or a lower spec model for Malaysian market. But if there is one, would any of you buy if it is price at say 88-89K, without many of the features found in the SX?
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post May 27 2013, 03:03 PM

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QUOTE(westcoastbay @ May 26 2013, 11:56 AM)
In SG and AUS, current Forte has the word Cerato.

Why Cerato name was dropped here initially?
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The name Cerato had been in use in certain oversea markets, for as long as I can remember. It was even used pm models which were otherwise known as Spectra in our market, so it is not new.

When Kia dropped the Spectra name about 5 years ago, it continued with Cerato and Forte, much like Optima and Magentis and Rondo vs Carens. Yes, SG decided to combine it and name theirs Cerato Forte instead.

My guess is that there is a need for differentiation against the current selling model - Forte, as it would continue to be sold, at least for a while. I would personally prefer it named as Forte K3, just like naming convention of the Optima K5, but then again, I don't call the shots. biggrin.gif
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post May 27 2013, 03:03 PM

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sexy. Korean car getting better in terms of built quality and outlook!
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post May 27 2013, 03:15 PM

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2 disappointments for me so far:

1. No blue colour option doh.gif
2. 2.0 pricing is 120K+- sad.gif

what about u guys?
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post May 27 2013, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(achol77 @ May 27 2013, 01:33 PM)
Can anyone leak the specs? What are the difference between 1.6 & 2.0?
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Actually, apart from the engine, there is no much difference between 1.6 and 2.0.
The additional specs found in the 2.0 are as follows:

1) Lip spoiler
2) Electronic Sunroof
3) 4.2 Inch TFT LCD color on instrument cluster. 1.6 one is dot matrix black & white.
4) Leather seat.
5) Air-ventilated seats.
6) HID head lights

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post May 27 2013, 03:43 PM

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The engine is MPI or GDI?
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QUOTE(kailord @ May 27 2013, 03:43 PM)
The engine is MPI or GDI?
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1.6 Gamma MPI, max power 130 ps
2.0 Nu MPI, max power 161 ps.
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post May 27 2013, 05:46 PM

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no GDI and cost 120K? KIA suppose to be a cheap brand
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post May 27 2013, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ May 27 2013, 03:40 PM)
Actually, apart from the engine, there is no much difference between 1.6 and 2.0.
The additional specs found in the 2.0 are as follows:

1) Lip spoiler
2) Electronic Sunroof
3) 4.2 Inch TFT LCD color on instrument cluster. 1.6 one is dot matrix black & white.
4) Leather seat.
5) Air-ventilated seats.
6) HID head lights
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Ventilated seats for driver and front passenger? Or just the driver?
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post May 27 2013, 06:20 PM

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QUOTE(Nabeyl @ May 27 2013, 03:15 PM)
2 disappointments for me so far:

1. No blue colour option  doh.gif
2. 2.0 pricing is 120K+-  sad.gif

what about u guys?
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1. No Black shakehead.gif
2. same as yours ... sweat.gif
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post May 27 2013, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(achol77 @ May 27 2013, 01:29 PM)
I like this attitude. Buy car to please yourself and not for anyone else.

Those who think otherwise, ask yourself.....isn't other enjoyment cost money also???!!!
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post May 27 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Motorman @ May 20 2013, 05:41 PM)
Hi, to all interested in Kia Cerato K3. Pack with high safety standard and features.
Here are some of the features! Check them out!!  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

Come in 2 specs. 1.6L & 2.0L

Here are some of the important features for both 1.6 & 2.0:
1) Rear Aircon vent
2) Memory Seat
3) Front & rear sensor
4) Flex Steering
5) 4.3" TFT Screen
6) Puddle Lamp
7) Pocket lighting
8) 17" Alloy Rim
9) Dual Zone aircon
10) Hid head lamp
11) Auto Cruice
12) Paddle Shift
13) Smart Key.
!4) rear camera

Extras in the 2.0L
1) Sun Roof
2) Air ventilated seat
3) Lid Spoiler
4) Leather Seat
QUOTE(Buydirect @ May 27 2013, 03:40 PM)
Actually, apart from the engine, there is no much difference between 1.6 and 2.0.
The additional specs found in the 2.0 are as follows:

1) Lip spoiler
2) Electronic Sunroof
3) 4.2 Inch TFT LCD color on instrument cluster. 1.6 one is dot matrix black & white.
4) Leather seat.
5) Air-ventilated seats.
6) HID head lights
HID head lights/lamp
Both are the same or on the 2.0L is the one that provides extra vision on side? (when car turns)
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post May 27 2013, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(silentsunami @ May 27 2013, 05:46 PM)
no GDI and cost 120K? KIA suppose to be a cheap brand
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not anymore.. u want cheap ..stick wif proton/perodua
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post May 27 2013, 11:47 PM

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Hi Want to ask, for 2.0 Model got GPS or not, because currently in dilemma to choose this or Civic Navi. But I like Cerato design more
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post May 28 2013, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(AMLAN @ May 27 2013, 11:47 PM)
Hi Want to ask, for 2.0 Model got GPS or not, because currently in dilemma to choose this or Civic Navi. But I like Cerato design more
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both of spec dont come with GPS , my advise - dont because of GPS you choose the car as GPS is very cheap it market . it maybe cost you Rm300++
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QUOTE(digitheatre @ May 27 2013, 11:42 PM)
not anymore.. u want cheap ..stick wif proton/perodua
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post May 28 2013, 09:21 AM

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QUOTE(AMLAN @ May 27 2013, 11:47 PM)
Hi Want to ask, for 2.0 Model got GPS or not, because currently in dilemma to choose this or Civic Navi. But I like Cerato design more
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IMHO buy portable GPS unit. Can use for other cars, cheaper & easier to update. Buy KIA ....Honda cheat people. So pricey but Korean built quality better .....not to mention the spec. The only sad thing is that in this Bolehland, people still go for T & H for resale value which still baffles me.

In the end you should enjoy your own ride, not look at others who have K3 and envy them later on smile.gif
If you still want Honda Civic go without the GPS also, not worth the extra 5k right?

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post May 28 2013, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ May 27 2013, 11:15 PM)
HID head lights/lamp
Both are the same or on the 2.0L is the one that provides extra vision on side? (when car turns)
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NAZA should make the exterior much more different between 1.6 & 2.0 since all the interior specs are the same. For the additional 20k, it will be hard to sell if only the lip spoiler mark the difference. Like focus, HID lights should be only available in 2.0
Color options also should be more sportier for 2.0 e.g. blue & red. Then it can sell.

In any case, sad if the new price is true since it is way much expensive now and competes with Elantra 1.8.

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Price shouldn't increase due to new features as the price remain the same when cerato replace K2, in USA, Europe, ....
If price increase it's just naza trying to earn more profit using msia concept, if i add new features, then u pay more, but then these features will be standard in cars in future..


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